Doesn't seem to start in cold?

APER · December 16th, 2008, 05:11 PM

Hey guys i know when its cold and you had an older car it was hard to get your car started on the first start. Just recently its been cold here and when i try to start it it just dies, then when i try it a second time it idles very rough almost like i had huge cams. Have to say sounds kinda mean but is this normal? this is of course when my car has been sitting out in the cold i have no problem when its in my garage. myabe i need to reflash it again or just email Doug maybe he knows whats up.

weldreth · December 16th, 2008, 07:13 PM

I know the s197 have a battery problem in the cold. As for the idle does it go away when it warms up, does it do it in the cold in a warm startup

1LOUDGT · December 17th, 2008, 05:57 AM

Try turning your key forward just before ignition. You will hear 3 or 4 clicking noises similar to when you load a tune to your computer. Then continue to turn key to start car.

APER · December 17th, 2008, 03:36 PM

Hey thanks guy, yes once it warms up it idles fine. Just wondering if there is anything i should do i wait till i hear the 3 or 4 clicking noises before i start that car.

hammeron · December 17th, 2008, 09:52 PM

how's it going aper.....i'm no expert by
any means, but i have to think it may be
related to the cams. i know when i was
runnning my hot rods and the weather started
getting colder, i could tell that my engine was
much more cold blooded than with my stock
cams.

i'm not sure a tweak to the tune would help
or not.

again, i'm just speculating here....good luck
and i hope it starts working better for you

Ho_Edge · December 18th, 2008, 06:46 AM

mine does this too....i actually just made a post about it b4 i read this :/

as long as i let it idle for maybe 20 or 30 seconds its fine....but if i try to give it gas it just wants to die.....or does die~

1LOUDGT · December 18th, 2008, 07:49 AM

It makes the clicking noise immediately. If i don't hear it i just continue turning the key and start the car. I have no idea what the clicking is related to i just know when i do it the car starts on the first turn every time. Idle shoots up to about 1500 then slowly drops down to normal idle.

If i don't wait for the clicking the car wont start on the first try and on the second it will start, but the idle jumps to 2000 and bounces up and down for a while.

07stanggt · December 18th, 2008, 09:47 AM

The clicking noise maybe the fuel pump working?

My cams have made it a little rought starting. i gotta give it some gas sometimes. Was never like that on the NSR cams, but i never tuned the NSR cams, i think you got a tune for it.

hellbred07 · December 23rd, 2008, 12:10 PM

Thats definately the fuel pump coming on.Click it forward for a second then try then stop if it dosen't start like it usually would.Wait a second and try it again it should work.Once it warm it should be fine.

APER · December 23rd, 2008, 09:02 PM

yeah i have a bamachips tune for it. The car runs great though, no problems other than starting in cold weather. Just curious if anyone else has had this prob. Thanks guys for the help.

navyman8903 · December 23rd, 2008, 10:17 PM

if you keep your car in a garage it helps. And if you need to pop your hood a buy a light bulb and put it under your hood a few hours before starting or overnight. just a small light will do. That is what I use to do with the mazda and it helped.

TheUNZippee! · December 24th, 2008, 05:06 PM

Mine hates the cold.

That Is All.

JakeM · December 24th, 2008, 05:13 PM

I just started mine again for the first time in a week or so and she fired right up!! Been in the teens here with negative's after dark.

TheUNZippee! · December 24th, 2008, 05:13 PM

I keep a trickle charger on mine during the winter.

07 STROKER · December 24th, 2008, 06:55 PM

leave the key on for a few seconds to let the glow plugs warm up...that should help.

TheUNZippee! · December 24th, 2008, 07:02 PM

stfu meanie!

07 STROKER · December 24th, 2008, 07:05 PM

i had to! Merry X mas fucker.

TheUNZippee! · December 24th, 2008, 07:06 PM

Merry Christmas, Ken.

:kiss

07 STROKER · December 24th, 2008, 07:06 PM

awwwwwww

brianm · December 24th, 2008, 07:13 PM

why don't you just plug the block heater in. if you have one

December 16th, 2008, 05:11 PM	#1
APER Regular 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Abilene Posts: 212 iTrader: 0 reviews	Doesn't seem to start in cold? Hey guys i know when its cold and you had an older car it was hard to get your car started on the first start. Just recently its been cold here and when i try to start it it just dies, then when i try it a second time it idles very rough almost like i had huge cams. Have to say sounds kinda mean but is this normal? this is of course when my car has been sitting out in the cold i have no problem when its in my garage. myabe i need to reflash it again or just email Doug maybe he knows whats up. __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...ust_143888.htm My mods: Comp NSR II's, JBA shorties, Pypes o/r H-pipe, Steeda axlebacks, Steeda UD, BBK TB, Steeda CAI, FRPP4.10, BMR panhard/LCA/Relo, Eibach springs, D-specs,Bama 91race, CMDP

December 16th, 2008, 07:13 PM	#2
weldreth Regular 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD Posts: 241 iTrader: 0 reviews	I know the s197 have a battery problem in the cold. As for the idle does it go away when it warms up, does it do it in the cold in a warm startup __________________ puedo tocar tu gato?

December 17th, 2008, 05:57 AM	#3
1LOUDGT Enthusiast 2006 GT 11.99@114 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orlando, FL. Posts: 730 iTrader: 0 reviews	Try turning your key forward just before ignition. You will hear 3 or 4 clicking noises similar to when you load a tune to your computer. Then continue to turn key to start car. __________________ 2006 GT (Fastest) 2004 COBRA (Faster) 1990 LX 5.0 (Fast)

December 17th, 2008, 03:36 PM	#4
APER Regular 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Abilene Posts: 212 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hey thanks guy, yes once it warms up it idles fine. Just wondering if there is anything i should do i wait till i hear the 3 or 4 clicking noises before i start that car. __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...ust_143888.htm My mods: Comp NSR II's, JBA shorties, Pypes o/r H-pipe, Steeda axlebacks, Steeda UD, BBK TB, Steeda CAI, FRPP4.10, BMR panhard/LCA/Relo, Eibach springs, D-specs,Bama 91race, CMDP

December 18th, 2008, 06:46 AM	#6
Ho_Edge Regular 2006 Mustang GT havent been yet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas baby! Posts: 280 iTrader: 0 reviews	mine too mine does this too....i actually just made a post about it b4 i read this :/ as long as i let it idle for maybe 20 or 30 seconds its fine....but if i try to give it gas it just wants to die.....or does die~ __________________ Powerhouse 4" Driveshaft JLT CAI Xcal2 + Brenspeed 93 tune Flow 40s custom fab'd O/R Hpipe

December 17th, 2008, 09:52 PM	#5
hammeron Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 120 iTrader: 0 reviews	how's it going aper.....i'm no expert by any means, but i have to think it may be related to the cams. i know when i was runnning my hot rods and the weather started getting colder, i could tell that my engine was much more cold blooded than with my stock cams. i'm not sure a tweak to the tune would help or not. again, i'm just speculating here....good luck and i hope it starts working better for you

December 18th, 2008, 07:49 AM	#7
1LOUDGT Enthusiast 2006 GT 11.99@114 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orlando, FL. Posts: 730 iTrader: 0 reviews	It makes the clicking noise immediately. If i don't hear it i just continue turning the key and start the car. I have no idea what the clicking is related to i just know when i do it the car starts on the first turn every time. Idle shoots up to about 1500 then slowly drops down to normal idle. If i don't wait for the clicking the car wont start on the first try and on the second it will start, but the idle jumps to 2000 and bounces up and down for a while. __________________ 2006 GT (Fastest) 2004 COBRA (Faster) 1990 LX 5.0 (Fast)

December 18th, 2008, 09:47 AM	#8
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,951 iTrader: 1 reviews	The clicking noise maybe the fuel pump working? My cams have made it a little rought starting. i gotta give it some gas sometimes. Was never like that on the NSR cams, but i never tuned the NSR cams, i think you got a tune for it.

December 23rd, 2008, 12:10 PM	#9
hellbred07 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: va Posts: 791 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thats definately the fuel pump coming on.Click it forward for a second then try then stop if it dosen't start like it usually would.Wait a second and try it again it should work.Once it warm it should be fine.

December 23rd, 2008, 09:02 PM	#10
APER Regular 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Abilene Posts: 212 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i have a bamachips tune for it. The car runs great though, no problems other than starting in cold weather. Just curious if anyone else has had this prob. Thanks guys for the help. __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...ust_143888.htm My mods: Comp NSR II's, JBA shorties, Pypes o/r H-pipe, Steeda axlebacks, Steeda UD, BBK TB, Steeda CAI, FRPP4.10, BMR panhard/LCA/Relo, Eibach springs, D-specs,Bama 91race, CMDP

December 24th, 2008, 05:06 PM	#12
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mine hates the cold. That Is All. __________________

December 24th, 2008, 05:13 PM	#14
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	I keep a trickle charger on mine during the winter. __________________

December 24th, 2008, 06:55 PM	#15
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,933 iTrader: 0 reviews	leave the key on for a few seconds to let the glow plugs warm up...that should help. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

December 24th, 2008, 07:02 PM	#16
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	stfu meanie! __________________

December 24th, 2008, 07:05 PM	#17
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,933 iTrader: 0 reviews	i had to! Merry X mas fucker. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

December 24th, 2008, 07:06 PM	#18
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Merry Christmas, Ken. :kiss __________________

December 24th, 2008, 07:06 PM	#19
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,933 iTrader: 0 reviews	awwwwwww __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

December 24th, 2008, 07:13 PM	#20
brianm Hardcore Enthusiast 2011 ram 1500 hemi Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sylvan lake, alberta Posts: 1,333 iTrader: 0 reviews	why don't you just plug the block heater in. if you have one __________________ vmp500 hp. jba lts. powerhouse d/s Sold

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