[Wado]

Hi all I'm new to the site and I have an 07 Shelby GT and I'm not thrilled with the pedal feel on my brakes. I was wondering if anyone has tried intsalling braided lines and or different pads and what your experiences were. The car stops fine the pedal is just a bit mushy.

[Grabber523]

I haven't done it to mine yet, but the steel braided lines will make that mushiness go away...it's on my to do list, but I got other prioritites right now...you should definitely get them...

[usafimj]

Don't mean to steal the thread but is it better to buy a brake kit or just buy rotors, SS lines, and brake pads.

[Grabber523]

Depends on what you want, I guess...if you get a big brake kit, they usually come with the fronts only, and that screws up your front/rear brake balance...IMO get rotors, pads, lines, do a GOOD bleed, and you should have more than enough stopping power and great feel...and you maintain your balance so you're not locking up the fronts all the time, and burning up the rears.

[usafimj]

Now are slotted or cross drilled rotors are the best. Got any links to good rotors, ss lines, and brakes

[Grabber523]

I don't have any links, sorry, haven't really been looking yet...maybe try american muscle, brenspeed, lethal performance...don't go drilled, they crack...a lot...and slots are pretty...the slots are supposed to help with off-gassing under heavy braking, plus they're stonger. Slots FTW...

[Jucostud]

Originally Posted by Grabber523 I don't have any links, sorry, haven't really been looking yet...maybe try american muscle, brenspeed, lethal performance...don't go drilled, they crack...a lot...and slots are pretty...the slots are supposed to help with off-gassing under heavy braking, plus they're stonger. Slots FTW...

slots FTL!!!!

GO DRILLED

why do all the high performance car companies(like porsche) go drilled? bec ause if you aren't track racing, you don't wanted slotted. slotted rotors shave your brake pads every time you use them, making them go bad faster. drilled rotors keep your brakes cooler and make your brake pads last longer. either go drilled or slotted and drilled.

[LV51FER]

Sorry but drilled rotors would "shave" your pads just as much as grooves but in fact that's not their purpose because when you apply your brakes hard, the interface between brake and rotor produces a gas which the pad floats on and the groove or hole is to vent the gases and enable better contact.

Drilled rotors look great but heat causes them to develop stress cracks. Grooved rotors are better.

Porsche et al prefer ceramic brakes and the drilled rotors they do use are very expensive.

[Jucostud]

Originally Posted by LV51FER Sorry but drilled rotors would "shave" your pads just as much as grooves but in fact that's not their purpose because when you apply your brakes hard, the interface between brake and rotor produces a gas which the pad floats on and the groove or hole is to vent the gases and enable better contact. Drilled rotors look great but heat causes them to develop stress cracks. Grooved rotors are better. Porsche et al prefer ceramic brakes and the drilled rotors they do use are very expensive.

they don't shave just as much. thats what the slots are there for. the idea behind them is to shave your brake pad when using them so that everytime when you brake you have a fresh pad that isn't glazed. the drilled rotors are made to release heat.

[06RedfireGT]

Front Rotors

Rear Rotors

Front Pads

Rear Pads

SS Lines

[Grabber523]

Originally Posted by LV51FER Sorry but drilled rotors would "shave" your pads just as much as grooves but in fact that's not their purpose because when you apply your brakes hard, the interface between brake and rotor produces a gas which the pad floats on and the groove or hole is to vent the gases and enable better contact. Drilled rotors look great but heat causes them to develop stress cracks. Grooved rotors are better. Porsche et al prefer ceramic brakes and the drilled rotors they do use are very expensive.

Thank you...that's what i'm sayin...

[Grabber523]

They're not designed to "shave" anything...they're designed to vent the hot gasses that are built up between the rotor and pad while braking...

[stanglifemike]

I've been running drilled and slotted on the 98 for a few years and my pad life is GREAT!! No crack from the drilling, the drilled rotors cracking isnt a myth though, its just cheap rotors. Mine are the FRPP and the only complaint I have is that they were'nt zinc coated.

[Grabber523]

That would look hot...brakes are last on the list for me...no road race tracks here...hell in north Dakota even the roads don't turn...

[catchtheroadrunner]

Originally Posted by LV51FER Sorry but drilled rotors would "shave" your pads just as much as grooves but in fact that's not their purpose because when you apply your brakes hard, the interface between brake and rotor produces a gas which the pad floats on and the groove or hole is to vent the gases and enable better contact. Drilled rotors look great but heat causes them to develop stress cracks. Grooved rotors are better. Porsche et al prefer ceramic brakes and the drilled rotors they do use are very expensive.

Drilled rotors don't shave your brake pads (at least not enough to say that it's deliberate). The holes provide little pockets for the gas to expand into. Slotted rotors shave the pad because the calipers compress (we're talking microns) the rotor up to the edge of the next slot which provides relief. The lip of the rotor on the other side of the slot is not compressed and skims/scraps the surface of the pads as it passes through the caliper. That section also becomes slightly compressed as it passes through the caliper setting up the pass of the next slot through the caliper.

[Grabber523]

Love your avatar roadrunner...beautimus...friend of yours?

[usafimj]

Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT Front Rotors Rear Rotors Front Pads Rear Pads SS Lines

Now would those 14" rotors work on stock 18" rims

[Jucostud]

Originally Posted by usafimj Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT Front Rotors Rear Rotors Front Pads Rear Pads SS Lines Now would those 14" rotors work on stock 18" rims

You may have to shave a little, but they should fit. maverick has 14" rotors on his stock 18's.

[06RedfireGT]

Disregard the above comment. They would look hot. There would be no space showing, just wheel and rotor. Juco didn't click th link, they are rotors not calipers. And I'm pretty sure they will fit fine.

[catchtheroadrunner]

Wikipedia, I searched for Disk Brake. It's a pretty cool article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_brake

...The design of the disc varies somewhat. Some are simply solid cast iron, but others are hollowed out with fins joining together the disc's two contact surfaces (usually included as part of a casting process). This "ventilated" disc design helps to dissipate the generated heat and is commonly used on the more-heavily-loaded front discs. Many higher performance brakes have holes drilled through them. This is known as cross-drilling and was originally done in the 1960s on racing cars. Brake pads will outgas and under use may create boundary layer of gas between the pad and the disc hurting braking performance. Cross-drilling was created to provide the gas someplace to escape. Although modern brake pads seldom suffer from outgassing problems, water residue may build up after a vehicle passes through a puddle and impede braking performance. For this reason, and for heat dissipation purposes, Cross Drilling is still used on some braking components, but is not favored for racing or other hard use as the holes are a source of stress cracks under severe conditions.

Discs may also be slotted, where shallow channels are machined into the disc to aid in removing dust and gas. Slotting is the preferred method in most racing environments to remove gas, water, and de-glaze brake pads. Some discs are both drilled and slotted. Slotted discs are generally not used on standard vehicles because they quickly wear down brake pads; however, this removal of material is beneficial to race vehicles since it keeps the pads soft and avoids vitrification of their surfaces...