Charge Motion Delete Plates question

RX Bandit · August 12th, 2007, 08:37 PM

Do you guys notice a difference and or feedback?

06RedfireGT · August 12th, 2007, 08:52 PM

I can't say from experience, but from what I've heard they do make a difference, especially when the car has F.I.

Emay · August 12th, 2007, 10:11 PM

on stock motor I mostly noticed better (snappier) throttle response.

leebunnyz · August 13th, 2007, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by L33T

CM deletes definitely do first.
I got 20 rwhp out of mine.

that was when he was N/A i believe, i could be wrong

GT/CS · August 14th, 2007, 01:55 AM

Funny, steeda advertises only 10rwhp. Were there other big mods I wonder? Or maybe he was FI. Anyway, I'm excited cause I just bought those, CNC Ford racing heads and Comp cams, and 4.10's=about 100rwhp. Haha, now I just need to get the shit on...damnit.

05mustang_TT_charged · August 15th, 2007, 11:28 PM

before supercharger i put mine on in 35 minutes and with steeda cold air, no mufflers with the rest of the exhaust stock, bought a sct xcal 2 and made 303 rwhp, i ordered the billet ones, still have them and will sell them as well as the cold air

stanglifemike · August 15th, 2007, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by 05mustang_kb_charged

before supercharger i put mine on in 35 minutes and with steeda cold air, no mufflers with the rest of the exhaust stock, bought a sct xcal 2 and made 303 rwhp, i ordered the billet ones, still have them and will sell them as well as the cold air

How much?

05mustang_TT_charged · August 15th, 2007, 11:57 PM

have them in classafied section with some other crap. asking 200 but price not in stone. pm me if you want them they were on the car for 1300 miles

phikat · December 27th, 2007, 11:21 PM

how much do you want for the delete plates?

07stanggt · December 28th, 2007, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by GT/CS

Funny, steeda advertises only 10rwhp. Were there other big mods I wonder? Or maybe he was FI. Anyway, I'm excited cause I just bought those, CNC Ford racing heads and Comp cams, and 4.10's=about 100rwhp. Haha, now I just need to get the shit on...damnit.

How do you figure ported heads with cams will get you 100hp. I hope they do! not trying to rain on your parade i just never heard that. Im thinking about ported heads, comp cams and stroking it to 302 and that wont get me 100rwhp thats why im asking.

Which comp cams did you get?

killermach1 · December 28th, 2007, 05:53 AM

If you look at what he wrote I think he meant with heads, cams, CMD plates, and 4.10s = about 100RWHP I hope he ment "feels" like 100rwhp because you are right at best with all that you are looking at 70-80 actual HP and that depends on the Cam grind and the port job on the heads it could be lower.

07stanggt · December 28th, 2007, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by killermach1

If you look at what he wrote I think he meant with heads, cams, CMD plates, and 4.10s = about 100RWHP I hope he ment "feels" like 100rwhp because you are right at best with all that you are looking at 70-80 actual HP and that depends on the Cam grind and the port job on the heads it could be lower.

would have to be a agressive cam i guess. I have been reading about them lately cuase im shopping, dont know. i dont think i have found a total head, cam, stroker kit together yet to see the gain. they either stroke it and port the heads with stock cams or do cams and heads. i did see one cam and head setup get 57 i think but that car already had delete plates and TB. I forget what cam that was.

catchtheroadrunner · December 28th, 2007, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

would have to be a agressive cam i guess. I have been reading about them lately cuase im shopping, dont know. i dont think i have found a total head, cam, stroker kit together yet to see the gain. they either stroke it and port the heads with stock cams or do cams and heads. i did see one cam and head setup get 57 i think but that car already had delete plates and TB. I forget what cam that was.

I too think he was kidding. Wasn't there a little smiley face after the power claim?

killermach1 · December 28th, 2007, 10:37 AM

well 400+ rwhp is within the relm of possibility for full boltons and a really good head and Cam combo. BBR has dynod 400+ at the wheels and could have gotten more with improved fuel delivery and tuning.

06RedfireGT · December 28th, 2007, 10:55 AM

But they are comp stage IIIs and the FRPP heads so he won't see 400rwhp.

07Bullitt · December 28th, 2007, 11:32 AM

i know this thread is about CMC's, but here is a tech articel from MM&FF this car's baseline was 333 and they got a 35hp gain from the comp cams and springs alone, so 368 all together pony's......i guess we could expect close to400 hp all n/a. my friend john who cars i posted in the other thread about the t-56 supposedly purchased another set of 3v heads to play around with at dayton performance, im gonna see what he gets out of his car before i decide anything.

heres the article.
Ford Mustang Comp Cams Swap - Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords

just to add, we talked about this car on another board and here is a response i got.

Not sure how a dyno dynamics dynomometer compares to standard dynojet readings. It does not show what correction factor is used either. I know there is a 7rwhp and 6rwtq difference between SAE (defacto standard) and STD on best to date dyno runs.

333rwhp seems a little on the high side for the mods listed. What I would pay more attention to in the article is the 35rwhp and 18rwtq gain of the camshafts. That is pretty solid.

The highest dynojet numbers I have seen from non-ported head cammed 3v is 370rwhp and 349rwtq. That was with every bolt on and crane stage 4 cams. I posted a video of the car and it idled like a pro stock car.

07stanggt · December 28th, 2007, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT

But they are comp stage IIIs and the FRPP heads so he won't see 400rwhp.

how do you know he got stage III? I was wondering what cam he got. Hey the frpp ported heads are good ones dont make me defend ford racing again

doug@suttonhp · December 28th, 2007, 12:24 PM

Did some testing with a couple of differant bolt ons from just pulleys to head cam package.

1st Graph/ Bolts on's & Custom tune

2nd Graph/ Ford Racing cylinder heads
&Custom tune

3rd Graph/ Add Cams & Custom tune

All testing done on 06 Manual GT Mustang

We have actually found that the IMRC plates have picked up almost 20h.p. to the tire in some N/A applications. But figured maybe you guys would like to see some of the graphs on testing we did

07stanggt · December 28th, 2007, 12:53 PM

What cams were those on that graph? and what do you think i could expect with stroking it to 302 and then the same cams and heads on your test?

By the way to the original guy that started this thread im sorry if im hijacking it.

07Bullitt · December 28th, 2007, 03:12 PM

im gonna start a n/a thread so we can talk about the different mods and keep it all in one thread and organized.

August 12th, 2007, 08:37 PM	#1
RX Bandit Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 321 iTrader: 0 reviews	Charge Motion Delete Plates question Do you guys notice a difference and or feedback?

August 12th, 2007, 08:52 PM	#2
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	I can't say from experience, but from what I've heard they do make a difference, especially when the car has F.I. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

August 12th, 2007, 10:11 PM	#3
Emay May 08 ROTM 2008 Audi S6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: S. Elgin Posts: 6,684 iTrader: 3 reviews	on stock motor I mostly noticed better (snappier) throttle response. __________________ FLICKR Unique Imagery

August 14th, 2007, 01:55 AM	#5
GT/CS Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 122 iTrader: 0 reviews	Funny, steeda advertises only 10rwhp. Were there other big mods I wonder? Or maybe he was FI. Anyway, I'm excited cause I just bought those, CNC Ford racing heads and Comp cams, and 4.10's=about 100rwhp. Haha, now I just need to get the shit on...damnit. __________________ Ford Racing heads, Comp stage III cams, 4.10's, Steeda delete plates, SLP long tube headers, Custom 3'' X pipe, Magna flow 3" Magnapacks, Airaid CAI, SCT XCAL 2 93 tune, Steeda front and rear swaybars, Dynotech aluminum driveshaft, HTP TB spacer

August 15th, 2007, 11:28 PM	#6
05mustang_TT_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 10.32@137.70 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 2,774 iTrader: 0 reviews	before supercharger i put mine on in 35 minutes and with steeda cold air, no mufflers with the rest of the exhaust stock, bought a sct xcal 2 and made 303 rwhp, i ordered the billet ones, still have them and will sell them as well as the cold air __________________ 350 rwhp and 310 rwtq at 6000 rpms through stock exhaust system 326 cubic inches of Twin Turbocharged hell will be running soon Tuned by Wes @ TPS

August 15th, 2007, 11:57 PM	#8
05mustang_TT_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 10.32@137.70 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 2,774 iTrader: 0 reviews	have them in classafied section with some other crap. asking 200 but price not in stone. pm me if you want them they were on the car for 1300 miles __________________ 350 rwhp and 310 rwtq at 6000 rpms through stock exhaust system 326 cubic inches of Twin Turbocharged hell will be running soon Tuned by Wes @ TPS

December 27th, 2007, 11:21 PM	#9
phikat Newbie 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lodi California Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	how much do you want for the delete plates?

December 28th, 2007, 05:53 AM	#11
killermach1 Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 349 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you look at what he wrote I think he meant with heads, cams, CMD plates, and 4.10s = about 100RWHP I hope he ment "feels" like 100rwhp because you are right at best with all that you are looking at 70-80 actual HP and that depends on the Cam grind and the port job on the heads it could be lower.

December 28th, 2007, 10:37 AM	#14
killermach1 Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 349 iTrader: 0 reviews	well 400+ rwhp is within the relm of possibility for full boltons and a really good head and Cam combo. BBR has dynod 400+ at the wheels and could have gotten more with improved fuel delivery and tuning.

December 28th, 2007, 10:55 AM	#15
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	But they are comp stage IIIs and the FRPP heads so he won't see 400rwhp. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

December 28th, 2007, 11:32 AM	#16
07Bullitt Regular 2007 mustang GT new time soon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dayton, OH Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	i know this thread is about CMC's, but here is a tech articel from MM&FF this car's baseline was 333 and they got a 35hp gain from the comp cams and springs alone, so 368 all together pony's......i guess we could expect close to400 hp all n/a. my friend john who cars i posted in the other thread about the t-56 supposedly purchased another set of 3v heads to play around with at dayton performance, im gonna see what he gets out of his car before i decide anything. heres the article. Ford Mustang Comp Cams Swap - Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords just to add, we talked about this car on another board and here is a response i got. Not sure how a dyno dynamics dynomometer compares to standard dynojet readings. It does not show what correction factor is used either. I know there is a 7rwhp and 6rwtq difference between SAE (defacto standard) and STD on best to date dyno runs. 333rwhp seems a little on the high side for the mods listed. What I would pay more attention to in the article is the 35rwhp and 18rwtq gain of the camshafts. That is pretty solid. The highest dynojet numbers I have seen from non-ported head cammed 3v is 370rwhp and 349rwtq. That was with every bolt on and crane stage 4 cams. I posted a video of the car and it idled like a pro stock car. __________________ 2007 gt (blue devil) 4.10 gears airaid cai cmc delete plates bassani ss offroad x frpp GTA axle backs cdc shaker hood 302 rwhp 322 rwtq tuned by dayton performance Last edited by 07Bullitt; December 28th, 2007 at 11:42 AM.

December 28th, 2007, 12:24 PM	#18
doug@suttonhp Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5 iTrader: 0 reviews	Did some testing with a couple of differant bolt ons from just pulleys to head cam package. 1st Graph/ Bolts on's & Custom tune 2nd Graph/ Ford Racing cylinder heads &Custom tune 3rd Graph/ Add Cams & Custom tune All testing done on 06 Manual GT Mustang We have actually found that the IMRC plates have picked up almost 20h.p. to the tire in some N/A applications. But figured maybe you guys would like to see some of the graphs on testing we did Attached Thumbnails __________________ WWW.SUTTONHP.COM

December 28th, 2007, 12:53 PM	#19
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	What cams were those on that graph? and what do you think i could expect with stroking it to 302 and then the same cams and heads on your test? By the way to the original guy that started this thread im sorry if im hijacking it. Last edited by 07stanggt; December 28th, 2007 at 12:55 PM.

December 28th, 2007, 03:12 PM	#20
07Bullitt Regular 2007 mustang GT new time soon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dayton, OH Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	im gonna start a n/a thread so we can talk about the different mods and keep it all in one thread and organized. __________________ 2007 gt (blue devil) 4.10 gears airaid cai cmc delete plates bassani ss offroad x frpp GTA axle backs cdc shaker hood 302 rwhp 322 rwtq tuned by dayton performance

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