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srt4
My good friend just bought an srt4 and i need to stay ahead of him cause i cannot get shut down by a neon. So i wana modify soon so what would be my best approach with $2,000. Forced induction an option?
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u have a GT?
for 2k get some gears and good upper and lower control arms. and you'll be set. if you have a GT you should toast him stock for stock anyway
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sorry yeah its a gt but hes gonna be modified right away. (intake and exhaust at least)
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what gears should i go for cause i dont really wana top out at 130 which i think eliminates the 4.10
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you won't top out at 130 with 4:10's lol
i have been up to 140... 1st gear 30-35 2nd gear 55 3rd gear 80 4th 110-115 5th 140+ this is with the t-3650 tranny i have a t-56 now :wink
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i would go with 3.73 gears, long tube header, catless h pipe, stingers, cai, and an xcalibrator 2 and tune and you should eat him up!
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dont forget pullies too
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Screw that, just put some 285's on the back and hammer it.
I used to own an srt neon. I remember it was really really fun. However, compared to my mustang, it was only a little ankle biter. Stock...the mustang is in a different class from the neon. So if your friend is only doing intake and exhaust, why would you need to spend mega bucks on "3.73 gears, long tube header, catless h pipe, stingers, cai, and an xcalibrator 2 and tune..." (no disrespect intended). Traction is what you need. Upgrade all those other things after you finally achieve traction.[/i] |
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WTF is it with People thinking that 4.10's will kill the Top end on the S197's..
The gearing on the trannys and being a 5 speed drops the Calculated top end from 202 MPH to 168 MPH at 6800 RPM these cars are Limited by drag and power at around 155-160. I have had my Automatic GT up to 142 with still room to go with 4.10. These Cars love 4.10 heck I cut 4 tenths of the 1/4 with just 4.10's it's an awsome mod. if you have a manual you can see 12.9 easy with Gears, CAI, Pulleys and a tune. I am at 13.3 with these mods. and I know I can do better if "I" loose a few pounds. hehe Watch out for those Skittles (Neons and Cobolts) with some mods those things are killers.
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I wouldn't have thought you could make a neon as fast as a stock GT for less than 6 grand. I'm amazed to hear they can be that fast.
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To make one as fast as a stock GT you need 3K http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Neon-...slip-8618.html Stock Engine: 2.4L Turbos: stock Heads: stock LSP Boost Control @ 15 # 93 pump gas Stage 1 Computer Intake & Air Filter injen sri NGK gaped .35 Spark plugs borla cat-back exhaust Progress Suspension bfg kdw tires Some of the Fastest Neon SRT4 (30# boost) 2003 Dodge srt4 10.745 @ 129.900 http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Neon-...lip-11237.html 2004 dodge srt4 11.100 @ 128.380 http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Neon-...lip-11013.html 2003 dodge srt4 11.372 @ 126.989 http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Neon-...slip-4679.html The List http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes Some of the fastest Cobolt ss to Date 2006 Chevy Cobolt SS 12.940 @ 106.000 http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...slip-8596.html The List http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
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Just so we are clear. Stock for Stock the stang is much faster than an srt4. That is a 14.2 second car right? 0-60 in 5.4. CAI aint gonna have him faster than a stang.
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a stock SRT-4 can run as fast as 13.9 http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Neon-...slip-3009.html Stock Mustang GT 13.6 http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...slip-4200.html Dodge did a good job with that Skittle Motor, they dropped is because (IMO) Kids were getting them too fast and killing them selfs. but a CAI will not make a big difference. The Stage 1 Computer is 600.00 Boost controller ia 250.00 suspention (because FWD need traction ) 1000 CAI 250.00 Sticky tires Nittos or BFG 800.00 then he could beat you.
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I had one (SRT4) an 05. I droped 5k into it, from stage 2 upgrade to full 3" turbo back exhaust and MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more. At the point it was at when I traded it in it would eat a n/a stang for lunch, hell for that matter in the 1/4 vettes were no problem, so long as I could hook up. It would pull mid to low 12's on a bad day (depending on air temp and humidity). SO I guess my point is even stock (srt4) w/o a staged upgrade is a damn fast car, and a stock stang would have a fight (power-weight issue).
But Im glad I traded in the srt4 and got the stang. Best decision I ever made. At 40yrs old I got tired of being looked at as a little boy racer. |
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It should for 5k,if i put 5k into my stang it would eat a srt4,5k would get a stang gt up 2 almost 500 hp
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I guess that's true... if you get a REALLY good price somewhere you could get a blower stuck on there that could boost it up to 470 for probably more like 6k... but then you still have stock wheels, tires, and internals!
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Mike,
When you called the SR4T a neon, where you referring to the dc'd model, or sarcastically referring to the new Caliber? |
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he never said it was a new srt4 so i'm guessing it was a used neon
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Dodge's website puts the Caliber at 170ish horsepower. This article describes something very different. SR4T is Dodge's racing devision badge isn't it.
What is this article talking about??? http://www.topspeed.com/cars/dodge/d...t4-ar2118.html |
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