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Old April 4th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #1
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I know they're all over the forum, but I have a question. I heard somewhere that the more direct path that the intake has to the engine the better, but people seem to push the JLT and the C&L intakes, but what about the "High Velocity Intake System by WMS"?

I'm pretty new to this stuff, so any input is great. Thanks.

If it means anything I have an '07 with no other engine modifications. I'll be getting a new exhaust system (true dual) between the end of this month and mid next month.
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once again... JLT.... that airflow looks like garbage...
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give it a try and let us know how well or poorly it does. Personally I wouldn't waste the money on a true dual, spend the money elsewhere.
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give it a try and let us know how well or poorly it does. Personally I wouldn't waste the money on a true dual, spend the money elsewhere.
lol... spending money on cars is a waste however you look at it... anyway you modify it the price will go down.. and true duals = better sound / more power... which is what were all looking for.
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JLT seems to be what people have told me in this forum. But if you want lots of cold air in, you want to get it out as fast as possible. Even with just a true dual setup you'll notice smoother acceleration with less lag @ 2000-3500 rpm.
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Originally Posted by MySerenade View Post
I know they're all over the forum, but I have a question. I heard somewhere that the more direct path that the intake has to the engine the better, but people seem to push the JLT and the C&L intakes, but what about the "High Velocity Intake System by WMS"?

I'm pretty new to this stuff, so any input is great. Thanks.

If it means anything I have an '07 with no other engine modifications. I'll be getting a new exhaust system (true dual) between the end of this month and mid next month.
people on here are stuck in their ways, though admittedly the JLT has proven its self. I have a JLT myself. If you think the WMS will do well feel free to get it you don't need our permission, and let us know how well or how bad it is.

Save the money and dont bother with the true dual, just get an axle back like pypes or flowmaster and a handheld tuner. The true duals aren't worth it for what little you get out of it performance wise. Though either way its your car and your the one that has to be happy with it, good luck on your purchase and build!!
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lol... spending money on cars is a waste however you look at it... anyway you modify it the price will go down.. and true duals = better sound / more power... which is what were all looking for.
unless you are doing major modifications (internals, S/C turbo) true duals aren't really going to do anything for you, the less restrictive muffler is a better bet.
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It looks nice at least that intake.
Would be nice if there was a review for it somewhere.
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Originally Posted by JJHoover View Post
unless you are doing major modifications (internals, S/C turbo) true duals aren't really going to do anything for you, the less restrictive muffler is a better bet.
look man you gotta pay to play .. everyone knows that ... that is a downside of owning a v6... you spend just as much money as v8 mods but you get like 1/4 of the gains..
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Originally Posted by Youngin View Post
look man you gotta pay to play .. everyone knows that ... that is a downside of owning a v6... you spend just as much money as v8 mods but you get like 1/4 of the gains..
I am quite aware of that, but it doesn't mean that someone needs to pay to play when they arent going to really get any benefit or gain other than bragging rights for having duals.
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Power gains + better/louder sound ... it might not be much but what small mods will give you alot of gains..
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Originally Posted by Youngin View Post
Power gains + better/louder sound ... it might not be much but what small mods will give you alot of gains..
as I said to him if thats what he wants its up to him, just giving my personal opinion, depending on the dual setup he would pick he could get a T-lock and a set of 3:73 or 4:11 gears what would do far more than the dual set up. An Aluminum driveshaft, a good tune, hell I would even proabably go with an underdrive pulley before duals. with the duals you just aren't going to get the bang for the buck. if all you want is it to be louder can get a GT muffler for that (find them on E-bay or craigslist for about $30), or even a Pypes muffler without having to do the cost for a dual setup. if all he wants is bragging rights well then so be it, its his car I am just offering my opinion.
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but its not just bragging rights... it has some gains...

also exhaust is usually around 600+/-

Gears-150
Tlok- 200
Gear Oil - 45
Friction Modifier - 10
Gear Install - 300 +/-
Tuner - 380/580 ...
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I know JLT is the forum favorite, I have a C&L and it works great. Also looks good under the hood.
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Originally Posted by Youngin View Post
but its not just bragging rights... it has some gains...
I am not saying it doesn't have any gains. I am saying that the gains for the price just isn't really worth it at first when there are plenty of other things that could be done first that would net much better gains for the price. It seams that people think that when you put headers and duals on a car that it’s this incredible source of horsepower, guess what its not. It doesn't start doing anything until you are putting out quite a bit of horsepower from the engine its self. Our V6's that barely have any mods (excluding S/C or Turbo) are going to gain very very little from duals. Now if he plans on putting a turbo or S/C then he should definitely get the duals first. Anything short of that or major internal upgrades would just be better off buying an axle back (muffler) and using the money on other mods.
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You say you're offering your opinion yet you're insisting that the OP doesn't get true duals. There's no doubt that duals are better. Sure they're an extra couple bucks, but if you're modding cars, that couple bucks won't be a big deal. You're going to end up throwing hundrends and maybe thousands into your car, so why half ass it?

Oh, and I wouldn't bother with that intake. Chances are if you haven't heard good stuff about it around, then it's not going to be all that great. It may be, but doubt it. Just go with C&L or JLT and get a tuner.
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Originally Posted by MySerenade View Post
I know they're all over the forum, but I have a question. I heard somewhere that the more direct path that the intake has to the engine the better, but people seem to push the JLT and the C&L intakes, but what about the "High Velocity Intake System by WMS"?

I'm pretty new to this stuff, so any input is great. Thanks.

If it means anything I have an '07 with no other engine modifications. I'll be getting a new exhaust system (true dual) between the end of this month and mid next month.
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Originally Posted by weezer View Post
You say you're offering your opinion yet you're insisting that the OP doesn't get true duals. There's no doubt that duals are better. Sure they're an extra couple bucks, but if you're modding cars, that couple bucks won't be a big deal. You're going to end up throwing hundrends and maybe thousands into your car, so why half ass it?
I am not insisting he doesn't get it I specificly stated that it is his car he is the one that has to be happy with it. Now I have been defending my opinion on the duals, and the no doubt part is really subjective. Also I find it amusing that you feel not going to true duals is half assing it. Why don't you actually read what I been posting.
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Originally Posted by weezer View Post
Oh, and I wouldn't bother with that intake. Chances are if you haven't heard good stuff about it around, then it's not going to be all that great. It may be, but doubt it. Just go with C&L or JLT and get a tuner.
If its a new product there wouldn't be any reviews or very few on it, does anyone know how long this CAI has been available? Its the first time I seen it.
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