can't decide

Jucostud · January 9th, 2009, 02:03 AM

How much power do you guys think i would put down with mac lt's, o/r prochamber, comp stage 2 spr cams, and new c&l manifold? I already have a jlt cai, steeda udp's, and 4.10's. I figured i could probable get all the parts for around $2,500. Would my ET be even close to the same as just getting the vortech v3 non-intercooled instead? after laber, they would both be about the same price.

psycho bob · January 9th, 2009, 02:10 AM

i wouldn't do the non intercooled one. later when you want to add the intercooler for it it will cost so much more than doing it up front. i thought you knew a ford master tech that does side work? i'd rather have the lt's, intake, and cam over the non intercooled one. i'm going to be doing all my own work unless i can find some totally insane deal on some side work for install.

Jucostud · January 9th, 2009, 02:20 AM

I do know a good ford tech and service manager. I figure i could get him to install all this stuff for a maximum of $1,000. that would put me aprox. at $3,500 for parts and labor. vortech would cost me $3,600. vortech would put me probable around 400-420hp... cams, lt's, and manifold??? Adding the intercooler later isn't too much more. non- intercooled kit is 3,600 and complete kit is like 5,000. to add the rest of the kit later it cost around 1,800. So around 400 bucks.

Bhblondguy · January 9th, 2009, 02:20 AM

I'd go with the supercharger. Save for the intercooled one though, it makes quite a difference.

Jucostud · January 9th, 2009, 02:24 AM

i'm sure it makes a big differance, but i can't save. I spend what i have. I have roughly $3,600 for modding... well, will have

. waiting for money to come.

Bhblondguy · January 9th, 2009, 02:32 AM

spend it all then!

Jucostud · January 9th, 2009, 02:41 AM

i'm trying too

. I want reliability and ET. Which one is going make me the happiest?

psycho bob · January 9th, 2009, 02:48 AM

hey juco justin said he had 2 sets of heads

usafimj · January 9th, 2009, 03:34 AM

I bet you can do the exhaust and intake manifold yourself. that would save you more money for more mods

leebunnyz · January 9th, 2009, 03:48 AM

i say do the N/A mods instead of a non-intercooled kit...and does the C&L manifold fit with a JLT or do you have to buy a C&L intake as well?

usafimj · January 9th, 2009, 03:57 AM

Should fit with any CAI

leebunnyz · January 9th, 2009, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by usafimj

Should fit with any CAI

beautiful!

psycho bob · January 9th, 2009, 05:56 AM

yeah the cai hooks up to the throttle body so you can use any one you want

psycho bob · January 9th, 2009, 05:58 AM

heads, cams, and everything needed for self install will be right in your neighborhood if he still had that other set.

navyman8903 · January 9th, 2009, 11:23 AM

do all motor juco. Join the club. Go for the heads and cams. And you can even add the c&l intake manifold. There is also nothing wrong with the non intercooled centri, but I dont know how the power curve is. I have only seen paxton graphs, and those were 2200novi intercooled. But you should be able to install one your self. I dont mess with heads and cams. But the sc should be easy. Good luck choosing it took me a year. (Plus by selecting the correct cam for your style of driving you can change the arc of your power band to beat sc'd cars.)

forensicsteve · January 9th, 2009, 11:30 AM

You sure you cannot save. I'm biased towards forced induction

AnimalCrackers · January 9th, 2009, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Jucostud

How much power do you guys think i would put down with mac lt's, o/r prochamber, comp stage 2 spr cams, and new c&l manifold? I already have a jlt cai, steeda udp's, and 4.10's. I figured i could probable get all the parts for around $2,500. Would my ET be even close to the same as just getting the vortech v3 non-intercooled instead? after laber, they would both be about the same price.

I don't think anyone is entirely sure how well the manifold will respond with other supporting mods, it's advertised at bama as 17+ or more HP.

LTs - 10-15hp?
prochamber - 10 hp
no idea on cams
manifold + intake - 37hp?
udp - 5-10hp

so that's about 62-72hp + whatever the cams get ya. I would imagine you'd net at least 100+hp from all that. I could be way off though, this is all just guessing for me

Might be able to squeeze out 10-20 more out of a good dyno tune for 93.

JakeM · January 9th, 2009, 12:39 PM

I also say stay N/A.... Mostly cause not everyone is doing it.

chad05gt · January 9th, 2009, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jucostud

i'm trying too. I want reliability and ET. Which one is going make me the happiest?

Well, there is your answer...
NON-intercoolded s/c NOT the kind of reliability you are looking for...

Heads and cams and with a lil practice and a good wheel set up and gears.. you have a safe and reliable daily driven sub-12sec. car...

AND, you are VERRRY ready to save for next year and put an intercooled s/c on THAT bad ass... See where Im getting

JM2

chad05gt · January 9th, 2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by AnimalCrackers

I don't think anyone is entirely sure how well the manifold will respond with other supporting mods, it's advertised at bama as 17+ or more HP.

LTs - 10-15hp?
prochamber - 10 hp
no idea on cams
manifold + intake - 37hp?
udp - 5-10hp

so that's about 62-72hp + whatever the cams get ya. I would imagine you'd net at least 100+hp from all that. I could be way off though, this is all just guessing for me Might be able to squeeze out 10-20 more out of a good dyno tune for 93.

NO RICER MATH!!

If it worked THAT way, there would be several 500hp n/a cars!!

January 9th, 2009, 02:03 AM	#1
Jucostud booooost'd 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: drink'n ur kool-aid Posts: 7,043 iTrader: 0 reviews	can't decide How much power do you guys think i would put down with mac lt's, o/r prochamber, comp stage 2 spr cams, and new c&l manifold? I already have a jlt cai, steeda udp's, and 4.10's. I figured i could probable get all the parts for around $2,500. Would my ET be even close to the same as just getting the vortech v3 non-intercooled instead? after laber, they would both be about the same price. __________________ Jucostud's Official Build Thread 1988 LX HATCH 5.0 - FOR SALE $5,000 OBO 2007 vortech gt - SOLD! Looking for next project

January 9th, 2009, 02:20 AM	#3
Jucostud booooost'd 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: drink'n ur kool-aid Posts: 7,043 iTrader: 0 reviews	I do know a good ford tech and service manager. I figure i could get him to install all this stuff for a maximum of $1,000. that would put me aprox. at $3,500 for parts and labor. vortech would cost me $3,600. vortech would put me probable around 400-420hp... cams, lt's, and manifold??? Adding the intercooler later isn't too much more. non- intercooled kit is 3,600 and complete kit is like 5,000. to add the rest of the kit later it cost around 1,800. So around 400 bucks. __________________ Jucostud's Official Build Thread 1988 LX HATCH 5.0 - FOR SALE $5,000 OBO 2007 vortech gt - SOLD! Looking for next project

January 9th, 2009, 02:24 AM	#5
Jucostud booooost'd 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: drink'n ur kool-aid Posts: 7,043 iTrader: 0 reviews	i'm sure it makes a big differance, but i can't save. I spend what i have. I have roughly $3,600 for modding... well, will have. waiting for money to come. __________________ Jucostud's Official Build Thread 1988 LX HATCH 5.0 - FOR SALE $5,000 OBO 2007 vortech gt - SOLD! Looking for next project

January 9th, 2009, 02:41 AM	#7
Jucostud booooost'd 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: drink'n ur kool-aid Posts: 7,043 iTrader: 0 reviews	i'm trying too. I want reliability and ET. Which one is going make me the happiest? __________________ Jucostud's Official Build Thread 1988 LX HATCH 5.0 - FOR SALE $5,000 OBO 2007 vortech gt - SOLD! Looking for next project

January 9th, 2009, 03:34 AM	#9
usafimj I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 Ford Mustang GT 12.847 @ 114.12mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok. Posts: 5,084 iTrader: 1 reviews	I bet you can do the exhaust and intake manifold yourself. that would save you more money for more mods __________________ 07 GT-- Gone But Not Forgotten Military Crew E-5

January 9th, 2009, 02:20 AM	#4
Bhblondguy Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 12.00@114.82 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baytown, Tx. Posts: 1,234 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'd go with the supercharger. Save for the intercooled one though, it makes quite a difference.

January 9th, 2009, 02:32 AM	#6
Bhblondguy Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 12.00@114.82 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baytown, Tx. Posts: 1,234 iTrader: 0 reviews	spend it all then!

January 9th, 2009, 03:48 AM	#10
leebunnyz MM Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 3,550 iTrader: 0 reviews	i say do the N/A mods instead of a non-intercooled kit...and does the C&L manifold fit with a JLT or do you have to buy a C&L intake as well? __________________ Jesus Christ is #1 "The Founder Of Crews"

January 9th, 2009, 03:57 AM	#11
usafimj I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 Ford Mustang GT 12.847 @ 114.12mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok. Posts: 5,084 iTrader: 1 reviews	Should fit with any CAI __________________ 07 GT-- Gone But Not Forgotten Military Crew E-5

January 9th, 2009, 11:30 AM	#16
forensicsteve Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,283 iTrader: 0 reviews	You sure you cannot save. I'm biased towards forced induction

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