Safe

AMmuslGT · March 19th, 2009, 02:35 AM

What is the safest supercharger setup for our cars? i know the new edelbrock one only runs like 6lbs of boost and makes like 450hp. ive been lookin at a lot of them like paxton, kb, procharger, and saleen. just curious on how much hp some of them make at how much boost.

Mickey · March 19th, 2009, 03:34 AM

the edelbrock unit isnt performing as expected...notice how not a single damn person posts results on a stock motor like ours? tillman has had nothing but trouble with them, they were way over-hyped

I would look at Techco, Saleen, or Whipple...The Techco unit put down 446rwhp @ 6psi

They actually post their numbers and dont hide shit and shoot it to you straight, that is why I support them and will wear their banner on my car

navyman8903 · March 19th, 2009, 05:22 AM

i would get a paxton, vortech, saleen or techco.

chad05gt · March 19th, 2009, 07:59 AM

all are safe as long as shortblock/valvetrain arent pushed

hp and rpm kill these motors...

Emay · March 19th, 2009, 08:39 AM

Pick a charger and get on the dyno with a good tuner. As Chad said, none of them are unsafe, unless you put them in the wrong hands or push the limits purposely.

GTPONY1 · March 19th, 2009, 08:45 AM

I agree with the above statements from Emay/Chad, pick a charger based on what you want to use it for...you can search this forum for the endless debates on which one is the best for what purpose.

Then get a good tuner and shoot for conservative/safe tune for your setup.

You'll be happy with whatever you pick and longevitiy is based on tune and your right foot.

Anthony05GT · March 19th, 2009, 08:57 AM

Having an experienced tuner is the most important thing with F/I. I like the Whipple and this Techco blower is looking to be the cat's balls. Saleen uses a Whipple compressor just mounted upside down to send the air charge up, then down through extra long intake runners. Roush and Edelbrock use the new Eaton TVS compressor which has a nice looking inlet design which keeps internal pressures to a minimum.
I think the Techco will make the most power per lb of boost just by looking at the design of the system. Centrifugals will put less stress on the engine during normal driving as they don't really produce boost at lower rpm's. They will however create high stress in the upper rpm range as that's where they really produce the bulk of their power. Turbocharging is probably the least offensive to a stock bottom end because they are not stressing the crankshaft and using hp to make hp with a belt drive.

07 STROKER · March 19th, 2009, 09:24 AM

My spoon is to big!.............I am a BANANA!

AnimalCrackers · March 19th, 2009, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by 07 procharger

My spoon is to big!.............I am a BANANA!

wth...

Silly hats only....

big +1 on having a good tuner and not pushing the limits on the unit. They will all run similar stress to the car, it's just in how it's tuned.

AMmuslGT · March 19th, 2009, 12:11 PM

tuesday is coming.. did you remember your coat?

k cool thanks guys thats what i needed to know. i keep telling my friends im gonna save up for a supercharger and he's like you better save up for throwing rods too. what does he know he drives a mercedes lol

07 STROKER · March 19th, 2009, 12:14 PM

my anus is bleeding...

AnimalCrackers · March 19th, 2009, 12:19 PM

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THAT IS HOLY!!!

Won't throw any rods taking it safe and keeping the boost/power at manageable levels. Only reason a rod would be thrown, is if it would have failed regardless of the power output, plenty of people have put tons of miles on their FI setups with absolutely no engine issues. Just research your tuner carefully, be sure they're the right guys to tune the car.

NastyFX4 · March 19th, 2009, 12:55 PM

The Roush TVS is extremely dangerous, do not buy it. I want to be one of the few and the proud.

Grabber523 · March 19th, 2009, 01:12 PM

Excessive revs will kill off your rods faster than boost. I've got over 30,000 miles since I installed my KB, the tune needs a tweak, and I beat it like it owes me money...everything in the engine is still where Ford put it.

Mickey · March 19th, 2009, 01:28 PM

very few people throw a rod with a blower on these cars...the ones that do are for a reason...

JakeM · March 19th, 2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey

very few people throw a rod with a blower on these cars...the ones that do are for a reason...

That first part is so not true........ There are quite a few people that have thrown rod's with forced induction............ The people that seem to have good luck are the ones that have either put there car in the hands of a VERY professional tuner or just plain got lucky. Anytime your car is pushing 100+hp over stock your playing with fire. No matter what.

Smoothgrandmama · March 19th, 2009, 01:44 PM

Nu uh. . . .

Mickey · March 19th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Towelly

That first part is so not true........ There are quite a few people that have thrown rod's with forced induction............ The people that seem to have good luck are the ones that have either put there car in the hands of a VERY professional tuner or just plain got lucky. Anytime your car is pushing 100+hp over stock your playing with fire. No matter what.

show me two people who have blown their motor without pushing stupid amounts of boost or power...kthxbai

NastyFX4 · March 19th, 2009, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey

show me two people who have blown their motor without pushing stupid amounts of boost or power...kthxbai

Come on Mickey. I'm seriously thinking you're trying to joke around here ... There are many cases of bent rods at 10-12 psi which isn't a stupid amount. It's a chance we all take. Just look at Willy, was running something like 11 psi with a turbo, had a spot on dyno tune from Justin at VMP Tuning, and he bent a rod. No other damage. It just goes to show you that there are tolerance differences in the rods from the OEM.

JakeM · March 19th, 2009, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey

show me two people who have blown their motor without pushing stupid amounts of boost or power...kthxbai

Ok...... SUHleen, a member here (blown motor I think a rod. at 10PSI Saleen Blower stock everything else) and Clyde on ModularFords ( EJECTED two rod's at 10PSI Saleen installed and tuned by JDM WITH GT500 pumps! ).

March 19th, 2009, 02:35 AM	#1
AMmuslGT Baby Punchin' Champ 2008 Mustang GT I have a toy Pony. He takes Big shits Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gilbert, Az Near phoenix Posts: 1,857 iTrader: 0 reviews	Safe What is the safest supercharger setup for our cars? i know the new edelbrock one only runs like 6lbs of boost and makes like 450hp. ive been lookin at a lot of them like paxton, kb, procharger, and saleen. just curious on how much hp some of them make at how much boost. __________________ Mods In garage

March 19th, 2009, 03:34 AM	#2
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	the edelbrock unit isnt performing as expected...notice how not a single damn person posts results on a stock motor like ours? tillman has had nothing but trouble with them, they were way over-hyped I would look at Techco, Saleen, or Whipple...The Techco unit put down 446rwhp @ 6psi They actually post their numbers and dont hide shit and shoot it to you straight, that is why I support them and will wear their banner on my car __________________ Under Construction

March 19th, 2009, 08:39 AM	#5
Emay May 08 ROTM 2008 Audi S6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: S. Elgin Posts: 6,683 iTrader: 3 reviews	Pick a charger and get on the dyno with a good tuner. As Chad said, none of them are unsafe, unless you put them in the wrong hands or push the limits purposely. __________________ FLICKR Unique Imagery

March 19th, 2009, 08:45 AM	#6
GTPONY1 Regular 2006 Mustang GT 539rwhp / 482rwtq Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Decatur, IL Posts: 333 iTrader: 0 reviews	I agree with the above statements from Emay/Chad, pick a charger based on what you want to use it for...you can search this forum for the endless debates on which one is the best for what purpose. Then get a good tuner and shoot for conservative/safe tune for your setup. You'll be happy with whatever you pick and longevitiy is based on tune and your right foot. __________________

March 19th, 2009, 08:57 AM	#7
Anthony05GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,462 iTrader: 1 reviews	Having an experienced tuner is the most important thing with F/I. I like the Whipple and this Techco blower is looking to be the cat's balls. Saleen uses a Whipple compressor just mounted upside down to send the air charge up, then down through extra long intake runners. Roush and Edelbrock use the new Eaton TVS compressor which has a nice looking inlet design which keeps internal pressures to a minimum. I think the Techco will make the most power per lb of boost just by looking at the design of the system. Centrifugals will put less stress on the engine during normal driving as they don't really produce boost at lower rpm's. They will however create high stress in the upper rpm range as that's where they really produce the bulk of their power. Turbocharging is probably the least offensive to a stock bottom end because they are not stressing the crankshaft and using hp to make hp with a belt drive. __________________ JDM 302 Stroker, Whipple 10 rib 12 psi, L&M, JBA, J&M, LFP, Corsa, BBR Stage II cams, Manley, MGW, McLeod RST, Metco, Steeda, Autometer, CDC, Street Scene, SOS, Tuned at JPC Racing by Kevin MacDonald

March 19th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#8
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	My spoon is to big!.............I am a BANANA! __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

March 19th, 2009, 12:11 PM	#10
AMmuslGT Baby Punchin' Champ 2008 Mustang GT I have a toy Pony. He takes Big shits Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gilbert, Az Near phoenix Posts: 1,857 iTrader: 0 reviews	tuesday is coming.. did you remember your coat? k cool thanks guys thats what i needed to know. i keep telling my friends im gonna save up for a supercharger and he's like you better save up for throwing rods too. what does he know he drives a mercedes lol __________________ Mods In garage

March 19th, 2009, 12:14 PM	#11
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	my anus is bleeding... __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

March 19th, 2009, 12:19 PM	#12
AnimalCrackers Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 12.6@110 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,210 iTrader: 0 reviews	FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THAT IS HOLY!!! Won't throw any rods taking it safe and keeping the boost/power at manageable levels. Only reason a rod would be thrown, is if it would have failed regardless of the power output, plenty of people have put tons of miles on their FI setups with absolutely no engine issues. Just research your tuner carefully, be sure they're the right guys to tune the car. __________________ Professor Crackers

March 19th, 2009, 12:55 PM	#13
NastyFX4 Made in U.S.A. 2011 F150 FX4 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 16,006 iTrader: 9 reviews	The Roush TVS is extremely dangerous, do not buy it. I want to be one of the few and the proud. __________________

March 19th, 2009, 01:12 PM	#14
Grabber523 Your Mom's Favorite 2007 Mustang GT Eats Chevys, Shits Imports... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scott AFB, Illinois Posts: 2,490 iTrader: 0 reviews	Excessive revs will kill off your rods faster than boost. I've got over 30,000 miles since I installed my KB, the tune needs a tweak, and I beat it like it owes me money...everything in the engine is still where Ford put it. __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...p-vote-me.html TEAM RICER GT CREW MEMBER (11 SECOND RIDE WITH A 12 SECOND DRIVER) MEMBERS AGAINST MEMBERS AGAINST STUFF CREW FOUNDER TRUNK MONKEY CREW FOUNDER

March 19th, 2009, 01:28 PM	#15
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	very few people throw a rod with a blower on these cars...the ones that do are for a reason... __________________ Under Construction

March 19th, 2009, 01:44 PM	#17
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