Best short blocks/rotating assemblies???

silverstang · January 22nd, 2009, 11:58 AM

With the tax returns coming in im looking at doing a short block in my car guys......I know Livernois is one of the best, but is there any "cheaper" ways to go??? I know cheap is not always the best, but I have hook-ups at some machine shops. (meaning i can get good work for cheap).....Im looking for a High compression setup. Flat top pistons (around 10.5.1 compression).......Is there any ptv issues with the flattops??? Can I safely run a stage 3 head with them?? any info appreciated guys. There is a fellow member on here that i might be picking up a cobra crank and rods from too.

07 STROKER · January 22nd, 2009, 12:02 PM

summit carrys a eagle series that is a 100 bucks cheaper i think...but the stroker kits for these cars are all around the same price...I assume you will stoke it if u r going to go thru the trouble of rebuilding...right

silverstang · January 22nd, 2009, 12:06 PM

Im going to buy another block, get it ALL ready, and slap it in the car in one weekend. I cant afford to have my car down to rebuild the motor thats in it. SOOOOO i was thinking about picking up the termi crank and rods from a certain MM member, and just going factory size bore and stroke.........I dunno though

Emay · January 22nd, 2009, 12:22 PM

Always cheaper if you have access to a quality builder local. MMR and Livernois are adding in cost for assembly that comes at a premium.. If you know people that do quality work, trust them, and come at a discount, then have it built just get the parts on line..

Personally, I'd rather have the one on one face to face experience over an assembly line short block anyway.

Stkjock · January 22nd, 2009, 12:25 PM

I'd go Livernois IMO, however if your looking for a less pricey alternative check out BBR in FL. IIRC they have a set up (must send core) in the 3K area

silverstang · January 22nd, 2009, 12:30 PM

Well I can do all the assembly myself actually, and that will save a considerable amount of money. Any machine work I need done will come fairly cheap too, because of the "hook up". Im worried about a flat top 3v piston with a stage 3 head having clearance issues. also, who out there makes a GOOD forged flat top for 3 valves?

07 STROKER · January 22nd, 2009, 12:51 PM

I purchaced the livernois 298 kit for 2100.

It has Kellog crank Manley rods wit harp 2000 bolts
And Malhe coated pistons. 8.7 to 1 compression i believe.

Now im getting it built for 950.00 bucks

He is also porting and polishing and bowl blending my heads for 600.00 bucks...just like a stage 2 head.

Thats all canadian dollars by the way.

07stanggt · January 22nd, 2009, 01:02 PM

Give me a call. I already talked to some people for you. I have some questions and some answers.

silverstang · January 22nd, 2009, 01:07 PM

who me??? what time do you want me to call bud??

07stanggt · January 22nd, 2009, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by silverstang

who me??? what time do you want me to call bud??

Whenever dude.

silverstang · January 22nd, 2009, 01:13 PM

ok bud let me get done eating my lunch and i'll holler at you...........the number on your website??

07 STROKER · January 22nd, 2009, 01:23 PM

should have had your poop in a group earlier rich... i would have bought my kit from you

Towelly · January 22nd, 2009, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by 07 procharger

should have had your poop in a group earlier rich... i would have bought my kit from you

Haha.... Poop in a group.... Nice....

07stanggt · January 22nd, 2009, 01:56 PM

You know i told you then i just didnt have the experience and knowledge to want to get into stuff that big.

Now im working with the big boys so im ready for whatever. You want a 8 second stang we can build it for you

07 STROKER · January 22nd, 2009, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

You know i told you then i just didnt have the experience and knowledge to want to get into stuff that big.

Now im working with the big boys so im ready for whatever. You want a 8 second stang we can build it for you

Dont tease me like that.....8 seconds??...let me see what im gonna do with what im doing know before i go to the next level.

05mustang_kb_charged · January 22nd, 2009, 04:17 PM

whichever kit you get they will have to machine the valve reliefs in the piston, flat or dished.

07 STROKER · January 22nd, 2009, 04:20 PM

really...livernois makes no mention of this with their kit.

05mustang_kb_charged · January 22nd, 2009, 04:28 PM

it is part of the rotating assembly, they do it for you already before they sell you the kit. If you look at any of the 3v pistons they have at a minimum the exhaust valve machined relief. here is a picture of my pistons with Eagle kit.

07 STROKER · January 22nd, 2009, 04:31 PM

stand by for my piston from livernois.

07 STROKER · January 22nd, 2009, 04:33 PM

stock

Malhe

January 22nd, 2009, 11:58 AM	#1
silverstang Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 11.70 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buna, Texas Posts: 2,547	Best short blocks/rotating assemblies??? With the tax returns coming in im looking at doing a short block in my car guys......I know Livernois is one of the best, but is there any "cheaper" ways to go??? I know cheap is not always the best, but I have hook-ups at some machine shops. (meaning i can get good work for cheap).....Im looking for a High compression setup. Flat top pistons (around 10.5.1 compression).......Is there any ptv issues with the flattops??? Can I safely run a stage 3 head with them?? any info appreciated guys. There is a fellow member on here that i might be picking up a cobra crank and rods from too. __________________ 11.80@118 11.70@114 Bassani Crew Member #3

January 22nd, 2009, 12:02 PM	#2
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,931	summit carrys a eagle series that is a 100 bucks cheaper i think...but the stroker kits for these cars are all around the same price...I assume you will stoke it if u r going to go thru the trouble of rebuilding...right __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

January 22nd, 2009, 12:06 PM	#3
silverstang Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 11.70 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buna, Texas Posts: 2,547	Im going to buy another block, get it ALL ready, and slap it in the car in one weekend. I cant afford to have my car down to rebuild the motor thats in it. SOOOOO i was thinking about picking up the termi crank and rods from a certain MM member, and just going factory size bore and stroke.........I dunno though __________________ 11.80@118 11.70@114 Bassani Crew Member #3

January 22nd, 2009, 12:22 PM	#4
Emay May 08 ROTM 2007 Mustang GT slow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Look over your shoulder Posts: 4,751	Always cheaper if you have access to a quality builder local. MMR and Livernois are adding in cost for assembly that comes at a premium.. If you know people that do quality work, trust them, and come at a discount, then have it built just get the parts on line.. Personally, I'd rather have the one on one face to face experience over an assembly line short block anyway. __________________ Studio lighting for sale: http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post2725050

January 22nd, 2009, 12:25 PM	#5
Stkjock Regular 2006 Vert 11.49 @ 121.45 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 469	I'd go Livernois IMO, however if your looking for a less pricey alternative check out BBR in FL. IIRC they have a set up (must send core) in the 3K area __________________ 06 GT- 4000lb Rowing machine 11.49 @121.45

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January 22nd, 2009, 12:30 PM	#6
silverstang Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 11.70 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buna, Texas Posts: 2,547	Well I can do all the assembly myself actually, and that will save a considerable amount of money. Any machine work I need done will come fairly cheap too, because of the "hook up". Im worried about a flat top 3v piston with a stage 3 head having clearance issues. also, who out there makes a GOOD forged flat top for 3 valves? __________________ 11.80@118 11.70@114 Bassani Crew Member #3

January 22nd, 2009, 12:51 PM	#7
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,931	I purchaced the livernois 298 kit for 2100. It has Kellog crank Manley rods wit harp 2000 bolts And Malhe coated pistons. 8.7 to 1 compression i believe. Now im getting it built for 950.00 bucks He is also porting and polishing and bowl blending my heads for 600.00 bucks...just like a stage 2 head. Thats all canadian dollars by the way. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

January 22nd, 2009, 01:02 PM	#8
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,946	Give me a call. I already talked to some people for you. I have some questions and some answers.

January 22nd, 2009, 01:07 PM	#9
silverstang Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 11.70 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buna, Texas Posts: 2,547	who me??? what time do you want me to call bud?? __________________ 11.80@118 11.70@114 Bassani Crew Member #3

January 22nd, 2009, 01:13 PM	#11
silverstang Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 11.70 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buna, Texas Posts: 2,547	ok bud let me get done eating my lunch and i'll holler at you...........the number on your website?? __________________ 11.80@118 11.70@114 Bassani Crew Member #3

January 22nd, 2009, 01:23 PM	#12
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,931	should have had your poop in a group earlier rich... i would have bought my kit from you __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

January 22nd, 2009, 01:56 PM	#14
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,946	You know i told you then i just didnt have the experience and knowledge to want to get into stuff that big. Now im working with the big boys so im ready for whatever. You want a 8 second stang we can build it for you

January 22nd, 2009, 04:17 PM	#16
05mustang_kb_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 10.32@137.70 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 2,509	whichever kit you get they will have to machine the valve reliefs in the piston, flat or dished. __________________ Just a little KB 2.6H 658 rwhp and 561 rwtq on 21 psi. and 93 octane through a 4R70W on a Mustang Dyno just a Daily Driver Tuned by Wes @ TPS

January 22nd, 2009, 04:20 PM	#17
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,931	really...livernois makes no mention of this with their kit. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

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January 22nd, 2009, 04:28 PM	#18
05mustang_kb_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 10.32@137.70 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 2,509	it is part of the rotating assembly, they do it for you already before they sell you the kit. If you look at any of the 3v pistons they have at a minimum the exhaust valve machined relief. here is a picture of my pistons with Eagle kit. __________________ Just a little KB 2.6H 658 rwhp and 561 rwtq on 21 psi. and 93 octane through a 4R70W on a Mustang Dyno just a Daily Driver Tuned by Wes @ TPS

January 22nd, 2009, 04:31 PM	#19
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,931	stand by for my piston from livernois. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

January 22nd, 2009, 04:33 PM	#20
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,931	stock Malhe __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!