[fredstar]

ok, sooo, you guys may have read some of my imature, inexperienced threads, but now my knoledge has grown, but i just cant be too sure for whats about to happen, my uncle recently blew the 2.3t engine i built, put about 800 in rebuilding the thing, and at least 1000 on everything else from turbos and all, well, guess what, he got arrested, again, so he gave me the car back. Now i have this beautiful 1988 conv mustang sitting in the garage, my buddy sold my dad a lincoln mark 7, and i was thinking, hmmm, why not upgrade to the 5.0, basically, will the mark 7 be a good donor car? will everything from the mounts to transmission, be interchangable, 5.0 donors are extremely scarce, ive been searching on CL's Ebay, local treasureyards, nothing, so how about it? who wants to be part of? help is always apriciated,

[OHC230]

So Fred, if I understand you correctly, you are thinking of swapping the Lincoln V-8 for the 2.3?

Just out of curiosity what happened to the 2.3? It might be easier to fix that, rather than doing a complete swap.

If I remember correctly the motor mounts are similar between the Lincoln and the Mustang 5.0, I am fairly sure they will work. Most of the swap should be a straight forward deal.

[fredstar]

Originally Posted by OHC230 So Fred, if I understand you correctly, you are thinking of swapping the Lincoln V-8 for the 2.3? Just out of curiosity what happened to the 2.3? It might be easier to fix that, rather than doing a complete swap. If I remember correctly the motor mounts are similar between the Lincoln and the Mustang 5.0, I am fairly sure they will work. Most of the swap should be a straight forward deal.

dude, you should be admin or something, your always the first to help out, and the 2.3t, idk, he grinded up the crankshaft, poped a piston up threw the top, and alot of water damage, my dad just wants me to sell everything that was salvaged, i still have all the parts from the turbo, the motor is shot, 2 piston rods not including the one that went through the top, were cracked in half basically, i told my dad it would be a good idea to do another build, but he doesnt want me with that car anyways, he says its to fast for a pony,(4 banger) and i know he was a little upset i beat his time in a 4banger vs his 5.6 windsor, but yeah, the mark7 to 2.3, im pretty sure its straight swap, computer, wire harness, mounts, dont need the tranny, but i'll pull it anyway, and what rear if you know does the mark 7 have? 8.8?

[TaterTodd]

Originally Posted by 1slo5.0 - 1994-1998 Mustang rear axles are 3/4" wider on each side than a 79-93 Mustang. - 1999 and newer Mustang rear axles are about 1 7/16" wider on each side than a 79-93 Mustang - Lincoln Mark7 LSC, SVO Mustang and Fox Body Saleens use a rear axle that is 1.25" wider per side than the 87-93 Mustangs.

I found this looking through this site .. it seems the most accurate of all the info I searched through ... hope it helps

[RDY4WAR]

The motor mounts from the Lincoln will not be the same for the Mustang. They use a different K member, therefore, different mounts.

Honestly, I say fix the 2.3T motor. It's lighter and makes about the same power.

[OHC230]

The motor mounts from the Lincoln will not be the same for the Mustang. They use a different K member, therefore, different mounts.

There might be some variations on the mount I guess, but I have taken Mustang mounts off of the parts shelf and stuck them in a MK 7 late one night to get a customers car back to them, I couldn't tell the difference.

When I look up part numbers online they come up with matching numbers as well. Maybe only one side fits?

Here's what I pulled of the internet just a minute ago

Westar Engine Mount
Your Price: $20.83

Part Number: 5640-05078694
Notes: Westar Industries, Inc. Engine Mount Mount-Engine(Lh Front) Std Suspension; LH Front
•
1984-1992Lincoln Mark VII Base 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS
•
1984-92 Lincoln Mark VII Bill Blass 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS
•
1984-92 Lincoln Mark VII LSC 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS

Part Number: 5640-05078694
This Product Fits the Following: Catalog: Replacement 2
Vehicle Sub Model Engine
•
1992 Ford Mustang GT 5.0L V8 VIN: E FI Naturally Aspirated GAS
•
1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0L V8 VIN: E FI Naturally Aspirated GAS

Same part numbers, but located on different pages.......Well now I'm confused??

Can somebody enlighten us on this one, I am at a loss here?


Honestly, I say fix the 2.3T motor. It's lighter and makes about the same power.

Yeah, I really have to agree with smithboy on this one. Engine swaps are a lot of work and you might be able to salvage a lot of parts from the 2.3 and save some money. Just my 2 cents.

[ocejo]

what edition mark is it?

the lsc had the 5.0 HO and rear discs, I'm not completely sure, but I think they are 5lug

[RDY4WAR]

Originally Posted by OHC230 The motor mounts from the Lincoln will not be the same for the Mustang. They use a different K member, therefore, different mounts. There might be some variations on the mount I guess, but I have taken Mustang mounts off of the parts shelf and stuck them in a MK 7 late one night to get a customers car back to them, I couldn't tell the difference. When I look up part numbers online they come up with matching numbers as well. Maybe only one side fits? Here's what I pulled of the internet just a minute ago Westar Engine Mount Your Price: $20.83 Part Number: 5640-05078694 Notes: Westar Industries, Inc. Engine Mount Mount-Engine(Lh Front) Std Suspension; LH Front • 1984-1992Lincoln Mark VII Base 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS • 1984-92 Lincoln Mark VII Bill Blass 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS • 1984-92 Lincoln Mark VII LSC 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS Part Number: 5640-05078694 This Product Fits the Following: Catalog: Replacement 2 Vehicle Sub Model Engine • 1992 Ford Mustang GT 5.0L V8 VIN: E FI Naturally Aspirated GAS • 1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0L V8 VIN: E FI Naturally Aspirated GAS Same part numbers, but located on different pages.......Well now I'm confused?? Can somebody enlighten us on this one, I am at a loss here? Honestly, I say fix the 2.3T motor. It's lighter and makes about the same power. Yeah, I really have to agree with smithboy on this one. Engine swaps are a lot of work and you might be able to salvage a lot of parts from the 2.3 and save some money. Just my 2 cents.

Interesting. I had motor mounts from a '89 Mark that were way off when matched to the K member in my '93 Stang. I pulled them from a junkyard where someone took the 5.0 and left the mounts sitting there in the engine bay. I ended up just buying aftermarket solid motor mounts.

[fredstar]

Originally Posted by TaterTodd I found this looking through this site .. it seems the most accurate of all the info I searched through ... hope it helps

thanks bro, every piece of info helps, expecially when now if i understand correctly, i dont need to change the rear, which i am anyways,

[fredstar]

Originally Posted by smithboy76908 The motor mounts from the Lincoln will not be the same for the Mustang. They use a different K member, therefore, different mounts. Honestly, I say fix the 2.3T motor. It's lighter and makes about the same power.

but the mounts wouldnt be a problem if say, i had some sitting in my garage right?, i just need to change the mounts, not the actual mount thts in the car, or on the motor, easy fix, and the 2.3t we are gonna build, but were putting it in a 85 gt my dad had sitting in the scrap yard, then selling that, ima miss the 2.3t, but a twin turbo v8 sounds kinda spiffy dont cha think

[fredstar]

Originally Posted by OHC230 The motor mounts from the Lincoln will not be the same for the Mustang. They use a different K member, therefore, different mounts. There might be some variations on the mount I guess, but I have taken Mustang mounts off of the parts shelf and stuck them in a MK 7 late one night to get a customers car back to them, I couldn't tell the difference. When I look up part numbers online they come up with matching numbers as well. Maybe only one side fits? Here's what I pulled of the internet just a minute ago Westar Engine Mount Your Price: $20.83 Part Number: 5640-05078694 Notes: Westar Industries, Inc. Engine Mount Mount-Engine(Lh Front) Std Suspension; LH Front • 1984-1992Lincoln Mark VII Base 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS • 1984-92 Lincoln Mark VII Bill Blass 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS • 1984-92 Lincoln Mark VII LSC 5.0L V8 VIN: F FI Naturally Aspirated GAS Part Number: 5640-05078694 This Product Fits the Following: Catalog: Replacement 2 Vehicle Sub Model Engine • 1992 Ford Mustang GT 5.0L V8 VIN: E FI Naturally Aspirated GAS • 1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0L V8 VIN: E FI Naturally Aspirated GAS Same part numbers, but located on different pages.......Well now I'm confused?? Can somebody enlighten us on this one, I am at a loss here? Honestly, I say fix the 2.3T motor. It's lighter and makes about the same power. Yeah, I really have to agree with smithboy on this one. Engine swaps are a lot of work and you might be able to salvage a lot of parts from the 2.3 and save some money. Just my 2 cents.

i see where both of you are comming from, i know i can juice the 2.3t to the same power has a v8, but not really, see, its easier and "safer" to get that kind of power with the v8, then with the 4 banger, but another prodject is on its way, the 2.3t shall be revived, just in a 85gt, i totally get you guys, but its just a hobbie of mine and my fathers, thanks, and hopfully, i get modded mustangs to send me some decals for the stang, that'll be awesome!!

[OHC230]

Hey Fred, either way you should end up with a nice ride.

[fredstar]

Originally Posted by OHC230 Hey Fred, either way you should end up with a nice ride.

oohhh, kaaaayyyy, ppl, its official, ima rebuild the 2.3t, paps (my dad) finally took it apart and good news, the engine block isnt cracked, and 1 piston rod was demolished, but the other 3 are good, also, just need to replace the crank also, and im good to go, now the question is if the compression's gonna be off, we'll know nexts week, dad sold the mark 7, so i have no v8 for the swap, thanks again fellas, i'll keep you guys posted,

[RDY4WAR]

^My advice would be to replace all 4 rods. You don't want any inbalance that could come from having 3 used rods and 1 new one. I'd replace all 4 rods, new rod and main cap bearings, and probably even new piston rings.

[OHC230]

^My advice would be to replace all 4 rods.
+1

ARP rod bolts are cheap insurance for you. Highly recommended.