409.5 Dyno.

UrbanRedneck · January 1st, 2009, 02:53 PM

That's pretty cool. Only thing I don't like is how rapidly the torque drops off, I'd like to see a dyno taht goes down to 1500 or so. That's the problem with smaller engines, you can make power with them if you wanna spin them real high, but you won't have the lowend torque that you'd have with a bigger engine, that's why you're better off with more displacement for a fun street car, but for a race car that only needs high RPM power, this thing should haul ass.

roxas331 · January 1st, 2009, 02:53 PM

450 would be better but you achieved your goal of 400+ to the wheels, nice rich I think ima use your set up to stay N/A and maybe put a bottle in.

mustang95 5.0 · January 1st, 2009, 02:57 PM

very nice man 450 is a good goal to set car is sick man

07stanggt · January 1st, 2009, 02:58 PM

450 wont happen. But im hoping for 420. I think its doable after some stuff i saw yesterday.

Yea urban i know what your saying. The tq still peaks at like 5100 though and driving it around the car doesnt feel like im missing any low end power. But it does loose about 10hp up to like 4500.

Besides thats what gear is for in this car. thats why 4.10s are a must on a n/a setup. But i agree, if you want the low end smack you need some cubes, or a twin screw will hit in you in the back like a sledgehammer.

psycho bob · January 1st, 2009, 03:02 PM

450 pshhhh. i think since you are worried about the intake getting heat soaked you should cool it off with some n20

when you're already that high it won't take much of a shot to get you close to the engines safety point.

07stanggt · January 1st, 2009, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by psycho bob

450 pshhhh. i think since you are worried about the intake getting heat soaked you should cool it off with some n20 when you're already that high it won't take much of a shot to get you close to the engines safety point.

Spray is on my mind.

im not to worried about the heat on it. But if i had to name a possible downside on the street that is all i can think off.

mathematically my traps at 410 should be what 116.5? if they were 114.5 with 389? get it up to 420 i should trap around 117? 11.5s all motor, dare i say.

The good news maybe for my car is justin mentioned that it would be cool to take it to the track and do runs with the stock intake and then switch to his intake, do a same day test. that would answer any questions.

i was thinking yea, for me it would be cool to see what a real driver can get outta my car. Im gonna stay on him about doing that.

bring a set of those bogarts with you and lets see what this boy can do for real.

psycho bob · January 1st, 2009, 03:18 PM

yeah you mean see how high he can get your tires.

05roush0090 · January 1st, 2009, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

Spray is on my mind. im not to worried about the heat on it. But if i had to name a possible downside on the street that is all i can think off.

mathematically my traps at 410 should be what 116.5? if they were 114.5 with 389? get it up to 420 i should trap around 117? 11.5s all motor, dare i say.

The good news maybe for my car is justin mentioned that it would be cool to take it to the track and do runs with the stock intake and then switch to his intake, do a same day test. that would answer any questions.

i was thinking yea, for me it would be cool to see what a real driver can get outta my car. Im gonna stay on him about doing that. bring a set of those bogarts with you and lets see what this boy can do for real.

let us know if you do it. that will be sweet. I was reading your post where you stated Justing thinks 13:1 would be lean max torque and I was thinking, it was 12.8:1 in my LS1 to I would think he is right since the cubes are a bit less. all good to know, thanks for filling us in Rich.

Mickey · January 2nd, 2009, 01:00 AM

A 50 shot would be absolutely perfect for your car...you wouldnt need to really change the tune and it will cool things off a bit

2006greyGT · January 2nd, 2009, 01:21 AM

thats where I was at with a blower... I still say you don't have any reason to go above 6900 rpm...the power was dropping pretty hard at 7... unless you are going on the old E=MC squared

05roush0090 · January 2nd, 2009, 05:09 AM

Hey rich I got to thinking about it and you may be in the mid 11s. 409rwhp with 4.10 gears is more impressive than I initially thought. I remember in a previous car I had 3.42 gears and swapped to 4.10s or 4.11s cant remember and my rwhp dropped slightly on a dyno jet, sure as hell did not feel like it though, lol. Run that beast at the strip and get her to hook and see what you ET.

tribaltek · January 2nd, 2009, 10:52 AM

Hot shit man!!! Mid-to-high 11's without doubt.

germansheperd · January 2nd, 2009, 11:26 AM

great numbers bro! that car should be a beast! was that on a Dynojet or Mustang Dyno?

APER · January 2nd, 2009, 03:33 PM

Great setup Rich you have me wanting to go all motor now. It's just the money you have to put into it, but having 400+ to the rear wheels N/A is badass. I know it'll run like a bat out of hell. Props brotha.....

07stanggt · January 2nd, 2009, 03:54 PM

The heads are really what kills the n/a setup from a cost perspective. thats the most expensive part and the one thing that most of us just cant do in our driveway. The intake, is a easy job, the cams can be done. Its just the heads, you figure 2100 and then 2000 in related parts and labor at least. Thats the killer right there. I bet, you could hit like 390, on stock heads with the intake cams, full bolt ons, exhuast. It can be done. maybe even 400 with the ud's, and electic water pump, and short belt it at the track on stock heads.

07stanggt · January 2nd, 2009, 05:12 PM

Im not done yet.

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TheUNZippee! · January 2nd, 2009, 05:14 PM

Dude, you need to tone down the Blair Witchiness lol

APER · January 2nd, 2009, 05:17 PM

Its funny looking back at some earlier threads about N/A setup and how much power we could get out of them. Now present day your pushing 400+ to the wheels. The 3v's have alot of potential and we are just breaking in on the N/A aspect of our 3v modulars. Yeah the heads are what is costing the most, if i new some that could just port and polish my stockers here in town i'd do that maybe it would be cheaper i don't know.

07stanggt · January 2nd, 2009, 05:17 PM

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TheUNZippee! · January 2nd, 2009, 05:19 PM

Cool. You're like the James Bond of black NA Stangs

January 1st, 2009, 02:53 PM	#21
UrbanRedneck Hardcore Enthusiast 2008 Mustang GT 13.124@105.52 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,138 iTrader: 1 reviews	That's pretty cool. Only thing I don't like is how rapidly the torque drops off, I'd like to see a dyno taht goes down to 1500 or so. That's the problem with smaller engines, you can make power with them if you wanna spin them real high, but you won't have the lowend torque that you'd have with a bigger engine, that's why you're better off with more displacement for a fun street car, but for a race car that only needs high RPM power, this thing should haul ass. __________________ Hurst Crew Member #20 2008 GT - ARH, C&L, Hurst, BORLA, BMR, Bilstein, FRPP, Axle Exchange. Awesome.

January 1st, 2009, 02:57 PM	#23
mustang95 5.0 Regular 95 mustang v6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MA Posts: 419 Blog Entries: 5 iTrader: 0 reviews	very nice man 450 is a good goal to set car is sick man __________________ F.O.R.D First On Race Day enough said

January 1st, 2009, 03:02 PM	#25
psycho bob I Post Entirely Way Too Much 07 GT/86 LX 5.0 12.86@104 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: colorado springs, co/ Tulsa, OK Posts: 7,528 iTrader: 0 reviews	450 pshhhh. i think since you are worried about the intake getting heat soaked you should cool it off with some n20 when you're already that high it won't take much of a shot to get you close to the engines safety point. __________________ heads, cams, and eforce using up all the air around

January 1st, 2009, 03:18 PM	#27
psycho bob I Post Entirely Way Too Much 07 GT/86 LX 5.0 12.86@104 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: colorado springs, co/ Tulsa, OK Posts: 7,528 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah you mean see how high he can get your tires. __________________ heads, cams, and eforce using up all the air around

January 2nd, 2009, 01:00 AM	#29
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,398 iTrader: 0 reviews	A 50 shot would be absolutely perfect for your car...you wouldnt need to really change the tune and it will cool things off a bit __________________ Under Construction

January 1st, 2009, 02:53 PM	#22
roxas331 Regular 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 123 iTrader: 0 reviews	450 would be better but you achieved your goal of 400+ to the wheels, nice rich I think ima use your set up to stay N/A and maybe put a bottle in.

January 1st, 2009, 02:58 PM	#24
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,951 iTrader: 1 reviews	450 wont happen. But im hoping for 420. I think its doable after some stuff i saw yesterday. Yea urban i know what your saying. The tq still peaks at like 5100 though and driving it around the car doesnt feel like im missing any low end power. But it does loose about 10hp up to like 4500. Besides thats what gear is for in this car. thats why 4.10s are a must on a n/a setup. But i agree, if you want the low end smack you need some cubes, or a twin screw will hit in you in the back like a sledgehammer.

January 2nd, 2009, 01:21 AM	#30
2006greyGT Premium Member 2006 Satin Silver GT 11.08@125.22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KC Posts: 2,947 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats where I was at with a blower... I still say you don't have any reason to go above 6900 rpm...the power was dropping pretty hard at 7... unless you are going on the old E=MC squared __________________ 2.6l KENNE BELL 298 Stroker, Ported heads Pro Motion Built 3650/McLeod RST/ MGW Short Throw Long tube/O/R X /Borla Touring 8 rib/65 lb injectors/GT500 twin fuel ET Drag Slicks/3.73 gear Detroit Truetrac /CDC AGR Spoiler

January 2nd, 2009, 05:09 AM	#31
05roush0090 Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT Roush Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 728 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hey rich I got to thinking about it and you may be in the mid 11s. 409rwhp with 4.10 gears is more impressive than I initially thought. I remember in a previous car I had 3.42 gears and swapped to 4.10s or 4.11s cant remember and my rwhp dropped slightly on a dyno jet, sure as hell did not feel like it though, lol. Run that beast at the strip and get her to hook and see what you ET. __________________ Paxton/Vortech crew member # 2 Vortech V3 si, A/A cooler, 3.48" pulley, 39lbers, KB BAP, Billet delete plates, Stage 2 thumprs, phaser limiters, Mac Lts, Offroad x, Roush short throw, Brisk plugs, Brenspeed 93 tune, relocated IAT.

January 2nd, 2009, 10:52 AM	#32
tribaltek Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Supercharged HD F150 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,490 iTrader: 1 reviews	Hot shit man!!! Mid-to-high 11's without doubt. __________________ '02 Supercharged Harley-Davidson F-150 '05 Mustang GT (Sold)

January 2nd, 2009, 11:26 AM	#33
germansheperd Regular 2008 Mustang GT 12.13@111.63 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 287 iTrader: 0 reviews	great numbers bro! that car should be a beast! was that on a Dynojet or Mustang Dyno? __________________ N/A Automatic 3V GT-Nuff said Can we please have George W. Bush back?

January 2nd, 2009, 03:33 PM	#34
APER Regular 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Abilene Posts: 212 iTrader: 0 reviews	Great setup Rich you have me wanting to go all motor now. It's just the money you have to put into it, but having 400+ to the rear wheels N/A is badass. I know it'll run like a bat out of hell. Props brotha..... __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...ust_143888.htm My mods: Comp NSR II's, JBA shorties, Pypes o/r H-pipe, Steeda axlebacks, Steeda UD, BBK TB, Steeda CAI, FRPP4.10, BMR panhard/LCA/Relo, Eibach springs, D-specs,Bama 91race, CMDP

January 2nd, 2009, 03:54 PM	#35
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,951 iTrader: 1 reviews	The heads are really what kills the n/a setup from a cost perspective. thats the most expensive part and the one thing that most of us just cant do in our driveway. The intake, is a easy job, the cams can be done. Its just the heads, you figure 2100 and then 2000 in related parts and labor at least. Thats the killer right there. I bet, you could hit like 390, on stock heads with the intake cams, full bolt ons, exhuast. It can be done. maybe even 400 with the ud's, and electic water pump, and short belt it at the track on stock heads.

January 2nd, 2009, 05:14 PM	#37
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Dude, you need to tone down the Blair Witchiness lol __________________

January 2nd, 2009, 05:17 PM	#38
APER Regular 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Abilene Posts: 212 iTrader: 0 reviews	Its funny looking back at some earlier threads about N/A setup and how much power we could get out of them. Now present day your pushing 400+ to the wheels. The 3v's have alot of potential and we are just breaking in on the N/A aspect of our 3v modulars. Yeah the heads are what is costing the most, if i new some that could just port and polish my stockers here in town i'd do that maybe it would be cheaper i don't know. __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...ust_143888.htm My mods: Comp NSR II's, JBA shorties, Pypes o/r H-pipe, Steeda axlebacks, Steeda UD, BBK TB, Steeda CAI, FRPP4.10, BMR panhard/LCA/Relo, Eibach springs, D-specs,Bama 91race, CMDP

January 2nd, 2009, 05:19 PM	#40
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Cool. You're like the James Bond of black NA Stangs __________________

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