Help on new CAI install

KaotikGT · March 26th, 2009, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by 2006GTARPD3

Posibility I guess. How would you know?

how would i know what?

KaotikGT · March 26th, 2009, 04:53 PM

oh the tune, i don't know that's why i asked 1 dumbass point for me on that one

qwik48r · March 26th, 2009, 05:13 PM

man the maf is a very sensative 5v system... I hope you used the same exact size wire and soldered it very well.. any spike in voltage or lack of PCM refernced voltage will send the PCM into "limp mode" which is what sounds like your activing. basically the ecm cuts back timing to nothing, enables a very low rev limit and dumps extra fuel.. if you have drivin the car like this, chances are the plugs are already fouled. I think the critisim people have given you about the WMS system are very constructive and accurate.. the system is simple to invasive for a bolt on car... I mean really.. moving the coolant resivour and splicing the maf? no thank you...

are you sure the maf is oriented in the correct way (as in correct way for air flow? arrow pointing to the motor?)

ANY variation in maf housing on these new s197 MUST HAVE A TUNE!!!!!!! NO QUESTIONS! the maf caliberation stock IS NOT forgiving.

good luck, and retrace your steps, get a damn tune.

islander033 · March 26th, 2009, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by qwik48r

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ANY variation in maf housing on these new s197 MUST HAVE A TUNE!!!!!!! NO QUESTIONS! the maf caliberation stock IS NOT forgiving.

good luck, and retrace your steps, get a damn tune.

This sure is a 'happy' place to hang out at.....lol.

This biggest complaint about the WMS is the installation, otherwise it seems like a good product.

Perhaps it shouldn't be sold as a bolt on system.

Ruthless GT350 · March 26th, 2009, 06:56 PM

yes sir, a tune would fix your issue. had a buddy go thru the same prob. once he got the tune. car ran great!
good luck!

KaotikGT · March 26th, 2009, 07:27 PM

I have no more issues found a broke wire lights went bye bye. For some guys that tear into a car y'all freaking about cutting 6 wires. But my question is how can I tell if the car has a tune other than stock put in by the previous owner.

qwik48r · March 26th, 2009, 11:37 PM

hmmm.. ford could tell you I believe once they hook up to the diagnostic's computer.. at least it will tell you if its flashed.. I would get it RETUNED though because who knows where your afr is now. those cast aluminum pistons are not forgiving..

I think your misunderstanding my point man. wire's have different resistence... which can affect a signal as low as 5v's pretty easily.

I'm not bashing the system by any means.. I love way the WMS systems look!!!

KaotikGT · March 27th, 2009, 06:16 AM

no i completely understand, just i just take it lightly because i work with that stuff for a living i was just wondering if it's got a tune in it that i'm unaware of will another tune be able to be downloaded

KaotikGT · March 27th, 2009, 05:31 PM

yeah how messed up is it i can put on a supercharger with zero problems, install a nitous kit like it's nothing but cann't get a simple CAI right

BLACJAC · March 27th, 2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by KaotikGT

dude i'm not asking for your opioin on a CAI i'm asking for help with this intake, if anyone else has it on here and what they did not your 2 cents about what intake you think is better

THE problem is in ur splice job,i ran cai from modular mustang racing , tthat ended up needing a tune ,when they assured me it did not, anyway, mine ran lean , and the cel came on ,code said bank one ,bank two running lean , but i never had a problem with a wrench light or not being able to go over 3500 rpms , so this more then just a lean code. so did u get the codes read???

06RedfireGT · March 27th, 2009, 08:53 PM

her name is ponie, if you have nothing constructive to add, please keep quiet.

March 26th, 2009, 04:53 PM	#42
KaotikGT Regular 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Roanoke, Va Posts: 221 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh the tune, i don't know that's why i asked 1 dumbass point for me on that one __________________ Cervini's type iv hood, C-series bumper, Pypes mid-muffler exhaust, WMS CAI, 20" chrome wheels, Roush rear spoiler

March 26th, 2009, 05:13 PM	#43
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	man the maf is a very sensative 5v system... I hope you used the same exact size wire and soldered it very well.. any spike in voltage or lack of PCM refernced voltage will send the PCM into "limp mode" which is what sounds like your activing. basically the ecm cuts back timing to nothing, enables a very low rev limit and dumps extra fuel.. if you have drivin the car like this, chances are the plugs are already fouled. I think the critisim people have given you about the WMS system are very constructive and accurate.. the system is simple to invasive for a bolt on car... I mean really.. moving the coolant resivour and splicing the maf? no thank you... are you sure the maf is oriented in the correct way (as in correct way for air flow? arrow pointing to the motor?) ANY variation in maf housing on these new s197 MUST HAVE A TUNE!!!!!!! NO QUESTIONS! the maf caliberation stock IS NOT forgiving. good luck, and retrace your steps, get a damn tune. __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

March 26th, 2009, 06:56 PM	#45
Ruthless GT350 Newbie 2008 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 reviews	yes sir, a tune would fix your issue. had a buddy go thru the same prob. once he got the tune. car ran great! good luck! __________________ 12.2

March 26th, 2009, 07:27 PM	#46
KaotikGT Regular 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Roanoke, Va Posts: 221 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have no more issues found a broke wire lights went bye bye. For some guys that tear into a car y'all freaking about cutting 6 wires. But my question is how can I tell if the car has a tune other than stock put in by the previous owner. __________________ Cervini's type iv hood, C-series bumper, Pypes mid-muffler exhaust, WMS CAI, 20" chrome wheels, Roush rear spoiler

March 26th, 2009, 11:37 PM	#47
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	hmmm.. ford could tell you I believe once they hook up to the diagnostic's computer.. at least it will tell you if its flashed.. I would get it RETUNED though because who knows where your afr is now. those cast aluminum pistons are not forgiving.. I think your misunderstanding my point man. wire's have different resistence... which can affect a signal as low as 5v's pretty easily. I'm not bashing the system by any means.. I love way the WMS systems look!!! __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

March 27th, 2009, 06:16 AM	#48
KaotikGT Regular 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Roanoke, Va Posts: 221 iTrader: 0 reviews	no i completely understand, just i just take it lightly because i work with that stuff for a living i was just wondering if it's got a tune in it that i'm unaware of will another tune be able to be downloaded __________________ Cervini's type iv hood, C-series bumper, Pypes mid-muffler exhaust, WMS CAI, 20" chrome wheels, Roush rear spoiler

March 27th, 2009, 05:31 PM	#49
KaotikGT Regular 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Roanoke, Va Posts: 221 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah how messed up is it i can put on a supercharger with zero problems, install a nitous kit like it's nothing but cann't get a simple CAI right __________________ Cervini's type iv hood, C-series bumper, Pypes mid-muffler exhaust, WMS CAI, 20" chrome wheels, Roush rear spoiler

March 27th, 2009, 08:53 PM	#51
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	her name is ponie, if you have nothing constructive to add, please keep quiet. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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