[free2.3]

ok so every one wants a t-5 behind there 2.3 the problem is is the t5 thats behind the 2.3 are realy hard to find and when you find one there usually bad so what do you?

well Borg warner provided t5 from jeeps to 300zx so all you need is a 2wd t5 from a ford to turn your mushwang into an axel twister. heres a photo to help you understand



what youll need are some parts off a 2.3 t5 they are the bell housing(not shown) throw out bearing support part 57 and everything in between it and the input shaft or part 62 and the fork. the 4 cyl trans deos have a larger input bearing but i beleive the race bore is the same size. also make sure you have one with the correct speedo.

now that you know that make sure you get a world class t5 there stronger because it has tapered bearings supporting the cluster gear. 1st/2nd syncro rings are a 3-piece design, 3rd/4th are lined steel and 5th is brass. they are more plentiful and there in all 85 and later ford cars.

heres a link for a jeep t5 but it has a parts list includedhttp://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-tr...rner-t5.htm#29

[Cgross609]

Pic no worky.



And i think the reason why most people on these forums want a t-5, is because the A4LD is a waste of gas mileage. I wish i could get the 35 mpg that my buddy gets with his 5 speed 92 stang. I get around 20 on a good day with the auto...

[free2.3]

picy worky

[Cgross609]

Sure does now lol

[Cobraman1024]

ok, another question. one of the distinguishing features of a 2.3L T5 is the electrical connector (neutral safety switch?) on the top cover of the T5 pointed toward the drivers side. Using a T5 from a 3.8L mustang, that switch isn't there so how is that neutral safety switch (or that particular electrical function) incorporated when using a 3.8L T5 in a 2.3L mustang?

I ended up getting the 2.3L T5 from the junkyard but I think I'm going to go back there and exchange it for one of their 3.8L T5s. I didn't have time to pull another trans when I was there yesterday so I took what I could get lol.......

[ocejo]

man do you have great info free.....

[ocejo]

do you have a parts list for the exploded view?

[free2.3]

sorry no parts list but im sure i can identify any parts so ask away and as for the neutral safety switch just wire it together. it will turn over in all gears so if it wont start you can always starter power it were it needs to go.

[ocejo]

57-62, I'll be getting a t5 from a 5.0 that will be mated to a 5.0 in the future but if I can mate it to the 2.3 for cheap meanwhile I'll go for it

[free2.3]

57-throwout bearing support
58-retainer seal
59-spacer/shim
60-input bearing race
61-input bearing
62-input shaft

updated thread to include a parts list on first post

[ocejo]

nice!!

I was thinking that I'd also need the bell housing, pressure plate, etc......

[Cobraman1024]

Originally Posted by ocejo nice!! I was thinking that I'd also need the bell housing, pressure plate, etc......

The 2.3L clutch/flywheel is significantly smaller than the 5.0L clutch and flywheel, and the bellhousing/clutch fork for each are very different from each other also. The throwout bearing is the same across the line whether its for a 4-cylinder, v6 or v8 application.

[free2.3]

the 2.3 and 5.0 have the same throwout bearing but they do not have the same length bearing reatainer or else id have a hardened steel one on mine instead of the shitty aluminum one

[free2.3]

heres a link on this site were the guy even called the manufacturer of he steel retainers and they even said your SOL 2.3 t5 bearing retainer

[Cobraman1024]

Now for the driveshaft part of it. Apparently there are specific driveshafts for the 2.3L and the 5.0L. I'm thinking this is because of how the driveshaft itself is balanced; maybe to the rest of the drivetrain?

At the junkyard yesterday I found that a 94+ v6 driveshaft will work in the back of the a 2.3L T5 but it is a much larger diameter which means its heavier so no use in using that d/s. The length of a 94+ mustang d/s is very close to that of a 2.3L mustang d/s so no issues there.
This junkyard also had a crapload of ford Aerostar minivans. The significance of this is that these minivans use an aluminum driveshaft from the factory. The problem is that the inside diameter of the yoke is too small to fit onto the output shaft of the T5.
The other option is to completely luck out and find a 96/97 AWD Aerostar as the driveshaft from this van is a direct bolt on for the fox mustang.
Is it a direct swap to replace the front yoke from an Aerostar RWD aluminum driveshaft with one from a 94+ mustang d/s? I figure this is ridiculously more cost effective than buying a $260+ FRPP aluminum driveshaft. This driveshaft could also then be used with a V8 car too.

[free2.3]

ya i never thought of an aerostar d/s NICE

ya a drivline shop should be able to mod it for someone pretty cheap if the yoke just dont swap in

[ocejo]

well the 5.0 t5 didn't go through, but I got one from a 95 3.8. what all would I need to mate it to my 2.3. I also grabbed the driveshaft and crossmeber(don't know if it'll work yet)

[Cobraman1024]

Originally Posted by ocejo well the 5.0 t5 didn't go through, but I got one from a 95 3.8. what all would I need to mate it to my 2.3. I also grabbed the driveshaft and crossmeber(don't know if it'll work yet)

to get it to mate up to your '92 2.3L engine (assuming its still the 1992 2.3L and not an 87-90 year engine), you will need the input shaft and input bearing retainer from a 4 cylinder specific T5. You will also need a four cylinder pilot bearing (which will not fit over the input shaft of the 3.8L T5, this is why you need a 2.3L specific input shaft and bearing retainer not to mention that the 3.8L shaft and input bearing retainer are 5/8" too long for a fox body application).

Because your engine is also a 1992 engine, you will need the bellhousing and starter adapter plate that are specific to the 1991-1993 engines. I found this out the hard way when I got all of my parts from a 1990 Mustang and found that the adapter plate prevented the bellhousing from mating up properly against the aluminum oil pan design on my 1993 engine. The stamped steel oil pan on the 87-90 engines will not mate up to a 91-93 starter plate and bellhousing.

You will need the flywheel obviously and the flywheel bolts. Your flexplate bolts are too short to properly hold the flywheel to the crankshaft.

You will need the 10 bolts that hold the bellhousing/starter to the engine block.
There are four bolts that hold the T5 to the bellhousing.
You'll need the two trans crossmember long bolts/nuts as well as a Fox manual trans crossmember---I may be wrong, but I don't think the '95 crossmember will work.
A manual transmission specific rubber trans mount, the bolts that hold it to the T5 and the nuts that hold the mount to the crossmember as well as the long bracket with a rubber isolator for the tailpipe.
There is a specific driveshaft for the fox chassis with manual transmission. I wouldn't suggest using the driveshaft from the '95 3.8L because its a larger diameter which translates to more mass and its heavier.

The brackets for the automatic transmission mount can be removed by removing the one nut (per bracket) that secures the bracket to the space next to the welded in manual transmission crossmember brackets.

you'll need a clutch pedal box, clutch cable and the entire bellhousing mechanism for the cable.

The trim plate and shifter boot for a manual trans.

The automatic shifter cable on the steering column can be completely removed as well as the TV linkage cable that runs to the automatic transmission.

[Cgross609]

So will an 89 t-5 work with a 93 engine? What would i need to make it work?

[Cobraman1024]

Originally Posted by Cgross609 So will an 89 t-5 work with a 93 engine? What would i need to make it work?

Yes, any 87-93 T5, preferably the 90-93 T5 because they are stronger, and everything listed above that pertains to the 91-93 engine.