L/T OR NOT TO L/T

hellbred07 · August 6th, 2007, 01:38 PM

Hey guys new to the forum does anybody know if long tubes are worth it, what gains would i see would the exhaust note change ihave an 07 gt and can't figure i should or should not install also have heard you lose low end torque.how are the macs

leebunnyz · August 6th, 2007, 01:46 PM

Longtubes are great from what i hear, probably give you round 10whp...macs are a good bang for your buck

1FastFox · August 6th, 2007, 01:56 PM

Macs are great, in my opinion... I would definitally do some LTs. But, you know you also have to replace the mid-pipe, as it wont fit up with LTs. Then if you replace the midpipe might as well put some mufflers on it. If your going to replace the mufflers you might as well get a cold air intake/tune combo. If your going to get a CAI/tune combo you might as well get a short throw, if your going to get a shorthrow, oh screw get a supercharger.
Just kidding about most of that non-sense. But yes I would go with LTs and also with Macs. I know alot of people on here have alot of opinions when it comes to exhaust. This is just mine...

06RedfireGT · August 6th, 2007, 01:56 PM

definetly LT.

stanglifemike · August 6th, 2007, 02:07 PM

L/T's are great for performence and sound, they're just a pain to install.

acehogg69 · August 6th, 2007, 02:28 PM

L/T's for sure! IMO Borlas!

Ho_Edge · August 6th, 2007, 03:38 PM

this is prolly a stupid question....do turbos and LTs not mix? i seem to remember somebody saying that they were selling / getting rid of their LTs because they were getting a turbo setup

thnx for not slapping me while answering this

1FastFox · August 6th, 2007, 03:42 PM

Turbos require manifolds and manifolds replace the headers... so no they dont mix...

06RedfireGT · August 6th, 2007, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by 1FastFox

Turbos require manifolds and manifolds replace the headers... so no they dont mix...

+1

RStrick0352 · August 6th, 2007, 05:42 PM

Uhhhhhhh...... Longtubes, DUH

Foxlynam · August 6th, 2007, 07:49 PM

But, isn't it true that you cannot Smog your car when you have L/T's? At least in CA, all the LT manufacturers state they are not CARB legal etc. So, is this wrong or...?

RStrick0352 · August 6th, 2007, 08:00 PM

YES you can still turbo your car with L/T's, all you have to do is use a rear mount turbo system like STS turbo's. I personally think its an engenious design as well, the spools are completely clear of the engine compartment so all that pesky heat is isolated. You should check them out I dont know the site off hand but the company is Squires Turbo Systems. My local tuner did a single turbo setup on an otherwise bone stock car and at 7lbs of boost was knockin down 420 rwhp. Not bad if you ask me

tommyboy · August 6th, 2007, 08:09 PM

you can still pass smog with L/T's the key is in the mid pipe. MAC offeres the prochamber with or without cats....cats are what will pass you on smog

Foxlynam · August 6th, 2007, 08:25 PM

Ah I see. Thanks, that helps.

Modern_Muscle · August 6th, 2007, 11:24 PM

i believe the choice should be to get LTs, I LOVE MINE!
mac ceramic l/ts

hellbred07 · August 7th, 2007, 09:08 AM

speed shop in va told me for about a $1,000.00 they'll provide the parts install and modify my stock h to fit the headers along with the cats i would like to do it myself looks crazy under there.with install would my exhaust note increase any body know about va laws and longtubes what about having to remove to get to the tranny.

1FastFox · August 7th, 2007, 09:36 AM

I bet they would do it for 1k. You can get brand new aftermarket h pipes for half of that. Look into it, you will be glad you did. Plus you never know with exhaust shops trying to do stuff lik that, sometimes they get themselves in over their head. You might end up with exhaust leaks and a never ending battle from it.

hellbred07 · August 7th, 2007, 01:41 PM

now i,m looking at long tubes short mid pipe install $1000.00 or wait who knows how long to get paxton novi 1200 kit 3800.00 iam not far i just want to do this right the first time dont want to put anything on to have to take of again because it wont compliment my blower i want to get the car ready for it how do the stock manifolds flow anyway.

1FastFox · August 7th, 2007, 02:07 PM

They are great. The wxhaust will compliment the blower nicely. Just remeber you will have to get a tune for LTs. so you might want to look into a intake/tuner combo. Unless your going to do the exhaust install at the same time as the SC, then you can just get a tuner ( the sc will come with a piece to replace the intake ). Just a fair warning, horsepower is like crack ( not that I have ever done crack ) its feels great at firsts then it starts to feel regular again, then you wont more to get that feeling back, and it keeps going and going and going and going and going and going.

hellbred07 · August 7th, 2007, 03:53 PM

how loud is your exhaust does the prochamber sound really good w/o cats right now i have the pypes viol sounds good could turn the windows up 5th gear hwy quiet how much louder do u think the mac l/t prochamber would make it

August 6th, 2007, 01:38 PM	#1
hellbred07 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: va Posts: 791 iTrader: 0 reviews	L/T OR NOT TO L/T Hey guys new to the forum does anybody know if long tubes are worth it, what gains would i see would the exhaust note change ihave an 07 gt and can't figure i should or should not install also have heard you lose low end torque.how are the macs

August 6th, 2007, 01:46 PM	#2
leebunnyz MM Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 3,550 iTrader: 0 reviews	Longtubes are great from what i hear, probably give you round 10whp...macs are a good bang for your buck __________________ Jesus Christ is #1 "The Founder Of Crews"

August 6th, 2007, 01:56 PM	#3
1FastFox Skirt Chasing Phallus Phondler Kit Car/Ducati/Explorer Nike Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,483 iTrader: 4 reviews	Macs are great, in my opinion... I would definitally do some LTs. But, you know you also have to replace the mid-pipe, as it wont fit up with LTs. Then if you replace the midpipe might as well put some mufflers on it. If your going to replace the mufflers you might as well get a cold air intake/tune combo. If your going to get a CAI/tune combo you might as well get a short throw, if your going to get a shorthrow, oh screw get a supercharger. Just kidding about most of that non-sense. But yes I would go with LTs and also with Macs. I know alot of people on here have alot of opinions when it comes to exhaust. This is just mine... __________________ QUOTE OF THE DAY (5/25/12): “Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” ‐ Miles Davis

August 6th, 2007, 01:56 PM	#4
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,484 iTrader: 2 reviews	definetly LT. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

August 6th, 2007, 02:07 PM	#5
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	L/T's are great for performence and sound, they're just a pain to install. __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 6th, 2007, 02:28 PM	#6
acehogg69 Hardcore Enthusiast 06 GT with bolt ons I sucked Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cheese country!! aka WI Posts: 1,090 iTrader: 0 reviews	L/T's for sure! IMO Borlas! __________________ Kyle Busch Haters Club!! Member Uno! Tony wrote "Blowers blow, turbos suck, and nitrous rules!!! lol " Borla cattless L/T's topped with Flowmasters , Roush short throw, JLT2 CAI w/ X-CAL2 from Brenspeed, Bullit 18X9 and 18X10 deep dish.

August 6th, 2007, 03:38 PM	#7
Ho_Edge Regular 2006 Mustang GT havent been yet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas baby! Posts: 280 iTrader: 0 reviews	this is prolly a stupid question....do turbos and LTs not mix? i seem to remember somebody saying that they were selling / getting rid of their LTs because they were getting a turbo setup thnx for not slapping me while answering this

August 6th, 2007, 03:42 PM	#8
1FastFox Skirt Chasing Phallus Phondler Kit Car/Ducati/Explorer Nike Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,483 iTrader: 4 reviews	Turbos require manifolds and manifolds replace the headers... so no they dont mix... __________________ QUOTE OF THE DAY (5/25/12): “Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” ‐ Miles Davis

August 6th, 2007, 05:42 PM	#10
RStrick0352 Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 11.40 @ 121 mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 660 iTrader: 0 reviews	Uhhhhhhh...... Longtubes, DUH __________________ GT 6sp Grabber Orange For mods check my garage. 349 rwhp, 331 rwtrq Naturally Aspirated 445 rwhp, 495 rwtrq 100 Shot 60ft: 1.74 1/4: 12.15 @ 112.43 N/A 60ft: 1.71 11.40 @ 121.18 100 shot Nitrous

August 6th, 2007, 07:49 PM	#11
Foxlynam Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	But, isn't it true that you cannot Smog your car when you have L/T's? At least in CA, all the LT manufacturers state they are not CARB legal etc. So, is this wrong or...? __________________ "Speed's just a question of money. How fast do you wanna go?"

August 6th, 2007, 08:00 PM	#12
RStrick0352 Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 11.40 @ 121 mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 660 iTrader: 0 reviews	YES you can still turbo your car with L/T's, all you have to do is use a rear mount turbo system like STS turbo's. I personally think its an engenious design as well, the spools are completely clear of the engine compartment so all that pesky heat is isolated. You should check them out I dont know the site off hand but the company is Squires Turbo Systems. My local tuner did a single turbo setup on an otherwise bone stock car and at 7lbs of boost was knockin down 420 rwhp. Not bad if you ask me __________________ GT 6sp Grabber Orange For mods check my garage. 349 rwhp, 331 rwtrq Naturally Aspirated 445 rwhp, 495 rwtrq 100 Shot 60ft: 1.74 1/4: 12.15 @ 112.43 N/A 60ft: 1.71 11.40 @ 121.18 100 shot Nitrous

August 6th, 2007, 08:09 PM	#13
tommyboy Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 83 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can still pass smog with L/T's the key is in the mid pipe. MAC offeres the prochamber with or without cats....cats are what will pass you on smog __________________

August 6th, 2007, 08:25 PM	#14
Foxlynam Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ah I see. Thanks, that helps. __________________ "Speed's just a question of money. How fast do you wanna go?"

August 6th, 2007, 11:24 PM	#15
Modern_Muscle Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	i believe the choice should be to get LTs, I LOVE MINE! mac ceramic l/ts __________________ 1998 Trans Am WS6. (Anti Venom) Forged 347, stage 3 T56, and a 76mm Turbo... 659rwhp @ 13.5# ~725rwhp @ 15.5# Meth, C16, and 20psi coming soon 03 Z71 (H/C/I/E/T)...sold 2005 GT, Full Bolt-Ons...12's... GONE

August 7th, 2007, 09:08 AM	#16
hellbred07 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: va Posts: 791 iTrader: 0 reviews	speed shop in va told me for about a $1,000.00 they'll provide the parts install and modify my stock h to fit the headers along with the cats i would like to do it myself looks crazy under there.with install would my exhaust note increase any body know about va laws and longtubes what about having to remove to get to the tranny.

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August 7th, 2007, 09:36 AM	#17
1FastFox Skirt Chasing Phallus Phondler Kit Car/Ducati/Explorer Nike Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,483 iTrader: 4 reviews	I bet they would do it for 1k. You can get brand new aftermarket h pipes for half of that. Look into it, you will be glad you did. Plus you never know with exhaust shops trying to do stuff lik that, sometimes they get themselves in over their head. You might end up with exhaust leaks and a never ending battle from it. __________________ QUOTE OF THE DAY (5/25/12): “Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” ‐ Miles Davis

August 7th, 2007, 01:41 PM	#18
hellbred07 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: va Posts: 791 iTrader: 0 reviews	now i,m looking at long tubes short mid pipe install $1000.00 or wait who knows how long to get paxton novi 1200 kit 3800.00 iam not far i just want to do this right the first time dont want to put anything on to have to take of again because it wont compliment my blower i want to get the car ready for it how do the stock manifolds flow anyway.

August 7th, 2007, 02:07 PM	#19
1FastFox Skirt Chasing Phallus Phondler Kit Car/Ducati/Explorer Nike Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,483 iTrader: 4 reviews	They are great. The wxhaust will compliment the blower nicely. Just remeber you will have to get a tune for LTs. so you might want to look into a intake/tuner combo. Unless your going to do the exhaust install at the same time as the SC, then you can just get a tuner ( the sc will come with a piece to replace the intake ). Just a fair warning, horsepower is like crack ( not that I have ever done crack ) its feels great at firsts then it starts to feel regular again, then you wont more to get that feeling back, and it keeps going and going and going and going and going and going. __________________ QUOTE OF THE DAY (5/25/12): “Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” ‐ Miles Davis

August 7th, 2007, 03:53 PM	#20
hellbred07 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: va Posts: 791 iTrader: 0 reviews	how loud is your exhaust does the prochamber sound really good w/o cats right now i have the pypes viol sounds good could turn the windows up 5th gear hwy quiet how much louder do u think the mac l/t prochamber would make it

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