[87fourbanger]

hey every one my name is juan and im new to this. i got a 4 cylinder mustang n/a w a t5 speed manual trany. got it of some old guys backyard for 400. it runs good but i wana make it into a beast. im wana make as fast as possinble before before putting a turbo on it. i got an cone filter on it w a crome pipe so far lol but im willing to put anykinds of money in this bby! im open to any ides please

[87fourbanger]

excuse the bad gramar lol

[TurboLX]

Dont waste your money on the n/a motor. Pick up a turbo coupe motor or xr4ti motor, (2.3 turbo) for about $300 and drop it on. 205hp stock, boost controller, 3" downpipe, front mount and a 255lph fuel pump and your about 250-275hp. go from the 12-15psi stock to about 20-22psi. nice little daily street terror. and all for under $500

[87fourbanger]

COol! THanks I was thinking of just getting the forged pistons on the same engine. ISN't about the only difference between the turbo mustang?

[OHC230]

COol! THanks I was thinking of just getting the forged pistons on the same engine.

You could do that as well and do some machine work to the head while the engine is apart.

ISN't (that) about the only difference between the turbo mustang?

The valve material is different in a turbo engine and there is a hole drilled and tapped into the engine block for the turbo oil drain line.

[87fourbanger]

Will the head work for the oil feed and Valves cost allot?

My left motor mount broke today lol I need to buy that tmrw.. I got my car new shocks Cus I can't drive w more than three people in the car with out the tires hitting the body. Every time I drive over a roadhump like at walmart my drive shaft gets hit.. now the tranny shakes at certain speeds.. any one know what happened ?

[87fourbanger]

Will the head work for the oil feed and Valves cost allot?

My left motor mount broke today lol I need to buy that tmrw.. I got my car new shocks Cus I can't drive w more than three people in the car with out the tires hitting the body. Every time I drive over a roadhump like at walmart my drive shaft gets hit.. now the tranny shakes at certain speeds.. any one know what happened ?

[OHC230]

It is possible that you bent the drive shaft. If you don't repair/replace this soon, it could do some damage to other parts.

Follow this link.

2.3 2300 FORD 1.89" 1.59" Stainless valves Mustang: eBay Motors (item 390243863813 end time Oct-03-10 17:49:02 PDT)

These are stainless steel, over-sized valves for the 2.3. Some machining of the head is required, to use these.

[87fourbanger]

Sweet ! Thanks for the like. I took pinky(my stang ) to a mechanic . WE raised the aas from behind and drove it or accelerated on 1st gear and saw the balance or balance was really off center. It's that cylinder part right after the tail end of the trans. IT wobbles allot

[87fourbanger]

THanks for the link*

[TurboLX]

The stock 2.3 turbo have oil returns in the block, the n/a motor does not. The 2.3t has forged dished pistons, the n/a does not. the 2.3 turbo have bigger combustion chambers on the head and the n/a does not. its a complete different motor from the n/a motor. Its pointless to turbo the n/a motor because you'll only be able to do up to 10psi. my old convertible stock bottom end 2.3t held 30psi no problem and spiked 33-34psi all day and never blew intill it leaned out and popped hahaha. best $200 i ever spent. its cheaper to swap it

[zonker]

Originally Posted by TurboLX The stock 2.3 turbo have oil returns in the block, the n/a motor does not. The 2.3t has forged dished pistons, the n/a does not. the 2.3 turbo have bigger combustion chambers on the head and the n/a does not. its a complete different motor from the n/a motor. Its pointless to turbo the n/a motor because you'll only be able to do up to 10psi. my old convertible stock bottom end 2.3t held 30psi no problem and spiked 33-34psi all day and never blew intill it leaned out and popped hahaha. best $200 i ever spent. its cheaper to swap it

true true - they're getting harder to find but a good turbo motor still can be found.

[OHC230]

its a complete different motor from the n/a motor

???

No disrespect intended, but cranks, rods and blocks are the same, with the exception of the oil drain hole which can be drilled and tapped, or you can run the return line directly into the oil pan, near the top of the pan rail.

A lot of junk yard turbo heads, are unfortunately cracked these days. Thermal loads and extreme heat cycles can really take their toll on a turbo motor. Lucky for us, many of the N/A heads can still be found un-cracked. N/A heads, which do in fact have a slightly smaller combustion chamber size (8-10 cc) make great donor heads for a turbo project. The compression change is roughly 4/tenths to ½ a point in compression, using factory forged dished pistons and is definitely in an acceptable range for a turbo engine. The slightly smaller chambers should in theory, result in a faster burn, due to the higher quench area offered (read smaller chamber). I have run both heads on turbo motors and they both perform equally well.

B]"Its pointless to turbo the n/a motor because you'll only be able to do up to 10psi."[/B]

TurboLX, again, No disrespect intended, I know that if one were to find a really nice donor car in the wrecking yard, maybe everything on it would be in good shape then 87fourbanger could just swap engines. I get that. But I peruse the wrecking yards out here in Cali frequently and I just don’t see a lot of usable stuff anymore. Exhaust manifolds are all most always cracked as are turbo exhaust housings and very often heads. And what good is an exchange warrantee if you can’t find another good replacement. If he wants to build a nice car and I am assuming he does, don’t you think he would be better off starting with a freshly re-built engine? Either way he has to pull the engine out of the car.

Anyway that's just my 2 cents.

[87fourbanger]

THanks guys for the tips. Today when I get out of work I might start changing my shocks first. I'M waiting on that motor mount to get here Cus no auto part here has it lol its hard down here for a four cyl to get any parts. WE only have one or too good treasure yards and all I have found is 8 cylinder lx cars. ONly seen one guy driving a 4 banger like mine.

[TurboLX]

Originally Posted by OHC230 its a complete different motor from the n/a motor ??? No disrespect intended, but cranks, rods and blocks are the same, with the exception of the oil drain hole which can be drilled and tapped, or you can run the return line directly into the oil pan, near the top of the pan rail. A lot of junk yard turbo heads, are unfortunately cracked these days. Thermal loads and extreme heat cycles can really take their toll on a turbo motor. Lucky for us, many of the N/A heads can still be found un-cracked. N/A heads, which do in fact have a slightly smaller combustion chamber size (8-10 cc) make great donor heads for a turbo project. The compression change is roughly 4/tenths to ½ a point in compression, using factory forged dished pistons and is definitely in an acceptable range for a turbo engine. The slightly smaller chambers should in theory, result in a faster burn, due to the higher quench area offered (read smaller chamber). I have run both heads on turbo motors and they both perform equally well. B]"Its pointless to turbo the n/a motor because you'll only be able to do up to 10psi."[/B] TurboLX, again, No disrespect intended, I know that if one were to find a really nice donor car in the wrecking yard, maybe everything on it would be in good shape then 87fourbanger could just swap engines. I get that. But I peruse the wrecking yards out here in Cali frequently and I just don’t see a lot of usable stuff anymore. Exhaust manifolds are all most always cracked as are turbo exhaust housings and very often heads. And what good is an exchange warrantee if you can’t find another good replacement. If he wants to build a nice car and I am assuming he does, don’t you think he would be better off starting with a freshly re-built engine? Either way he has to pull the engine out of the car. Anyway that's just my 2 cents.

If you re-read what i wrote before i mentioned what was different on the motors. i know whats what on them. But i know from experience not to turbo an n/a 2.3

And it is infact true about this stuff being harder and harder to find, but ive had pretty good luck in the local junk yards in newyork, its easy to come across xr7's, svo's, ghia's, GT's, xr4ti's, t-bird's especially. only bad thing i ever came across jy hunting was a cracked manifold and a warped head. on the same car. But i know for a fact it will be more money to do a fresh rebuild then it would be to swap a motor. if some things are bad, its not hard to find and replace, maybe cracked turbo housing? it would be the perfect time to allow growth in the motor. add some minor upgrades is all.

[87fourbanger]

ALright thanks I will keep every thing in mind.