Tremec 3650

tqualman · May 7th, 2009, 01:48 AM

What is the difffrence between the 2004 Tremec 3650 and the 2005 Tremec 3650?

06VistaBlueGT · May 7th, 2009, 08:25 AM

I believe there are some internal differences along with the 2004 being a top loader and the 05+ being remote shifted.

tqualman · May 7th, 2009, 09:39 AM

Can a top loader be converted to a remote shifter or will I need a whole new transmission. Im planning a swap of a 2004 Mach1 drivetrain in to my 2005 Mustang v6 and want to know if this will be a issue.

06GTMustang89 · May 7th, 2009, 02:00 PM

the casing for hte TR3650 for the 2005+ is completely different from the 99-04' models. The 04' tranny will not be able to convert into your S197. Its because its a top loader and ours is a remote the output shaft portion of the tranny is completely different and would require a custom fabbed shifter to make it work costing you more money...

19COBRA93 · May 7th, 2009, 02:02 PM

Another big difference is the 04 trans is cable operated and the 05 is hydraulic. The trans case is entirely different between the two years. I really don't think one will work in place of the other.

EDIT: ^^^Beat me to it.

silverstang · May 7th, 2009, 02:21 PM

guys he said he is swapping an entire drivetrain out of a mach1, so yeah you can make it work. It will be a pain in the ass to fab everything up and get it working RIGHT, but you might get away with it. MAYBE

19COBRA93 · May 7th, 2009, 02:39 PM

It would be a lot easier to just pickup an 05 GT trans and bolt it to the back of the Mach motor. Trying to fab up an 04 trans to work in an 05 would be too much work when 05 transmissions can be picked up anywhere.

tqualman · May 7th, 2009, 08:13 PM

I thought the 05 GT did not have the Hydraulic Clutch, also will a 05 Manual tyranny bolt up to the Bell housing? I’m getting a good price on a totaled 2004 mach1 with 25k miles and i know it s going to cost allot above and beyond the donor car but when it’s done I will have a 05 mach1 with shaker hood. Plus I got the v6 for cheap and the difference between the cost of a V6 and a GT is at least 6K

19COBRA93 · May 7th, 2009, 08:41 PM

The bellhousing on both model years don't separate from the case. All 05 up GT's are hydraulic clutches. An 05 trans assembly will bolt up to the Mach motor no problem and will have all the right stuff to work in your V6 body.

Also, the block is different between the two years so the motor mounts won't bolt up. I understand there is an adaptor kit you can use that allows you to bolt up the 05 mounts to an 04 and older block.

May 7th, 2009, 01:48 AM	#1
tqualman Newbie 2005 Mustang V6 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lisle, IL Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	Tremec 3650 What is the difffrence between the 2004 Tremec 3650 and the 2005 Tremec 3650?

May 7th, 2009, 08:25 AM	#2
06VistaBlueGT Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT 12.76@105 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stark County, Ohio Posts: 869 iTrader: 0 reviews	I believe there are some internal differences along with the 2004 being a top loader and the 05+ being remote shifted. __________________ MM Bracket Racing Crew Member #1 TH350, B&M Ratchet Shifter, 4000RPM Stall, JLT2, O/R X, Cherry Bombs, 4.56's, line locks, Prothane Engine Mounts, BMR LCA's, Lakewood UCA, BMR rad support with Sway delete, CHE K-member brace

May 7th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#4
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	the casing for hte TR3650 for the 2005+ is completely different from the 99-04' models. The 04' tranny will not be able to convert into your S197. Its because its a top loader and ours is a remote the output shaft portion of the tranny is completely different and would require a custom fabbed shifter to make it work costing you more money... __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

May 7th, 2009, 02:02 PM	#5
19COBRA93 Newbie 2003 Twin Turbo Cobra 10.77@131 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	Another big difference is the 04 trans is cable operated and the 05 is hydraulic. The trans case is entirely different between the two years. I really don't think one will work in place of the other. EDIT: ^^^Beat me to it. Last edited by 19COBRA93; May 7th, 2009 at 02:07 PM.

May 7th, 2009, 02:21 PM	#6
silverstang Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BFE Posts: 2,821 iTrader: 0 reviews	guys he said he is swapping an entire drivetrain out of a mach1, so yeah you can make it work. It will be a pain in the ass to fab everything up and get it working RIGHT, but you might get away with it. MAYBE __________________ Bassani Crew Member #3

May 7th, 2009, 09:39 AM	#3
tqualman Newbie 2005 Mustang V6 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lisle, IL Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	Can a top loader be converted to a remote shifter or will I need a whole new transmission. Im planning a swap of a 2004 Mach1 drivetrain in to my 2005 Mustang v6 and want to know if this will be a issue.

May 7th, 2009, 02:39 PM	#7
19COBRA93 Newbie 2003 Twin Turbo Cobra 10.77@131 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	It would be a lot easier to just pickup an 05 GT trans and bolt it to the back of the Mach motor. Trying to fab up an 04 trans to work in an 05 would be too much work when 05 transmissions can be picked up anywhere. __________________ Mineral Grey 05 GT GT500 Clone Mineral Grey 03 Cobra THP Twin Turbo 10.77 @ 131

May 7th, 2009, 08:13 PM	#8
tqualman Newbie 2005 Mustang V6 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lisle, IL Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	I thought the 05 GT did not have the Hydraulic Clutch, also will a 05 Manual tyranny bolt up to the Bell housing? I’m getting a good price on a totaled 2004 mach1 with 25k miles and i know it s going to cost allot above and beyond the donor car but when it’s done I will have a 05 mach1 with shaker hood. Plus I got the v6 for cheap and the difference between the cost of a V6 and a GT is at least 6K

May 7th, 2009, 08:41 PM	#9
19COBRA93 Newbie 2003 Twin Turbo Cobra 10.77@131 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	The bellhousing on both model years don't separate from the case. All 05 up GT's are hydraulic clutches. An 05 trans assembly will bolt up to the Mach motor no problem and will have all the right stuff to work in your V6 body. Also, the block is different between the two years so the motor mounts won't bolt up. I understand there is an adaptor kit you can use that allows you to bolt up the 05 mounts to an 04 and older block. __________________ Mineral Grey 05 GT GT500 Clone Mineral Grey 03 Cobra THP Twin Turbo 10.77 @ 131

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