Why is my header glowing orange//////

hockey · August 16th, 2009, 12:13 AM

I just installed a ranger header and a roller cam . now the header is glowing orange? lol is this cam timing or maybe something else??
i thought i had it installed right quess not any ideas ?
i'll investigate more tommorow.

Tapeuup · August 16th, 2009, 12:16 AM

it's hot

mustanginky · August 16th, 2009, 12:48 AM

running rich could cause it, unburned fuel gets hot in the headers. or ignition timing being off, too retarted if i'm not mistaken.

hockey · August 16th, 2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Tapeuup

it's hot

Really, gee thats helpful!!!!!!!!!,wish I would have thought of that ?!??!?!?!

C MY 4D · August 16th, 2009, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by mustanginky

running rich could cause it, unburned fuel gets hot in the headers. or ignition timing being off, too retarted if i'm not mistaken.

+1 it is either missing, has a fuel issue or the timing is way off.

89Domindart · August 17th, 2009, 05:24 PM

I also believe it too be hot.

t70 · August 17th, 2009, 05:26 PM

dont touch it !!!!

t70 · August 17th, 2009, 05:28 PM

actually it may have been getting that hot before but the old cast iron manifold wouldn't have shown it like a steel header will make sure your timing is right and your getting enough fuel. and your catalytic (sp) converter may be plugged up

winch · August 17th, 2009, 06:03 PM

My experiences -a valve was sticking open. Bad news was they didn't last long afterwards

hockey · August 17th, 2009, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by t70

actually it may have been getting that hot before but the old cast iron manifold wouldn't have shown it like a steel header will make sure your timing is right and your getting enough fuel. and your catalytic (sp) converter may be plugged up

i don't have cats. I don't have an exhaust right now about 12 inches of pipe out of the header. the 02 sensor is half way of that pipe. while i was driving it smelled like it was runing rich?? timing is the same as it was when i was driving it . cam timimg is my concern ,thats the only thing thats changed, whats the best way to degree the cam in one of these engines/
AND YES I KNOW IT'S HOT AND NOT TO TOUCH IT THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONCERN AND FOR FOR MY SAFETY .ENOuGH WITH THAT

thanks for technical help guys, really need it !!!

mustanginky · August 17th, 2009, 11:45 PM

like we said, check timing and if you have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator it'll help alot to determine the issue. i'm betting timing is off and you're running too much fuel, or your timing is off enough to cause your fuel to burn in the exhaust pipe and not in the combustion chamber.

RHecox · August 18th, 2009, 12:12 AM

usually its a lean condition. Changing the cam allows more air in the engine and a header allows more air out. Lean.

Tune it.

hockey · August 18th, 2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by RHecox

usually its a lean condition. Changing the cam allows more air in the engine and a header allows more air out. Lean.

Tune it.

tune it ???? how do i do that ?? yes header allows more air out -cam lets it in.
thats why i changed both at the same time
my quess is that i got the cam timing off keeping the exhaust valves open longer that they should!!! i got to get an adjustable cam gear any one got one laying around for sell?!?!?!!?
any way thanks for the help .

Safi · August 19th, 2009, 01:03 AM

I think its because your headers are getting really hot...You should probably not touch them bro

hockey · August 19th, 2009, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by commandersafi

I think its because your headers are getting really hot...You should probably not touch them bro

I'm not your bro!!!!!!!!! and stop being dumb if you don't have anything useful to say then just go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M L Struck · September 4th, 2009, 09:07 AM

[QUOTE=RHecox;2254735]usually its a lean condition. Changing the cam allows more air in the engine and a header allows more air out. Lean.

+1

It is not rich, the timing is advanced and it could use some more fuel I'm sure

Tapeuup · September 4th, 2009, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by hockey

I'm not your bro!!!!!!!!! and stop being dumb if you don't have anything useful to say then just go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what a

minus the

GTsetGO · September 4th, 2009, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by mustanginky

running rich could cause it, unburned fuel gets hot in the headers. or ignition timing being off, too retarted if i'm not mistaken.

that's not nice. you don't even konw the guy.

hockey · September 5th, 2009, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Tapeuup

what a minus the

can you read!!!!!!!!!!!!!- didn't think soooo

G.T. Rags · September 5th, 2009, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by hockey

I just installed a ranger header and a roller cam . now the header is glowing orange? lol is this cam timing or maybe something else??
i thought i had it installed right quess not any ideas ?
i'll investigate more tommorow.

i wanna see it glowing

August 16th, 2009, 12:13 AM	#1
hockey Regular 1990 LX 2.3 Mustang under construction Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gordon Ga. Posts: 80 iTrader: 0 reviews	Why is my header glowing orange////// I just installed a ranger header and a roller cam . now the header is glowing orange? lol is this cam timing or maybe something else?? i thought i had it installed right quess not any ideas ? i'll investigate more tommorow.

August 16th, 2009, 12:16 AM	#2
Tapeuup Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 55 iTrader: 0 reviews	it's hot __________________ If Tape can't fix it, it ain't broke LOOK my tag is showing

August 16th, 2009, 12:48 AM	#3
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 4,247 iTrader: 2 reviews	running rich could cause it, unburned fuel gets hot in the headers. or ignition timing being off, too retarted if i'm not mistaken. __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

August 17th, 2009, 05:24 PM	#6
89Domindart Enthusiast 89mustanglx5.0 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: smyrna ga Posts: 846 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 0 reviews	I also believe it too be hot. __________________ looking for a mustang again.!

August 17th, 2009, 05:26 PM	#7
t70 Regular 2000 GT CONVERTIBLE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ILLINOIS Posts: 208 iTrader: 0 reviews	dont touch it !!!! __________________ silvermustangsregistry#0711

August 17th, 2009, 05:28 PM	#8
t70 Regular 2000 GT CONVERTIBLE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ILLINOIS Posts: 208 iTrader: 0 reviews	actually it may have been getting that hot before but the old cast iron manifold wouldn't have shown it like a steel header will make sure your timing is right and your getting enough fuel. and your catalytic (sp) converter may be plugged up __________________ silvermustangsregistry#0711

August 17th, 2009, 06:03 PM	#9
winch Newbie 2008 v6 5 speed Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: moline Il Posts: 12 iTrader: 0 reviews	My experiences -a valve was sticking open. Bad news was they didn't last long afterwards

August 17th, 2009, 11:45 PM	#11
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 4,247 iTrader: 2 reviews	like we said, check timing and if you have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator it'll help alot to determine the issue. i'm betting timing is off and you're running too much fuel, or your timing is off enough to cause your fuel to burn in the exhaust pipe and not in the combustion chamber. __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

August 18th, 2009, 12:12 AM	#12
RHecox Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 reviews	usually its a lean condition. Changing the cam allows more air in the engine and a header allows more air out. Lean. Tune it.

September 4th, 2009, 09:07 AM	#16
M L Struck Hardcore Enthusiast 85 GT/86 SVO/2010 GT500 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rossville IN Posts: 1,183 iTrader: 0 reviews	[QUOTE=RHecox;2254735]usually its a lean condition. Changing the cam allows more air in the engine and a header allows more air out. Lean. +1 It is not rich, the timing is advanced and it could use some more fuel I'm sure __________________ "Having a 9 second neon is like coming out of the closet, everyone is shocked at first, but in the end you're still gay." 5.4 Shelby Crew member #1

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