My next mod: UDP's or CMCV deletes??

stanglifemike · August 10th, 2007, 09:07 PM

So I'm going to order one or the other tommorow. Which one do you guys think I should get?

TheUNZippee! · August 10th, 2007, 09:09 PM

Charge Motion plates. I'm not a big udp fan, but then I have amperage issues. lol

stanglifemike · August 10th, 2007, 09:23 PM

Oh yea, either you guys choose will be Steeda. For the CMCV deletes they will be the economy ones because Doug(Bamachips) said they perform just as well as the more expensive ones. Well Zip if becomes a prob I'll put an Optima in there like I had to my 98, no probs since.

TheUNZippee! · August 10th, 2007, 09:28 PM

That's good to know about the CM plates. Yeah, I know I can toss another alternator on there, but I just can't seem to bring myself to spring that kind of cash for what I need when I have so many other mods I want to do first. Cams....coil pack set....aluminum ds....LT headers....Prochamber... lol

2k05gt · August 10th, 2007, 11:37 PM

I have never had Charging issues with my UDP, I have had them over 15 months, I have noticed the AC is not as cold in rush hour traffic, but when moving it's fine. I have a Voltage meter and at idle my alternater is at 13.5 VDC all the time. before UDP it was 13.8 not enough to worry about.
I also have CMDP and just keep in mind that you will need a tune for them. and you will loose 1-2 MPG.

leebunnyz · August 11th, 2007, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by 2k05gt

I have never had Charging issues with my UDP, I have had them over 15 months, I have noticed the AC is not as cold in rush hour traffic, but when moving it's fine. I have a Voltage meter and at idle my alternater is at 13.5 VDC all the time. before UDP it was 13.8 not enough to worry about.
I also have CMDP and just keep in mind that you will need a tune for them. and you will loose 1-2 MPG.

zip has a crazy sound system i think so the pulleys just might cause probelms for his car

leebunnyz · August 11th, 2007, 03:33 AM

i say do the CMCV delete 1st so you can tell me how it feels

L33T · August 11th, 2007, 06:57 AM

CM deletes definitely do first.
I got 20 rwhp out of mine.

evilcow · August 11th, 2007, 10:53 AM

Just an FYI automotive alternators are designed to supply a steady voltage no matter how fast they spin. If UDPs are installed the voltage should stay the same but the alternator will produce less current. The best way to fix that problem if you're using UDPs is to install 3.73 or 4.10 gears in the back!

mustang197speed · August 11th, 2007, 04:21 PM

if you go with the charge motion deletes you will need a programmer with a tune.When I installed my udp's I bumbed the idle by 100 rpm and have had no charging or a/c problems what so ever.

Modern_Muscle · August 13th, 2007, 02:21 AM

BOTH!!
LOL, i have amperage issues even with my shaker 1000 tho, dimming lights and crap

stanglifemike · August 13th, 2007, 12:40 PM

I have the Shaker 1000 too. How did it affect you Modern?? On my 98 my battery lasted about a week after the UDP's went in, then I put an Optima batt in and its been fine.

leebunnyz · August 13th, 2007, 01:38 PM

i have the shaker 1000 too and everything is fine

TheUNZippee! · August 13th, 2007, 02:01 PM

My system will pull roughly 150 amps when it's at about 3/4 volume. lol

udp FTL on my car.

stanglifemike · August 13th, 2007, 02:23 PM

What brand udp's do you guys reccomend?? I just looked at the Steeda and the BBK.

stanglifemike · August 13th, 2007, 04:35 PM

Went ahead and ordered the Steeda udp from American Muscle. 187 and some change shipped

. Should be here by the end of the week and installed this weekend.

TheUNZippee! · August 13th, 2007, 04:46 PM

Did you get our MM discount ?

stanglifemike · August 13th, 2007, 04:48 PM

yup

stanglifemike · August 13th, 2007, 04:48 PM

They were 199.95

TheUNZippee! · August 13th, 2007, 04:50 PM

Cool

August 10th, 2007, 09:07 PM	#1
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	My next mod: UDP's or CMCV deletes?? So I'm going to order one or the other tommorow. Which one do you guys think I should get? __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 10th, 2007, 09:23 PM	#3
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	Oh yea, either you guys choose will be Steeda. For the CMCV deletes they will be the economy ones because Doug(Bamachips) said they perform just as well as the more expensive ones. Well Zip if becomes a prob I'll put an Optima in there like I had to my 98, no probs since. __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 10th, 2007, 11:37 PM	#5
2k05gt Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virgina Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have never had Charging issues with my UDP, I have had them over 15 months, I have noticed the AC is not as cold in rush hour traffic, but when moving it's fine. I have a Voltage meter and at idle my alternater is at 13.5 VDC all the time. before UDP it was 13.8 not enough to worry about. I also have CMDP and just keep in mind that you will need a tune for them. and you will loose 1-2 MPG. __________________ ___ 12.29 @ 110 All Motor (Auto w/TCI 3500 Converter & Bolt-Ons)

August 11th, 2007, 03:33 AM	#7
leebunnyz MM Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 3,550 iTrader: 0 reviews	i say do the CMCV delete 1st so you can tell me how it feels __________________ Jesus Christ is #1 "The Founder Of Crews"

August 11th, 2007, 10:53 AM	#9
evilcow Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 57 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just an FYI automotive alternators are designed to supply a steady voltage no matter how fast they spin. If UDPs are installed the voltage should stay the same but the alternator will produce less current. The best way to fix that problem if you're using UDPs is to install 3.73 or 4.10 gears in the back! __________________ 2007 GT auto Grabber Orange Sequential Tail Lights, JLT II, XCAL3, 3.73

August 11th, 2007, 06:57 AM	#8
L33T Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 731 iTrader: 0 reviews	CM deletes definitely do first. I got 20 rwhp out of mine.

August 11th, 2007, 04:21 PM	#10
mustang197speed Look Ma! My First Post! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you go with the charge motion deletes you will need a programmer with a tune.When I installed my udp's I bumbed the idle by 100 rpm and have had no charging or a/c problems what so ever.

August 13th, 2007, 02:21 AM	#11
Modern_Muscle Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	BOTH!! LOL, i have amperage issues even with my shaker 1000 tho, dimming lights and crap __________________ 1998 Trans Am WS6. (Anti Venom) Forged 347, stage 3 T56, and a 76mm Turbo... 659rwhp @ 13.5# ~725rwhp @ 15.5# Meth, C16, and 20psi coming soon 03 Z71 (H/C/I/E/T)...sold 2005 GT, Full Bolt-Ons...12's... GONE

August 13th, 2007, 12:40 PM	#12
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have the Shaker 1000 too. How did it affect you Modern?? On my 98 my battery lasted about a week after the UDP's went in, then I put an Optima batt in and its been fine. __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 13th, 2007, 01:38 PM	#13
leebunnyz MM Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 3,550 iTrader: 0 reviews	i have the shaker 1000 too and everything is fine __________________ Jesus Christ is #1 "The Founder Of Crews"

August 13th, 2007, 02:23 PM	#15
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	What brand udp's do you guys reccomend?? I just looked at the Steeda and the BBK. __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 13th, 2007, 04:35 PM	#16
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	Went ahead and ordered the Steeda udp from American Muscle. 187 and some change shipped . Should be here by the end of the week and installed this weekend. __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 13th, 2007, 04:48 PM	#18
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	yup __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 13th, 2007, 04:48 PM	#19
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	They were 199.95 __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

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