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5.4L forged iron short block in S197

thinking of buying FORD RACING 5.4L FORGED IRON SHORT BLOCK FOR FORCED INDUCTION -- M-6009-C54SC4 and putting it on an engine hoist and building a S/C 5.4L in my garage as I can afford parts but big concern first... would it fit into my 06' Gt lol. I don't know much about engine blocks and would hate to blow like 10-15 g's just to sell it

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From the website: "Will not work with 3 valve cylinder heads"

If you wanna go that route, pick up an Aluminator. Ford Racing Performance Parts
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From the website: "Will not work with 3 valve cylinder heads"

If you wanna go that route, pick up an Aluminator. Ford Racing Performance Parts
I saw that, I plan on selling off my 4.6L whole so all new 5.4L parts would be bought
EDIT: I think my problem is I love the new 5.4L engines and absolutely hate the new body styles...

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To answer your question yes the block will fit and you can use you factory motor mounts but you may have clearance issues with your hood if you do a twin screw, tvs, roots blower etc. If you do a centri or turbo build then you should be fine.

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TY Very Much! Knowing that it will fit is awesome. As for new mounts, perfect and if all else I can look into costs of new ones if it ends up being a hassle or if anyone knows of problems. I have fellow mustang owners that would be proud to do the same project as myself if we can get it all figured out

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Not sure I would replace a 4.6L aluminum block with a bigger 5.4L iron block. You'll be using some of that extra power to make up for the heavier engine.
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Then what would you suggest (w/ links please?) I thought it was big deal to get like forged block...

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Then what would you suggest (w/ links please?) I thought it was big deal to get like forged block...
If you're going to spend the money...

FORD RACING 4.6L 3V ALUMINUM SHORT BLOCK FOR SUPERCHARGED APPLICATIONS
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Go with a JDM block over the alluminator. Its a stroker block so it has a 5.0 displacement and its got stock compression which will help you keep the hp up without upping the boost to high.
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I'm actually trying to stick to the 5.4L if I can. Sadly can't find an aluminum 5.4L very quickly. I understand putting it in the '06 GT I'll need the gt500 crossmember

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Will the 5.4 fit in the 06? I thought Ford had to make some changes to the engine bay to make room for the 5.4 in the 2007 gt500?

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FOUND THE SON OF A BITCH I THINK
this look right?
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Then what would you suggest (w/ links please?) I thought it was big deal to get like forged block...
im not sure you can get a forged block? i know you can get a forged rotating assembly but i think your options for blocks are cast iron or aluminum.

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im not sure you can get a forged block? i know you can get a forged rotating assembly but i think your options for blocks are cast iron or aluminum.
What do you think of 5.4L ALUMINUM ENGINE BLOCK ? Think it can handle all the mods I want without a problem? GRRR *kicks blocks over*

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check these out there more durable and a lot cheaper
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check these out there more durable and a lot cheaper
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This what you referring to?

MMR 5.4 Street Mod 1000 (up to 900HP) 2V, 3V or 4V


*Cast Iron 5.4. Block Block , torque plate bored and Honed
*New 4340 Forged 4.165 stroke Crankshaft w/micro polished journals at no extra charge
*New 4340 6.658 Manley H-beam Rods ( These US made rods are shotpeened, magnafluxed and weight matched to bring you the finest H-beam rod available for your 5.4
*New Forged Manley pistons (High or low compression)
*Total Seal file fit rings (precision file fit to your application, nitrous, blower, turbo or N/A)
*Clevite Rod and Main bearings
*Complete Pro Assembly and Balancing for the smoothest, highest revving shortblock available, Pre-Lubricated with Royal Purple Assembly Lube and spin tested. Lastly 3 technicians sign off on your new engine prior to packaging and crating.

Shortblock Options:

Upgrade to 2011 GT500 Alloy block + $2499
Coated Pistons (ceramic dome/teflon skirt) $399.99
MMR Street/Racing Oil Pump (highly recommended) + $159.99
MMR/Felpro Extreme Duty Headgaskets + $169.99
ARP Headstuds +$289.99
ARP Mainstuds (recommended for 600+HP) + $189.99
ARP Main Cap Side bolt kit $79.99
MMR windage tray and hardware kit (+15HP) + $129.99

like I said I don't know much at all about blocks, I definitely need help on picking the right one. I need something light, able to handle the mods I want and room for upgrading in the future.

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i think that one is overkill this would be better suited to your needs and mmr can help you choose certain options based on your goals

MMR 5.4 Street Mod 900 (up to 900HP) 2V, 3V or 4V


*NEW Cast Iron 5.4 Block , torque plate bored and honed

*New 4340 4.165 Stroke Forged Crankshaft w/micro polished journals at no extra charge

*New MMR 4340 6.658 H-beam Rods

*New Forged Manley pistons, Low compression for Blower/turbo

*Total Seal file fit rings (precision file fit to your application, nitrous, blower, turbo or N/A)

*Clevite Performance Rod and Main bearings

*Complete Pro Assembly and Balancing for the smoothest, highest revving shortblock available, Pre-Lubricated with Royal Purple Assembly Lube and spin tested. Lastly 3 technicians sign off on your new engine prior to packaging and crating.

Shortblock Options:
Coated Pistons (ceramic dome/teflon skirt) $399.99
MMR Street/Racing Oil Pump (highly recommended) + $159.99
MMR/Felpro Extreme Duty Headgaskets + $169.99
ARP Headstuds +$289.99
ARP Mainstuds (recommended for 600+HP) +169.99
ARP Main Cap Side bolt kit $79.99
MMR windage tray and hardware kit (+15HP) + 129.99
ARP Main Cap Side bolt kit $79.99

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Thank You very much bro! I'd rep you again if I could. I don't like their

Due to the custom nature of MMR shortblocks ALL customers paying with a credit card
will be billed when the order is placed (prior to engine assembly and shipping),
All MMR shortblocks are non-refundable regardless if the item has shipped or not.

I kind of don't want some sort of crap job done or whatever or something busting like 20 miles down the road

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i completely understand but they're a very reputable company and sponsor some of the fastest cars in the industry.

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I like the idea of a 5.4L too and would like to see what a supercharged one would put out. I know they have a lot more torque than the 4.6L engines. I think the power will go up incrementally.

I wouldn't go with a Ford Racing "4.6L" 9.8:1 when there's a proven "5.0L" stroker with 9.8:1 compression.

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