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Discussing DIS Timing advance question in the 2.3 Mustangs Forum. Hello, I'm working with a 1994 mazda (ford) B2300 2.3 liter, 4 cylinder ... Modded Mustangs is the premier Ford Mustang Forum on the internet. We discuss all aspects of the Ford Mustang on the forum. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free! |
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DIS Timing advance question
Hello, I'm working with a 1994 mazda (ford) B2300 2.3 liter, 4 cylinder engine. It also has a DIS, waste spark ignition, and hall effect style crank sensor as the reference. This setup is almost identical to the 89-93 4 cylinder mustangs. I would like to advance the ignition timing (not retard it) and it needs to be adjustable; I am not looking for a replacement emu prom. And before you ask “why?” I'll tell you, its for an alternative energy project I'm doing involving wood gas to power a Mazda truck, (mechanically identical to the Ford Ranger), for more info check out allenergies.net. I've looked into a number of different solutions, including backdating the entire engine management system to the distributer design, a complete standalone system (which was too expensive), and have been advised to do such things as modify the crankshaft pulley (which I am not interested in doing). The MSD DIS-2 system looks promising, but nowhere in the documentation can I find anything about advancing timing. I have been posting this question at multiple forums and have yet to find a suitable solution. Any of your ideas or suggestions regarding this problem would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. Sorry for the run on first post.
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IT'S TURBO TIME
1990 Mustang LX Turbo
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well i work with both Ford's 2.3 and Mazda's B2200 Engine
to advance the timing, theres a 13mm bolt on the distributor holding it down with a little metal bracket, loosen up the bolt so your able to turn it, when you got that, turn the distributor. i cant remember if you turn it to the left or the right, but get a timing light and point it at the dampner pulley and there should be a white notch with a scale of ATDC 30* and BTDC 10* and see which way it goes, it shas to go ATDC, meaning the notch goes down and not up and remember to pull the spout connector when timing it, and when you have a nice spot time'd right, plug the spout connector back in |
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woodgaser welcome
so i am kinda tired. did i read that right your gunna make the car run off wood gas?Thats awsume.
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Hey Turbo, read his post again--its a DIS system = NO DIZZY !!!!!
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IT'S TURBO TIME
1990 Mustang LX Turbo
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i knew that^
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Turbolx, if it were that easy I would have installed a in vehicle timing controller, which are very available and cheep for dizzy style ignitions.
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IT'S TURBO TIME
1990 Mustang LX Turbo
9.71@141.6 mph
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then im out of ideas
you try turboford.net? |
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Well I would join turboford, but there not accepting new members. The main reason I have been avoiding the turbo forums is there all about retarding the timing (which I know how to do), but the N/A people tend to go for timing advance.
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IT'S TURBO TIME
1990 Mustang LX Turbo
9.71@141.6 mph
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so what is it exactly your trying to do again?
more detail please |
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IT'S TURBO TIME
1990 Mustang LX Turbo
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you know what, my brother has a DIS 2.3 in his Mustang, ill mess around with that and see if i cant figure it out
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If I remember correctly theres not much of a way to adjust the timing on a DIS. The way it would be done i believe it through some kind of programming on the ECU but i could be wrong. Wait for final results from Turbo.
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IT'S TURBO TIME
1990 Mustang LX Turbo
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i just asked my father who is one of those 2.3 gods and been a turbo ford guy since they first came out and he says you cant advance the timing unless you make a new bracket and move the crank sensor
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