Little disappointed.

ken5_0 · September 2nd, 2009, 10:06 AM

If you are going to put a KenneBell supercharger on your 3 valve... Go with the intercooler at the get go! Installed Stage 1 on an 06 Gt for a customer without the intercooler.... 305HP at the wheels. Has an Automatic and Exhaust thats it but come on! $4500 and 40 hp? Thats with their tune! And their tunes are dead on. That I will give them. Customer was happy but I was alittle disappointed! Hate to have the guy go up against an NA Camaro

Damn I hate those things!!! Glad my Stang will run circles around em!!!

NastyFX4 · September 2nd, 2009, 10:07 AM

Regardless of it not being intercooled those are some really low numbers ...

TheUNZippee! · September 2nd, 2009, 10:11 AM

What kind of dyno?

What psi?

That's not right even if he was running just 4 or 5 psi.... maybe 4 psi and it's a Mustang dyno. I'm making 282 just with a basic tune and intake. Many guys make 290+ with just that.

Smeltzs · September 2nd, 2009, 10:15 AM

I would think it should be pushing at least high 300's to the wheels?

TheUNZippee! · September 2nd, 2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Smeltzs

I would think it should be pushing at least high 300's to the wheels?

On a dynojet, with a good tune, on a cool day, at 5-ish psi it should push around 350-370 with the non-intercooled unit. Easily.

Emay · September 2nd, 2009, 10:26 AM

Glenns bordered 400 on the standard pulley kenne sends non-intercooled. Sounds like the tunes off, dyno's off, or someones very lost..

Seeing better numbers than that on 100 degree days with lots of timing pull.

1FastFox · September 2nd, 2009, 10:26 AM

Something is wrong there... General rule of thumb is 10whp per psi. He should be in the high 300s/low 400s on a 10psi pulley.

TheUNZippee! · September 2nd, 2009, 10:28 AM

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DiMora · September 2nd, 2009, 10:55 AM

I agree, something is askew.

A little Roushcharger / Eaton M90 lays down 370 or so with stock pulley at 5 PSI...and it is a tiny little blower compared to a KB twin screw - even if the KB is non-intercooled.

Have you called KB to ask them for target HP numbers on that setup?

What's the rest of the story...Dynojet dyno? Mustang Dyno? Heat soaked or cooled before final "numbers" run? SAE numbers, correct? A/F ratio?

stanglifemike · September 2nd, 2009, 11:54 AM

wow, something os definately off. I put down over 300rwhp on a MustangDyno with a few bolt-ons

Trick Tuners · September 2nd, 2009, 11:55 AM

Don't always trust the KB tunes. Sometimes they are great, and sometimes they are junk. Its tricky to provide canned tunes that work perfect on all cars. Thats why there are custom tuners. Post up a datalog of the pull and i'll go over it. Maybe the bypass was open!!

Ace417 · September 2nd, 2009, 12:01 PM

hey someone else used the dyno Ken did LOL

2006GTARPD3 · September 2nd, 2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Ace417

hey someone else used the dyno Ken did LOL

Lol i was just thinking that.....

THEYTOOKOURJOBS!!!

hellbred07 · September 2nd, 2009, 03:26 PM

That is wrong, i made around 369 to 379rwhp w/my non intercooled kit 2.6l that i ran for over a year w/all sorts of issues.So that guys kit definately has an issue.I think the bypass valve can affect power levels if its stuck open correct me if i am wrong.Hope you also changed his plugs to heat range cooler and made sure the maf is wired up right.Hope you retorqued those manifold bolts at least 5 times to ensure proper seating because this kit can be a pain,great kit but a lot of little details were left out,some would say differently.Not second guessing your abilities but i have dealt with this kit first hand and know that kb does command a fuel mixture of 11.1 but my problem was maf curve if i said that right so the car was leaning out while it should of been right on spot.Lots of little varialbles.

September 2nd, 2009, 10:06 AM	#1
ken5_0 Regular 1990 GT Convert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Prescott WI Posts: 203 iTrader: 0 reviews	Little disappointed. If you are going to put a KenneBell supercharger on your 3 valve... Go with the intercooler at the get go! Installed Stage 1 on an 06 Gt for a customer without the intercooler.... 305HP at the wheels. Has an Automatic and Exhaust thats it but come on! $4500 and 40 hp? Thats with their tune! And their tunes are dead on. That I will give them. Customer was happy but I was alittle disappointed! Hate to have the guy go up against an NA Camaro Damn I hate those things!!! Glad my Stang will run circles around em!!!

September 2nd, 2009, 10:07 AM	#2
NastyFX4 Made in U.S.A. 2011 F150 FX4 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 16,010 iTrader: 9 reviews	Regardless of it not being intercooled those are some really low numbers ... __________________

September 2nd, 2009, 10:15 AM	#4
Smeltzs Regular 2006 mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bellefonte, PA Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would think it should be pushing at least high 300's to the wheels? __________________ 2006 Mustang GT Performance White,Painted Stripes, Cervini's Duck Tail Wing, 20" Shelby Razors (gun Metal) Whipple HO supercharged, Autometer Cobalt gauges, SLP Loudmouths, Hurst Shifter 501 RWHP 459TQ Tuning by SGS Automotive

September 2nd, 2009, 10:26 AM	#6
Emay May 08 ROTM 2008 Audi S6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: S. Elgin Posts: 6,683 iTrader: 3 reviews	Glenns bordered 400 on the standard pulley kenne sends non-intercooled. Sounds like the tunes off, dyno's off, or someones very lost.. Seeing better numbers than that on 100 degree days with lots of timing pull. __________________ FLICKR Unique Imagery

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1FastFox Skirt Chasing Phallus Phondler Kit Car/Ducati/Explorer Nike Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,460 iTrader: 4 reviews	Something is wrong there... General rule of thumb is 10whp per psi. He should be in the high 300s/low 400s on a 10psi pulley. __________________ QUOTE OF THE DAY (5/24/12): “I not only use all the brains that I have, but all I can borrow.” -- Woodrow Wilson

September 2nd, 2009, 10:55 AM	#9
DiMora More Is Better. 2006 Roush Stage 1 Blown Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Acworth, GA Posts: 2,911 iTrader: 1 reviews	I agree, something is askew. A little Roushcharger / Eaton M90 lays down 370 or so with stock pulley at 5 PSI...and it is a tiny little blower compared to a KB twin screw - even if the KB is non-intercooled. Have you called KB to ask them for target HP numbers on that setup? What's the rest of the story...Dynojet dyno? Mustang Dyno? Heat soaked or cooled before final "numbers" run? SAE numbers, correct? A/F ratio? __________________ Roush Short shifter / Carmen's 3.47" TVS pulley Roush TVS Supercharger Steeda suspension /Big Brakes Mac L/T's / Prochamber / Roush Extremes KB BAP "Daily Driver" RWHP: 492@9 PSI w/ LT's "Dyno Queen": 512@12 PSI-stock exhaust Mods in Garage Last edited by DiMora; September 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 AM.

September 2nd, 2009, 11:54 AM	#10
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	wow, something os definately off. I put down over 300rwhp on a MustangDyno with a few bolt-ons __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

September 2nd, 2009, 11:55 AM	#11
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,467 iTrader: 3 reviews	Don't always trust the KB tunes. Sometimes they are great, and sometimes they are junk. Its tricky to provide canned tunes that work perfect on all cars. Thats why there are custom tuners. Post up a datalog of the pull and i'll go over it. Maybe the bypass was open!! __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

September 2nd, 2009, 03:26 PM	#14
hellbred07 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: va Posts: 791 iTrader: 0 reviews	That is wrong, i made around 369 to 379rwhp w/my non intercooled kit 2.6l that i ran for over a year w/all sorts of issues.So that guys kit definately has an issue.I think the bypass valve can affect power levels if its stuck open correct me if i am wrong.Hope you also changed his plugs to heat range cooler and made sure the maf is wired up right.Hope you retorqued those manifold bolts at least 5 times to ensure proper seating because this kit can be a pain,great kit but a lot of little details were left out,some would say differently.Not second guessing your abilities but i have dealt with this kit first hand and know that kb does command a fuel mixture of 11.1 but my problem was maf curve if i said that right so the car was leaning out while it should of been right on spot.Lots of little varialbles.

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