cams, longtubes and prochamber..tell me what you think!!

twest · March 2nd, 2009, 03:55 PM

I am thinking about doing the mac longtubes and o/r prochamber with the frpp hot rod cams, what kind or rwhp gains can I expect with my current setup and the shop I called said $1100-1200 install price which to me sounds steep, is this the going rate? He said that it would be $740 without the cam install which still sounds high....what do you guys think?

rakkassan34 · March 2nd, 2009, 05:00 PM

If you have the cash and not the time go for it. If it's the other way around DIY. Just get it done so we can hear that bad boy. Average HP gains are 30rwhp with hot rod cams and long tubes

unlicensed to drive · March 2nd, 2009, 05:01 PM

My local tuner quoted 450 or so for longtubes and about 500 for NSR cams. So the price would be about 1,200-1,300 with tuning. Dynotunes here are 300 so I'm basing the tuning costs off of that.

navyman8903 · March 2nd, 2009, 05:02 PM

if you add a meziere electric water pump/relay kit and steeda race plates to that equation then you will have about 360-365ish.

unlicensed to drive · March 2nd, 2009, 05:03 PM

315 is pretty high for his amount of mods. I wonder if he got dynoed w/o a correction factor.

beefmobile · March 2nd, 2009, 05:20 PM

I have NSR cams, and i did them myself.

Also, i just ordered MAC LT's and prochamber....and i'm doing them myself

price i'll be paying for installation= FREE

twest · March 2nd, 2009, 05:33 PM

how hard is the install, how long would it take and what tools would I need? Also it will definitely need a tune, so can I drive it to the shop to do so after the install?

beefmobile · March 2nd, 2009, 05:43 PM

i would reserve an entire weekend.

first, are you changing the springs and retainers?

tools for both cam and exhaust installs: (without springs and retainers)

friends
spring compressor
muscles
wedge
socket set
torque wrench (one that reads as low as at least 89 inch/lbs, and a regular one that readsft/lbs)
extensions
jack/lift
jackstands
o2 estensions
relative skill
time
powdercoating shop (if you want your cam covers powdercoated like i did)
beer

guys feel free to add

twest · March 2nd, 2009, 05:49 PM

is there a need to change the springs and retainers with the hot rod cams? I am relatively novice when it comes to working on cars although I did do my UDP's, shifter and suspension with the help of a friend

beefmobile · March 2nd, 2009, 05:59 PM

im not sure about hot rods and springs, but the thing about hot rods is that they idle like a mean bitch, but don't put down as much as the NSRs (no springs required) like i have...but those dont idle as lopey/rough. More go, less show.

whatever you do, buy from 07StangGt, or --RAD Mustangs--

you'll get the best prices fo sho, just PM him first.

Mickey · March 2nd, 2009, 06:16 PM

I have the mods you listed and I put down 364rwhp 361rwtq...345rwhp 341rwtq SAE

beefmobile · March 2nd, 2009, 06:21 PM

that who listed

navyman8903 · March 2nd, 2009, 06:44 PM

I can't wait to get everything.

07stanggt · March 2nd, 2009, 06:45 PM

No you dont need springs or retainers with hot rod cams. Just the cams and phaser bolts.

I would guess you should gain at least 40hp with hot rods and long tubes together. I gained 42 with long tubes and cams.

I also just got a new local distributor for FRPP stuff so i can do some hot rod cams now for a little better price then before, shipping them out myself and stuff.

either way should be a nice combo.

beefmobile · March 2nd, 2009, 06:46 PM

rich, got a list of new stuff?

*intersted*

07stanggt · March 2nd, 2009, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by beefmobile

rich, got a list of new stuff?

*intersted*

anything from FRPP. blower, cams, gears, suspension, CAI, cosmetic stuff, drivetrain, axle assemblies ETC. I cant think of what else they make for our car.

Mickey · March 2nd, 2009, 06:51 PM

I gained about 60rwhp with longtubes and spr stage II cams

navyman8903 · March 2nd, 2009, 07:00 PM

I am hoping to gain 60 hp from the cams and 40 from the heads. hehehehe

07stanggt · March 2nd, 2009, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by navyman8903

I am hoping to gain 60 hp from the cams and 40 from the heads. hehehehe

79 from cams, heads, long tubes and delete plates here.

But good luck on those goals, im a 3v beleiver.

navyman8903 · March 2nd, 2009, 07:08 PM

I am hoping to pull some trickey tricks. To get my 400hp

March 2nd, 2009, 03:55 PM	#1
twest Regular 2011 Mustang GT/CS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 230 iTrader: 0 reviews	cams, longtubes and prochamber..tell me what you think!! I am thinking about doing the mac longtubes and o/r prochamber with the frpp hot rod cams, what kind or rwhp gains can I expect with my current setup and the shop I called said $1100-1200 install price which to me sounds steep, is this the going rate? He said that it would be $740 without the cam install which still sounds high....what do you guys think? __________________ 2011 Race Red Mustang GT/CS...3.73 gears, Steeda CAI, Evolution Performance Tune, Flowmaster Hushpower exhaust=BEAST

March 2nd, 2009, 05:00 PM	#2
rakkassan34 Regular 2005 GT 13.5 best to date Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 157 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you have the cash and not the time go for it. If it's the other way around DIY. Just get it done so we can hear that bad boy. Average HP gains are 30rwhp with hot rod cams and long tubes __________________ Off road pro chamber, JLT II, tune by Bamachips, 4.10's, thumper cams, sunburst orange stripes

March 2nd, 2009, 05:33 PM	#7
twest Regular 2011 Mustang GT/CS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 230 iTrader: 0 reviews	how hard is the install, how long would it take and what tools would I need? Also it will definitely need a tune, so can I drive it to the shop to do so after the install? __________________ 2011 Race Red Mustang GT/CS...3.73 gears, Steeda CAI, Evolution Performance Tune, Flowmaster Hushpower exhaust=BEAST Last edited by twest; March 2nd, 2009 at 05:36 PM.

March 2nd, 2009, 05:49 PM	#9
twest Regular 2011 Mustang GT/CS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 230 iTrader: 0 reviews	is there a need to change the springs and retainers with the hot rod cams? I am relatively novice when it comes to working on cars although I did do my UDP's, shifter and suspension with the help of a friend __________________ 2011 Race Red Mustang GT/CS...3.73 gears, Steeda CAI, Evolution Performance Tune, Flowmaster Hushpower exhaust=BEAST

March 2nd, 2009, 06:16 PM	#11
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have the mods you listed and I put down 364rwhp 361rwtq...345rwhp 341rwtq SAE __________________ Under Construction

March 2nd, 2009, 05:01 PM	#3
unlicensed to drive MM Fanatic Blank Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,733 iTrader: 1 reviews	My local tuner quoted 450 or so for longtubes and about 500 for NSR cams. So the price would be about 1,200-1,300 with tuning. Dynotunes here are 300 so I'm basing the tuning costs off of that.

March 2nd, 2009, 05:03 PM	#5
unlicensed to drive MM Fanatic Blank Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,733 iTrader: 1 reviews	315 is pretty high for his amount of mods. I wonder if he got dynoed w/o a correction factor.

March 2nd, 2009, 06:45 PM	#14
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	No you dont need springs or retainers with hot rod cams. Just the cams and phaser bolts. I would guess you should gain at least 40hp with hot rods and long tubes together. I gained 42 with long tubes and cams. I also just got a new local distributor for FRPP stuff so i can do some hot rod cams now for a little better price then before, shipping them out myself and stuff. either way should be a nice combo.

March 2nd, 2009, 06:51 PM	#17
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	I gained about 60rwhp with longtubes and spr stage II cams __________________ Under Construction

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