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Old November 17th, 2009, 08:31 AM   #1
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Has anyone tried this with a 5.8L from an F-150?
 

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Old November 17th, 2009, 08:33 AM   #2
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You wanting to go with a pushrod motor?

MustangMatt has a 351 in his SN95. I don't know if it's a C or W though.
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I'm alos thinking of a similar swap once I decide to make the car a dedicated strip car. BMR has a k-member to allow a windsor to fit. You might check with them.
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We offer a k member for this swap. It is a direct bolt in for the 05 and mustang. You can also use this k memkber for a 429-460 motor but you will need the ford adaptor motor mounts. If you have any questions please give me a call.
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Anyone have a link to a thread where someone's done this swap with pictures?

I wouldn't ever do it to my car though. I mean you can make this platform go 8s, great daily driver, 'good' gas mileage and 'good' reliability.
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Agreed. My friend has an extra 351 sitting in his garage that he offered (half jokingly), so it got me thinking. I can't really justify pulling a perfectly good 4.6 though.
 
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Originally Posted by jonnieguns View Post
Has anyone tried this with a 5.8L from an F-150?
Is this for a street car or race car? If street car, and BTW I know these laws vary very widely by state, but if you put in a 351 I'm not sure you have any chance of passing emissions/inspection laws. I know in CT, my car needs to pass 2007 regs because my car is a 2007 and I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell I could get a 351 to pass 2007 emissions, not at least at a power level that would make it worth it. Just a thought.

BTW- Regardless of all the legal nonsense, I DO think the idea is very intersting.
 
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Good lord...

I can't believe a 460 fit quite so nicely in that.
 
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God that looks and sounds awesome....
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Holy crap, that is nuts that they stuffed that big motor in an engine bay that used to house a V6.. Man i wonder how much $$ it took him for motor, and to make everything fit/work.

Does the stock tranny bolt up to that?
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I wonder how much power it makes. I'd laugh if it makes like 450 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by NastyStang113 View Post
I wonder how much power it makes. I'd laugh if it makes like 450 rwhp.
Even if it is "only" 450 hp, it's 450 N/A hp and GOBS of low end torque. Not to mention a lot less complicated than an FI 4.6. If/when I decide to make my car race only, this is the direction I'm going.
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When you get ready give me a call. I don't have the k member listed on our site but it is available.
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Originally Posted by 06VistaBlueGT View Post
Even if it is "only" 450 hp, it's 450 N/A hp and GOBS of low end torque. Not to mention a lot less complicated than an FI 4.6. If/when I decide to make my car race only, this is the direction I'm going.
It's a lot less complicated than bolting on a blower in a day and getting it tuned the next day? I don't think so. I'm not looking to argue with you and you might like it but it's got to make a lot more power for me to even think about it. I'm not doubting it's going to make some more torque though.
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Originally Posted by NastyStang113 View Post
It's a lot less complicated than bolting on a blower in a day and getting it tuned the next day? I don't think so. I'm not looking to argue with you and you might like it but it's got to make a lot more power for me to even think about it. I'm not doubting it's going to make some more torque though.
I agree that bolting on a blower and getting it tuned isn't difficult (even though I haven't done it), I just mean the actual engine itself is more compicated. I think there is a lot less to go wrong with a 460 than with a 4.6. Nothing wrong with a 4.6, I love mine. I think parts are a lot cheaper for the 460 as well.
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If you want to put in a 460, you should build it with a set of these heads.

Jon Kaase Racing Engines - John Kaase Racing Engines

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Originally Posted by RetroGT2006 View Post
Holy crap, that is nuts that they stuffed that big motor in an engine bay that used to house a V6.. Man i wonder how much $$ it took him for motor, and to make everything fit/work.

Does the stock tranny bolt up to that?
Actually the DOHC 5.4 that comes in the GT500 is externally larger than a 426 hemi, and they both dwarf the Ford big block.

Originally Posted by 06VistaBlueGT View Post
I agree that bolting on a blower and getting it tuned isn't difficult (even though I haven't done it), I just mean the actual engine itself is more compicated. I think there is a lot less to go wrong with a 460 than with a 4.6. Nothing wrong with a 4.6, I love mine. I think parts are a lot cheaper for the 460 as well.
Not really... They are both engines, both work the same way. Yes the valvetrain is more complicated on the 4.6, but it's not much of a big deal. The fuel injection and electronics just make it easier to tune, easier to diagnose, more powerful, and more reliable. I'm a big believer in to each his own, but to me, I agree with Nasty. I don't see the point in swapping an olderpushrod Ford since you can do more with an FI modular anyway. Not to mention the weight. If I were to do a swap like that, I'd swap in an LS based stroker to at least make it worth it with a smallblock that can run circles around most big blocks.
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I think it all comes back to the adage.....There's no replacement for displacement.
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