[FLA Dreadhead]

http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...gine-cams.html

i was looking at them and i would obvisouly think that the higher the stage the better, so why are they the same price then...?

[Norse1974]

You know,,Thats a damn good question!

[FLA Dreadhead]

yeah i kno and im waiting for an explanation!

[Norse1974]

LOL!

[TheUNZippee!]

I would think that grinding a cam, is grinding a cam.There isn't a lot of difference in the amount of material used, or type of material, it's all about the extremely expensive computers & machines used to grind those bad boys out.

[AF_COP]

i wonder what they mean by...

"Noticable idle change"

[sonicblue]

just cause its a higher number doesnt mean its the best cam for your car. the higher numbers require supporting mods to go with it. but as far as the same cost i would agree with above..grinding a cam is grinding a cam

[F4iMerlin]

Originally Posted by AF_COP i wonder what they mean by... "Noticable idle change"

Go to streetfire.net and do a search for "VT stage", you will find some stangs with the stage 2 cams and will be able to hear that sweet "noticeable idle". It refers to the lope produced by the higher duration.
The cams are priced the same because you cannot just go to a stage 3 hoping for the best results. You must buy a cam that is matched to your engine/mods. Therefore, one cam stage is not "better" than the others, they are just matched to your mods.

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by FLA Dreadhead http://www.lethalperformance.com/pages-main/category-576_812_827/05-07-mustang-gt-engine-cams.html i was looking at them and i would obvisouly think that the higher the stage the better, so why are they the same price then...?

Why should they be more expensive? Just because the cam is a "higher stage" doesn't mean it is going to make more horsepower. Usually grinding a cam costs the same no matter what the cam specs are.

[TheUNZippee!]

Originally Posted by AF_COP i wonder what they mean by... "Noticable idle change"

Would mean how rough the idle of your car is, and perhaps even having to have a higher idle once you start getting into more serious grinds.The larger the lobe on the cam, the more the valve opens, the more air/fuel you get into the cylinder.This makes more power but causes a rougher idle.Also, as you open the valves more, you start getting into other things like valve overlap, which is the time during which the intake & exhaust valves are open at the same time.You also start increasing duration,the amount of time the valve is open.All these, plus many other far more complicated cam dynamics can contribute to your rougher idle.This is one of the reasons why the more your car leans towards the race side of things, the less streetable it becomes.You can also start getting into vacuum issues,although I'm not sure if vacuum even comes into play on these newer cars?

[JohnnyZ]

If you are looking for some cams for your S197 stang also check out these.

http://www.blowbyracing.com/bcamshaftsb.html

[m4444]

I have the comp stage 3's, and even though rough idle is stated in the description, I find them to be very mild. I've had them for a month and nobody has noticed I have cams on or made a comment on how the car idles. If you're looking for a lopey sound get the bbr's.

[06dkkiser]

stage one is low low RPMS, stage two for like like mid low to high mid, and stage 3 like mid to really high lol.... its all based on what you need.. stage 2 might be good with gears since gears increase your low rpms and then stage 2 or 3 cam will help increase the power all the way up to 2600-6800. which is the stage 3.. i think stage 2 is like 2300-6300 or something.. stag one is like2000- 5800 or something... I am just guessing on the RPM numbers, but this is how i understand it. But I am no expert though.

[06dkkiser]

then you can get custom grinds made specifically for your application, like some blower or turbo cam's.. NA cams, ect... which is really the best choice if you know what your future plans are

[Drgnracin72]

Originally Posted by m4444 I have the comp stage 3's, and even though rough idle is stated in the description, I find them to be very mild. I've had them for a month and nobody has noticed I have cams on or made a comment on how the car idles. If you're looking for a lopey sound get the bbr's.

i find this to be BS. the comp 3s are very lopey and wont run good in a otherwise stock car. too big of a cam. probably hurt ya more than anything. i have the stage 2s and they are very lopey and noticiable. the stage 3 s are crazy. my stage 2s also dont start making power till 3500 so the stage 3s i bet dont start till around 4grand or maybe higher. and prob rev to 7500 rpms

[m4444]

Originally Posted by drgnracin72 Originally Posted by m4444 I have the comp stage 3's, and even though rough idle is stated in the description, I find them to be very mild. I've had them for a month and nobody has noticed I have cams on or made a comment on how the car idles. If you're looking for a lopey sound get the bbr's. i find this to be BS. the comp 3s are very lopey and wont run good in a otherwise stock car. too big of a cam. probably hurt ya more than anything. i have the stage 2s and they are very lopey and noticiable. the stage 3 s are crazy. my stage 2s also dont start making power till 3500 so the stage 3s i bet dont start till around 4grand or maybe higher. and prob rev to 7500 rpms

haha call that whatever you want. no1 has made a comment on wether i even have cams or not when they hear how my car idle's. my car isn't stock, many bolt-ons plus a turbo kit. have you got the stage 2's on a 2005+ gt or on the older mustangs, i read some comments on the stage 3's on people who actually have them installed before i went and baught them, all of them have mentioned that the idle is barely noticeable. and I spoke to Brent from Brenspeed and he told me he has them installed and they're mild. you can even read the review here: http://www.brenspeed.com/tech/compcams.html , the way he describes it is by using the term "VERY" mild idle. now can you call that BS?