Boost-A-Pump or GT500 Fuel Pump?

stanglifemike · September 17th, 2009, 07:14 PM

So who here is running what? I think a boost a pump is about $250 and the gt500 is $800. Is the boost a pump safe at 10psi and 450 rwhp? Thanks for any help guys and your experiences would be great.

DiMora · September 17th, 2009, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by stanglifemike

So who here is running what? I think a boost a pump is about $250 and the gt500 is $800. Is the boost a pump safe at 10psi and 450 rwhp? Thanks for any help guys and your experiences would be great.

It is absolutely safe.

I run a BAP. Kenne Bell says a BAP is good up to the same horsepower rating as GT500 pumps without a BAP: 600 HP.

Here is the source document. KB has tested it. People bash the BAP because they know nothing about it. I would set it up so the BAP runs full time instead of running via the pressure activated switch.

http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...gtTechTips.pdf

07stanggt · September 17th, 2009, 07:35 PM

GT500 pump. Its not 800, its 699 retail.

usafimj · September 17th, 2009, 07:36 PM

You can get the GT500 fuel kit for $621 from Tousley Ford

07stanggt · September 17th, 2009, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by usafimj

You can get the GT500 fuel kit for $621 from Tousley Ford

Whip de do.

usafimj · September 17th, 2009, 07:43 PM

My bad. Didn't know you had already posted a price

07stanggt · September 17th, 2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by usafimj

My bad. Didn't know you had already posted a price

LOL. Im just joking. Ford racing I know im getting beat. thats why i said 699retail, of course he can beat that.

Hopefully he realizes thats the way to go.

07 STROKER · September 17th, 2009, 08:48 PM

BAP FTW...oh wait I run the FRPP GT500 fuel pumps.....I got ripped off by Rich on them

bigpappy33 · September 17th, 2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by 07 STROKER

BAP FTW...oh wait I run the FRPP GT500 fuel pumps.....I got ripped off by Rich on them

suckaaaa

2006greyGT · September 17th, 2009, 09:48 PM

I run the BAP with 545 rwhp... well I should say I did run it... hey I will sell you mine if you want... I had meth injection that fucked up and I spun another rod bearing due to a vapor lock.. I am going with the GT500 pumps because I intend to be over 650 with a 100 wet shot.. give you a good deal on it an help me with the cost of my pumps... never had an issue with the bap setup.

07stanggt · September 17th, 2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by 2006greyGT

I run the BAP with 545 rwhp... well I should say I did run it... hey I will sell you mine if you want... I had meth injection that fucked up and I spun another rod bearing due to a vapor lock.. I am going with the GT500 pumps because I intend to be over 650 with a 100 wet shot.. give you a good deal on it an help me with the cost of my pumps... never had an issue with the bap setup.

/thread

Grabber523 · September 17th, 2009, 10:03 PM

BAP, 460 street tune with PLENTY of fuel to spare.

2006greyGT · September 17th, 2009, 10:08 PM

did I break a rule or something 07?

DiMora · September 17th, 2009, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

/thread

What does that mean?

07stanggt · September 17th, 2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by 2006greyGT

did I break a rule or something 07?

Im just messing with you.

Personally, I wouldnt get a blower and then get a BAP. Its a band aid. All you are doing is working your stock fuel pump harder all the time right? Realizing that its setup to work at 40% capacity I think? I guess the argument is that there is plenty of room. But why does ford set it up to only work at 40%. And why just make the pump work harder all the time.

Just a personal opinoin of mine really. I could be wrong as its not really a issue for me so i have not thought about it a great deal.

07stanggt · September 17th, 2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by DiMora

What does that mean?

LOL I think it means end thread. Like enough said. I could be wrong though, i see other people do it and i copied.

07stanggt · September 17th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Plus im assuming if one thing goes wrong with the BAP, or the fuel pump hiccups from the overwork, then you are screwed right? Just seems like more to go wrong. if im speding the money for a blower why not get a bigger fuel pump and keep it underworked with less parts to mess up.

05RedDevil · September 17th, 2009, 10:24 PM

It all depends on your ultimate power goals. I have had no issues using a KB BAP with my current set-up with 462rwhp but I'm switching to a GT500 dual fuel pump with a dual BAP for my upcoming plans

DiMora · September 17th, 2009, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

Im just messing with you.

Personally, I wouldnt get a blower and then get a BAP. Its a band aid. All you are doing is working your stock fuel pump harder all the time right? Realizing that its setup to work at 40% capacity I think? I guess the argument is that there is plenty of room. But why does ford set it up to only work at 40%. And why just make the pump work harder all the time.

Just a personal opinoin of mine really. I could be wrong as its not really a issue for me so i have thought about it a great deal.

Go to KB and read about the BAP. It really is cool. I don't really see it as a bandaid - they are simply optimizing what the GT pump is already fully capable of, but can't do due to fluctuating low voltage without the BAP.

The reason Ford sets it up that way is cost. It would take a lot of wire (or a dedicated voltage regulator like KB supplies) to make the pump run more efficiently...Ford has it set up so it runs on whatever voltage the vehicle is producing. With the BAP, you get full optimum voltage to the pump all the time regardless of battery voltage...but the duty cycle of the pump is actually LESS.

So you are getting MORE fuel with LESS duty cycle with the BAP vs. without.

http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/ge...heory_kens.pdf

When would I add GT500 pumps? When I start getting into the high fives RWHP then I would add GT500 pumps AND a KB dual BAP so I don't run out of headroom.

Remember, a GT pump with a BAP flows as much fuel as a pair of GT500 pumps without.

DiMora · September 17th, 2009, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by 05RedDevil

It all depends on your ultimate power goals. I have had no issues using a KB BAP with my current set-up with 462rwhp but I'm switching to a GT500 dual fuel pump with a dual BAP for my upcoming plans

Bingo. My thoughts exactly.

September 17th, 2009, 07:14 PM	#1
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	Boost-A-Pump or GT500 Fuel Pump? So who here is running what? I think a boost a pump is about $250 and the gt500 is $800. Is the boost a pump safe at 10psi and 450 rwhp? Thanks for any help guys and your experiences would be great. __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

September 17th, 2009, 07:36 PM	#4
usafimj I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 Ford Mustang GT 12.847 @ 114.12mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok. Posts: 5,084 iTrader: 1 reviews	You can get the GT500 fuel kit for $621 from Tousley Ford __________________ 07 GT-- Gone But Not Forgotten Military Crew E-5

September 17th, 2009, 07:43 PM	#6
usafimj I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 Ford Mustang GT 12.847 @ 114.12mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok. Posts: 5,084 iTrader: 1 reviews	My bad. Didn't know you had already posted a price __________________ 07 GT-- Gone But Not Forgotten Military Crew E-5

September 17th, 2009, 08:48 PM	#8
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,933 iTrader: 0 reviews	BAP FTW...oh wait I run the FRPP GT500 fuel pumps.....I got ripped off by Rich on them __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

September 17th, 2009, 09:48 PM	#10
2006greyGT Premium Member 2006 Satin Silver GT 11.08@125.22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KC Posts: 2,950 iTrader: 0 reviews	I run the BAP with 545 rwhp... well I should say I did run it... hey I will sell you mine if you want... I had meth injection that fucked up and I spun another rod bearing due to a vapor lock.. I am going with the GT500 pumps because I intend to be over 650 with a 100 wet shot.. give you a good deal on it an help me with the cost of my pumps... never had an issue with the bap setup. __________________ 2.6l KENNE BELL 298 Stroker, Ported heads Pro Motion Built 3650/McLeod RST/ MGW Short Throw Long tube/O/R X /Borla Touring 8 rib/65 lb injectors/GT500 twin fuel ET Drag Slicks/3.73 gear Detroit Truetrac /CDC AGR Spoiler

September 17th, 2009, 07:35 PM	#3
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,951 iTrader: 1 reviews	GT500 pump. Its not 800, its 699 retail.

September 17th, 2009, 10:03 PM	#12
Grabber523 Your Mom's Favorite 2007 Mustang GT Eats Chevys, Shits Imports... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scott AFB, Illinois Posts: 2,487 iTrader: 0 reviews	BAP, 460 street tune with PLENTY of fuel to spare. __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...p-vote-me.html TEAM RICER GT CREW MEMBER (11 SECOND RIDE WITH A 12 SECOND DRIVER) MEMBERS AGAINST MEMBERS AGAINST STUFF CREW FOUNDER TRUNK MONKEY CREW FOUNDER

September 17th, 2009, 10:08 PM	#13
2006greyGT Premium Member 2006 Satin Silver GT 11.08@125.22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KC Posts: 2,950 iTrader: 0 reviews	did I break a rule or something 07? __________________ 2.6l KENNE BELL 298 Stroker, Ported heads Pro Motion Built 3650/McLeod RST/ MGW Short Throw Long tube/O/R X /Borla Touring 8 rib/65 lb injectors/GT500 twin fuel ET Drag Slicks/3.73 gear Detroit Truetrac /CDC AGR Spoiler

September 17th, 2009, 10:20 PM	#17
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,951 iTrader: 1 reviews	Plus im assuming if one thing goes wrong with the BAP, or the fuel pump hiccups from the overwork, then you are screwed right? Just seems like more to go wrong. if im speding the money for a blower why not get a bigger fuel pump and keep it underworked with less parts to mess up.

September 17th, 2009, 10:24 PM	#18
05RedDevil Regular 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 96 iTrader: 0 reviews	It all depends on your ultimate power goals. I have had no issues using a KB BAP with my current set-up with 462rwhp but I'm switching to a GT500 dual fuel pump with a dual BAP for my upcoming plans __________________ 462rwhp/ 446 ft-lbs

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