TR3650 Limits?

Kuro · July 15th, 2009, 05:23 PM

What are the limits on the stock TR3650?

Anything you can do yo make them handle a little more?

algx · July 15th, 2009, 06:22 PM

Give it a little less?

NastyFX4 · July 15th, 2009, 07:58 PM

I believe they are rated at 350 rwtq but there are a LOT of us who have way more than that and they are holding up. I'm currently pushing 475+ rwtq through it with zero problems.

Kuro · July 15th, 2009, 08:27 PM

Think an engine putting down 380 with an additional 175 shot would be to much?

2006greyGT · July 15th, 2009, 10:07 PM

I am making 550 and 585tq and have had no issue.

Kuro · July 15th, 2009, 10:09 PM

Do you think a stage 2+ clutch would be okay for my application?

And your TR3650 is stock and handling that?

07stanggt · July 15th, 2009, 10:13 PM

I think its more to do with setup and usage. I mean, 600 rwhp on radials, your not hooking, your not really shocking or straining anything, just smoking rubber.

400hp on slicks dumping the clutch at 5k. You're putting a beating to things.

let us know when you break it. Mine seems to have held up well.

Emay is the only NON straight drag racer that i know that has damaged the 3650 and that was a 5th to 3rd downshift at 80 i think with 500hp to the wheels and a 4.10 rear. Ask him about it. He cracked some things.

Kuro · July 15th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Well most of the abuse is most likely going to occur from a roll, I really don't plan on dropping the clutch at 5k from a dig

NastyFX4 · July 15th, 2009, 11:20 PM

I agree. Most of the abuse is going to be from full on drag slicks and high RPM dumps on a well prepped track. The times that I've pulled a ~1.7 I dead hooked and had great track prep. Otherwise with poor track prep I can only manage around 2.0 60's with off idle launches otherwise it's just spinning for the first 330'..

algx · July 16th, 2009, 08:05 AM

Power shifting (specially 1-2) would put some strain as well.
To a lesser degree than dumping and dead hooking thou...

Kuro · July 16th, 2009, 09:47 AM

Im talking about 3rd gear rolls.

05mustang_TT_charged · July 16th, 2009, 11:33 AM

been beating the hell out of mine with 600 rwhp with drag radials for over a year.

scramblr · July 18th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

Emay is the only NON straight drag racer that i know that has damaged the 3650 and that was a 5th to 3rd downshift at 80 i think with 500hp to the wheels and a 4.10 rear. Ask him about it. He cracked some things.

How in the hell does someone go from 5th to 3rd...racing from a roll? Sure hope it wasn't from missing 4th.

IronStomach · July 18th, 2009, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by scramblr

How in the hell does someone go from 5th to 3rd...racing from a roll? Sure hope it wasn't from missing 4th.

Ever try to punch it when going 50-ish mph? 4th won't cut it.

How in the heck do you hit 3rd by missing 4th though? One's on top of the other....

scramblr · July 18th, 2009, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by EfylSetaf

Ever try to punch it when going 50-ish mph? 4th won't cut it.

How in the heck do you hit 3rd by missing 4th though? One's on top of the other....

It works with 4.10s and 450rwtq.

And that's why I was asking how he went from 5th to 3rd. Can't see it happening unless he did it on purpose.

Emay · July 18th, 2009, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by scramblr

How in the hell does someone go from 5th to 3rd...racing from a roll? Sure hope it wasn't from missing 4th.

It was done outright on purpose trying to hold off my brothers cobra that's got me by a hundred horse.

I also believe the drive shaft may have been out of balance in that pass and helped finish off the tail shaft. It shuttered on the initial hit, but was one of the worse sounds I have heard coming to the top of 4th. The shaft went in for balancing after the damage just to be sure all was okay and it was 1/4 ounce out (super significant at 6200 rpm).

Anyway, I see plenty of 550-600hp cars rolling the trans as is with upgraded clutches and they hold just fine.

Here's the shots of my breakage last year:

Kuro · July 18th, 2009, 10:01 PM

damn... Did you just replace it with another TR3650? Or go to a TR6060?

NastyFX4 · July 18th, 2009, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by scramblr

How in the hell does someone go from 5th to 3rd...racing from a roll? Sure hope it wasn't from missing 4th.

I downshift to 3rd at 70 but I do have stock 3.55s so that makes a difference but 4th just doesn't count it for highway pulls.

scramblr · July 19th, 2009, 03:50 AM

Holy crap, way to go man!!!

ia07gt · July 19th, 2009, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Kuro

damn... Did you just replace it with another TR3650? Or go to a TR6060?

I think the 3650 is underated.

July 15th, 2009, 05:23 PM	#1
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July 15th, 2009, 07:58 PM	#3
NastyFX4 Made in U.S.A. 2011 F150 FX4 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 16,010 iTrader: 9 reviews	I believe they are rated at 350 rwtq but there are a LOT of us who have way more than that and they are holding up. I'm currently pushing 475+ rwtq through it with zero problems. __________________

July 15th, 2009, 08:27 PM	#4
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 895 iTrader: 0 reviews	Think an engine putting down 380 with an additional 175 shot would be to much? __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

July 15th, 2009, 10:07 PM	#5
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July 15th, 2009, 10:09 PM	#6
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 895 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do you think a stage 2+ clutch would be okay for my application? And your TR3650 is stock and handling that? __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

July 15th, 2009, 10:13 PM	#7
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	I think its more to do with setup and usage. I mean, 600 rwhp on radials, your not hooking, your not really shocking or straining anything, just smoking rubber. 400hp on slicks dumping the clutch at 5k. You're putting a beating to things. let us know when you break it. Mine seems to have held up well. Emay is the only NON straight drag racer that i know that has damaged the 3650 and that was a 5th to 3rd downshift at 80 i think with 500hp to the wheels and a 4.10 rear. Ask him about it. He cracked some things. Last edited by 07stanggt; July 15th, 2009 at 10:16 PM.

July 15th, 2009, 10:21 PM	#8
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 895 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well most of the abuse is most likely going to occur from a roll, I really don't plan on dropping the clutch at 5k from a dig __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

July 15th, 2009, 11:20 PM	#9
NastyFX4 Made in U.S.A. 2011 F150 FX4 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 16,010 iTrader: 9 reviews	I agree. Most of the abuse is going to be from full on drag slicks and high RPM dumps on a well prepped track. The times that I've pulled a ~1.7 I dead hooked and had great track prep. Otherwise with poor track prep I can only manage around 2.0 60's with off idle launches otherwise it's just spinning for the first 330'.. __________________

July 16th, 2009, 09:47 AM	#11
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 895 iTrader: 0 reviews	Im talking about 3rd gear rolls. __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

July 16th, 2009, 11:33 AM	#12
05mustang_TT_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 10.32@137.70 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 2,774 iTrader: 0 reviews	been beating the hell out of mine with 600 rwhp with drag radials for over a year. __________________ 350 rwhp and 310 rwtq at 6000 rpms through stock exhaust system 326 cubic inches of Twin Turbocharged hell will be running soon Tuned by Wes @ TPS

July 18th, 2009, 10:01 PM	#17
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 895 iTrader: 0 reviews	damn... Did you just replace it with another TR3650? Or go to a TR6060? __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

July 19th, 2009, 03:50 AM	#19
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