[87merkur]

wats the difference between a t-5 out of a 2.3 n/a and a t-5 out of a v8 like the 5.0? I was told theres no differnece... then i was told input shafts are differnt and u could swap them. then i heard the gearing wasnt good outa the 2.3L if u put it in a 5.0. Ive never actually seen the 5spd out of a v8 but i have to t-5 for 2.3 laying in my garage ones good and one needs rebuilding. So i just wanna know wat (if nething) i have to do to posisbly use the 2.3 t-5 w/the 5.0. (someone i work with wants it and idk if it will work)


Ne help would be gr8

[akatagyourit]

Biggest difference I believe is the teeth on the shaft that connects to the motor, i think the 2.3 tranny is a 23 spline and 5.0 i'm not sure on, but i may be wrong. May want to wait on someone a bit more knowledgable in that department to answer.

[87merkur]

ok....i think i might post it in the 5.0 section as well

[BUGMAN]

I have taken the 4 cylinder trannys and put them directly into a 5.0 with nothing being changed but the pilot bearing. Now I do know that the first gear is a little steeper but I prefer them over the T-5's in a mild street car. I have a few now that I have ran pretty hard and they do just fine.

The pilot bearing if I remember correctly is from a 92-93 Ranger. The T-5 will be a larger diameter so if you swap to the 4 cyl tranny the shaft will not ride in the bearing like it is suppose to.

[TurboLX]

but the input and output shafts are completley different so you would need an adapter to make it work

[BUGMAN]

Originally Posted by TurboLX but the input and output shafts are completley different so you would need an adapter to make it work

Hm not sure what you ran across but I have 5 in V-8's now and I have never done anything but change the pilot bearing. I have 3 4 cyl and 3 T-5's sitting side by side in my shop now that I will gladly take pictures of.

I do know that the older 4 speeds are different in many aspects. I have several of those also that we use in our dirt track cars.

[TurboLX]

i know for a fact the shafts on the T5's are different and wont built up unless an adapter is used

[BUGMAN]

Originally Posted by TurboLX i know for a fact the shafts on the T5's are different and wont built up unless an adapter is used

Are you speaking of the bell housings by any chance? I am trying to figure out what you mean because I just did one this past Tuesday. I used the V-8 bell and the pilot bearing and walla it was driving down the road an hour or so later.

I have taken many 4 cyl trannys and bolted them directly to a V-8 bell housing with the pilot bearing from a 1983 Ford Ranger Diesel and never had any issues. As a matter of fact I have even ran the 4 cylinder drive shafts in the V-8 cars temporarily when desperate.

Now we are speaking of a 87-93 4 cylinder trans and bolting it to a 87-93 V-8 using the T-5 bell housing right? I know the bell housings are different but the shafts are the same except for the diameter of the shaft that goes into the pilot bushing therefore I use the one from the Ranger Diesel as stated above.

Are you thinking of the TKO maybe?

[TurboLX]

see your talking about the ranger t5's which are pretty much the same as the 5.0's because of its gear ratio, as for the 4 banger mustangs, the shafts are different then the 5.0's resulting for an adapter kit

[BUGMAN]

I am not talking about the Ranger trannys at all. I am talking about the 87-93 4 cylinder 5 speed transmissions and putting them directly into a V-8 (5.0) car and only changing the pilot bearing (from a Ranger) and using the V-8 bell housing.

What does the adapter that your speaking of actually do? Change the size of the input and output shafts?

Do you have a part number for this adapter?

The only part I used Tuesday was the pilot bearing:
Dorman Clutch Pilot Bearing/Bushing Part No. 14672 $16.99
and the car is running and driving now. I used no adapters, no different input or output shafts or a magic wand. I took a the 4 bolts out of a 4 cylinder trans from a 89 Mustang LX, pulled the trany out and then bolted it directly to a 90 Mustang Gt V-8 bell housing, put it in the car and drove it about 45 miles so far with no issues.

[TurboLX]

you know what, the adapter thing was talking about is the pilot bearing.

my bad dude

TurboFord.net Forums: 2.3 t5 into 5.oh

[BUGMAN]

Originally Posted by TurboLX you know what, the adapter thing was talking about is the pilot bearing. my bad dude TurboFord.net Forums: 2.3 t5 into 5.oh

No problem man I was trying to figure out what ya meant. I can see your not an amateur so it was a challenge to me to figure out which part you were referring to.

Keep that part number for the pilot bearing, it saves us a ton of dremel/drilling and no metal in my hair.

[TurboLX]

yea i was a bit lost to because i thought you were reffering to just the ranger transmissions lol

good lucks on the part #, im gonna need it to, im waiting for my tranny to come back from the shop, getting it beefed up. better be worth the $1700 im about to pay on it