NSR Stage II comp cam install! HELP!

QTRHORSE · March 10th, 2009, 08:35 PM

Im gonna install the NSR stage II cams myself! I have rebuilt the old 5.0 ( my 93 fox ) myself so Im no stranger to the mechanic side but know jack shit bout these 3v engines! Do I need special tools? Does anyone have a link to directions for the install? Any advice & help would be great, DOs and DONTs on the install. Heard I have to replace the cam bolts or something? Let me have it!!!!

navyman8903 · March 10th, 2009, 08:39 PM

RICH!!!!!!!!! where are you????

rakkassan34 · March 10th, 2009, 09:28 PM

You don't need special tools. It's really easy. There are alot of write ups on how to do it. Only word of warning from my experience is to check the three small tension pins holding the reluctor to the cam phaser. If any of those are missing or the reluctor is loose get new tension pins.

07stanggt · March 10th, 2009, 09:41 PM

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ch-center.html

There is the write up.

Yes you need to replace the phaser bolts.

You could use a spring compressor and the timing chain wedge or some guys do it without, if you have two people you could do it without. beefmobile didnt use a wedge or compressor.

You need a in-lb torque wrench.

I think thats it.

usafimj · March 10th, 2009, 10:03 PM

you'll need 2 cam phaser bolts, ft-lb torque wrench, a friend to help you out

Mickey · March 10th, 2009, 11:40 PM

tools:

-valve spring compressor
-timing chain wedge

tony311 · March 11th, 2009, 08:17 AM

good luck with the install

07 STROKER · March 11th, 2009, 09:32 AM

i did it by myself...totaly do-able with the tools.

Anthony05GT · March 11th, 2009, 06:28 PM

You should have the timing chain wedge and the valve spring compressor. I know some guys do it without the spring compressor, but the cam journal caps are torqued to 89 inch lbs and to get that torque figure correct you can't have any of the valves open at all. You don't want any upward pressure on the cam journal caps while torquing the bolts. The upward pressure will mess with your torque setting. Since the engine uses no cam bearings at all this torque figure is extremely important. The compressor is used to remove 3 rockers (cam followers) per side so no valves are open. I know some guys have claimed to have a big fat fuck push down on the camshaft while the other guy torques the bolts. I guess it's possible...haven't tried that before.

QTRHORSE, if you need a timing chain wedge I have them real cheap (new tools) Just PM me. I don't have compressors for sale.

07 STROKER · March 11th, 2009, 10:18 PM

awsome point on that torques spec being off cause of spring pressure....never though to that but sounds correct. i removed the followers.

Anthony05GT · March 11th, 2009, 11:19 PM

They wouldn't have you take them off in the repair manual if it didn't matter. I could see if the bolts were torqued to 50 ft lbs or something, but 89 inch lbs is very light.

07 STROKER · March 11th, 2009, 11:58 PM

its like 7 ish foot pounds

March 10th, 2009, 08:35 PM	#1
QTRHORSE Regular 2008 Mustang GT 11.35@123 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Johnson City Posts: 382 iTrader: 0 reviews	NSR Stage II comp cam install! HELP! Im gonna install the NSR stage II cams myself! I have rebuilt the old 5.0 ( my 93 fox ) myself so Im no stranger to the mechanic side but know jack shit bout these 3v engines! Do I need special tools? Does anyone have a link to directions for the install? Any advice & help would be great, DOs and DONTs on the install. Heard I have to replace the cam bolts or something? Let me have it!!!!

March 10th, 2009, 09:28 PM	#3
rakkassan34 Regular 2005 GT 13.5 best to date Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 157 iTrader: 0 reviews	You don't need special tools. It's really easy. There are alot of write ups on how to do it. Only word of warning from my experience is to check the three small tension pins holding the reluctor to the cam phaser. If any of those are missing or the reluctor is loose get new tension pins. __________________ Off road pro chamber, JLT II, tune by Bamachips, 4.10's, thumper cams, sunburst orange stripes

March 10th, 2009, 10:03 PM	#5
usafimj I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 Ford Mustang GT 12.847 @ 114.12mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok. Posts: 5,086 iTrader: 1 reviews	you'll need 2 cam phaser bolts, ft-lb torque wrench, a friend to help you out __________________ 07 GT-- Gone But Not Forgotten Military Crew E-5

March 10th, 2009, 11:40 PM	#6
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	tools: -valve spring compressor -timing chain wedge __________________ Under Construction

March 11th, 2009, 08:17 AM	#7
tony311 Regular 2006 mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 70 iTrader: 0 reviews	good luck with the install __________________ JLT CAI, Xcal3 tune, Steeda UDP, FRPP shorty headers, Flowmaster exhaust, Comp cams NSR StageII, FRPP 3.73 gears

March 10th, 2009, 09:41 PM	#4
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ch-center.html There is the write up. Yes you need to replace the phaser bolts. You could use a spring compressor and the timing chain wedge or some guys do it without, if you have two people you could do it without. beefmobile didnt use a wedge or compressor. You need a in-lb torque wrench. I think thats it.

March 11th, 2009, 09:32 AM	#8
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	i did it by myself...totaly do-able with the tools. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

March 11th, 2009, 06:28 PM	#9
Anthony05GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,462 iTrader: 1 reviews	You should have the timing chain wedge and the valve spring compressor. I know some guys do it without the spring compressor, but the cam journal caps are torqued to 89 inch lbs and to get that torque figure correct you can't have any of the valves open at all. You don't want any upward pressure on the cam journal caps while torquing the bolts. The upward pressure will mess with your torque setting. Since the engine uses no cam bearings at all this torque figure is extremely important. The compressor is used to remove 3 rockers (cam followers) per side so no valves are open. I know some guys have claimed to have a big fat fuck push down on the camshaft while the other guy torques the bolts. I guess it's possible...haven't tried that before. QTRHORSE, if you need a timing chain wedge I have them real cheap (new tools) Just PM me. I don't have compressors for sale. __________________ JDM 302 Stroker, Whipple 10 rib 12 psi, L&M, JBA, J&M, LFP, Corsa, BBR Stage II cams, Manley, MGW, McLeod RST, Metco, Steeda, Autometer, CDC, Street Scene, SOS, Tuned at JPC Racing by Kevin MacDonald

March 11th, 2009, 10:18 PM	#10
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	awsome point on that torques spec being off cause of spring pressure....never though to that but sounds correct. i removed the followers. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

March 11th, 2009, 11:19 PM	#11
Anthony05GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,462 iTrader: 1 reviews	They wouldn't have you take them off in the repair manual if it didn't matter. I could see if the bolts were torqued to 50 ft lbs or something, but 89 inch lbs is very light. __________________ JDM 302 Stroker, Whipple 10 rib 12 psi, L&M, JBA, J&M, LFP, Corsa, BBR Stage II cams, Manley, MGW, McLeod RST, Metco, Steeda, Autometer, CDC, Street Scene, SOS, Tuned at JPC Racing by Kevin MacDonald

March 11th, 2009, 11:58 PM	#12
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	its like 7 ish foot pounds __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

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