What for the kill?

Jucostud · January 31st, 2007, 03:08 PM

My best friend has a 2003 lightning with a CAI. I have an '07 mustang gt stock with the 3.55's. What do I need to do to be able to beat him. I won't race him untill i reach 3,000 miles on the car so that gives me a couple weeks to buy some mods. I will switch to royal purple at 3,000 miles also.

Norse1974 · January 31st, 2007, 04:07 PM

A set of 3:90-4:30 gears would do it!Also a CAI & tune also would do it!

MaverickMLFD371 · January 31st, 2007, 04:40 PM

you would need another 100HP since he's running a blower!

Jucostud · January 31st, 2007, 05:11 PM

he's running a c&l cai and he said it gave him an extra 4 boost. I'm not gonna get gears yet since i have plains of FI later. I have a manual so i don't want 4:10's. since i have 3.55's i don't see going to 3.73's much of a change to do it anytime soon. So my only hope is an extra 100 horse... I guess i should just save up for a blower to put me over 400hp.

flattusmaximus78 · February 1st, 2007, 06:18 AM

Well they might be supercharged but thats just to make up for the 1 ton weight difference. If you can really drive your car you should be at his rear tires with the nose of your car.

MaverickMLFD371 · February 1st, 2007, 08:33 AM

I took on an lightning at the racetrack when I first got my 05 stang two years ago. he had a C&L intake and tune.

all I had was a K&N intake, pullies and an axleback exhaust, and I lost to him twice! about a car & 1/4 length. even if I had a C&L intake or a JLT with an intake, I would still have probably lost.

BWAL · February 1st, 2007, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

Well they might be supercharged but thats just to make up for the 1 ton weight difference. If you can really drive your car you should be at his rear tires with the nose of your car.

1 ton weight difference?? i'd imagine the lightning would be in the weight range or even a little lighter than the mustang

Jucostud · February 1st, 2007, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by BWAL09

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

Well they might be supercharged but thats just to make up for the 1 ton weight difference. If you can really drive your car you should be at his rear tires with the nose of your car.

1 ton weight difference?? i'd imagine the lightning would be in the weight range or even a little lighter than the mustang

I don't know how much they weigh, but i know my friend always talks about how light his back end is.

BWAL · February 1st, 2007, 09:46 AM

yeah, it is hard to get traction to the rear wheels on a truck because there is no weight back there

Jucostud · February 1st, 2007, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by BWAL09

yeah, it is hard to get traction to the rear wheels on a truck because there is no weight back there

thats why maybe i thought i had a chance to get him off the line with a couple mods.

BWAL · February 1st, 2007, 06:09 PM

thats true, as some of the best drag racers in the world say "its no problem getting enough power to win the race, the problem is getting enough traction"

his truck will most likely spin unless he

1) is a very good driver

or

2) gets smart and puts something heavy in the back, like sand bags

forensicsteve · February 4th, 2007, 09:34 AM

Lightning weighs over 4500 lbs. I borrowed my mechanic's 99 Lightning last week for a couple of days while he had my car. Doesn't take much to get them into the 12s. His best is 12.3 for the 1/4

HMUSN · February 4th, 2007, 09:42 AM

just get a decent shot of nitrous and some sticky tires. that should even up the odds a bit

Jucostud · February 4th, 2007, 01:47 PM

no nitrous for me. I will be getting better rims and tires soon though.

TheUNZippee! · February 4th, 2007, 04:23 PM

The mustang weighs roughly around 3750 lbs with you in it, and like forensicsteve said, if the lightning weighs about 4500,there is only about an 800 lb wight difference, not a ton. Figure you need roughly 10 horse to make up for every 100 lbs of added weight, so take it from there. If his lightning has say 430 horse after a few mods, and your stang has 300 stock, taking into account the ROUGHLY extra 80 horse he needs to compensate for his extra weight, you're looking at having to make up 50 horse to get your car on an even par with his truck.

Jucostud · February 4th, 2007, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee!

The mustang weighs roughly around 3750 lbs with you in it, and like forensicsteve said, if the lightning weighs about 4500,there is only about an 800 lb wight difference, not a ton. Figure you need roughly 10 horse to make up for every 100 lbs of added weight, so take it from there. If his lightning has say 430 horse after a few mods, and your stang has 300 stock, taking into account the ROUGHLY extra 80 horse he needs to compensate for his extra weight, you're looking at having to make up 50 horse to get your car on an even par with his truck.

I can always count on TheUNZippee to give me an answer! Maybe i should just stop posting and just start PMing theunzippee.

Thanks rick!

TheUNZippee! · February 4th, 2007, 11:01 PM

lol my pleasure bro

January 31st, 2007, 03:08 PM	#1
Jucostud booooost'd 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: drink'n ur kool-aid Posts: 7,043 iTrader: 0 reviews	What for the kill? My best friend has a 2003 lightning with a CAI. I have an '07 mustang gt stock with the 3.55's. What do I need to do to be able to beat him. I won't race him untill i reach 3,000 miles on the car so that gives me a couple weeks to buy some mods. I will switch to royal purple at 3,000 miles also. __________________ Jucostud's Official Build Thread 1988 LX HATCH 5.0 - FOR SALE $5,000 OBO 2007 vortech gt - SOLD! Looking for next project

January 31st, 2007, 04:40 PM	#3
MaverickMLFD371 Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,462 iTrader: 0 reviews	you would need another 100HP since he's running a blower! __________________ 2005 Ford Mustang GT - Sonic Blue FRPP/Whipple Supercharger Intercooled 495 RWHP / 504 RWTQ SAE Corrected @ 11psi Tuned by Kevin @ Wicked Motorsports

January 31st, 2007, 05:11 PM	#4
Jucostud booooost'd 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: drink'n ur kool-aid Posts: 7,043 iTrader: 0 reviews	he's running a c&l cai and he said it gave him an extra 4 boost. I'm not gonna get gears yet since i have plains of FI later. I have a manual so i don't want 4:10's. since i have 3.55's i don't see going to 3.73's much of a change to do it anytime soon. So my only hope is an extra 100 horse... I guess i should just save up for a blower to put me over 400hp. __________________ Jucostud's Official Build Thread 1988 LX HATCH 5.0 - FOR SALE $5,000 OBO 2007 vortech gt - SOLD! Looking for next project

February 1st, 2007, 06:18 AM	#5
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,121 iTrader: 3 reviews	Well they might be supercharged but thats just to make up for the 1 ton weight difference. If you can really drive your car you should be at his rear tires with the nose of your car. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

February 1st, 2007, 09:46 AM	#9
BWAL MSTRB8N & MDR8N 2021 Mustang V15 Quad Turbo with nawz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On The Shaft Posts: 19,640 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 4 reviews	yeah, it is hard to get traction to the rear wheels on a truck because there is no weight back there __________________ MM 1 am boner crew Cars and mod list in garage i like veiny meat sliding between my buttcheeks

January 31st, 2007, 04:07 PM	#2
Norse1974 Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 275 iTrader: 0 reviews	A set of 3:90-4:30 gears would do it!Also a CAI & tune also would do it!

February 1st, 2007, 08:33 AM	#6
MaverickMLFD371 Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,462 iTrader: 0 reviews	I took on an lightning at the racetrack when I first got my 05 stang two years ago. he had a C&L intake and tune. all I had was a K&N intake, pullies and an axleback exhaust, and I lost to him twice! about a car & 1/4 length. even if I had a C&L intake or a JLT with an intake, I would still have probably lost.

February 1st, 2007, 06:09 PM	#11
BWAL MSTRB8N & MDR8N 2021 Mustang V15 Quad Turbo with nawz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On The Shaft Posts: 19,640 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 4 reviews	thats true, as some of the best drag racers in the world say "its no problem getting enough power to win the race, the problem is getting enough traction" his truck will most likely spin unless he 1) is a very good driver or 2) gets smart and puts something heavy in the back, like sand bags __________________ MM 1 am boner crew Cars and mod list in garage i like veiny meat sliding between my buttcheeks

February 4th, 2007, 09:34 AM	#12
forensicsteve Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,283 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lightning weighs over 4500 lbs. I borrowed my mechanic's 99 Lightning last week for a couple of days while he had my car. Doesn't take much to get them into the 12s. His best is 12.3 for the 1/4

February 4th, 2007, 09:42 AM	#13
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,047 iTrader: 10 reviews	just get a decent shot of nitrous and some sticky tires. that should even up the odds a bit __________________

February 4th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#14
Jucostud booooost'd 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: drink'n ur kool-aid Posts: 7,043 iTrader: 0 reviews	no nitrous for me. I will be getting better rims and tires soon though. __________________ Jucostud's Official Build Thread 1988 LX HATCH 5.0 - FOR SALE $5,000 OBO 2007 vortech gt - SOLD! Looking for next project

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