Cam swap out

Lazyracer · October 9th, 2007, 06:38 AM

I am thinking of replacing the cam in my 05 as my next power mod and I am looking at the crane kit from Bama; Camshaft kit 127350. Does anyone have any experience of this cam on the street as well as the strip? Any other reccomendations??

Leading on from this will be gas to get up to 500BHP (Im guessing 75hp jets), any thoughts on weaknesses in the stock short motor or transmission?

06RedfireGT · October 9th, 2007, 09:31 PM

A 100 shot should be the max IMO, but I say the BBR Stage II cams. They are pretty aggresive, but still streetable.

Lazyracer · October 10th, 2007, 04:33 AM

Thanks, that makes sense; I guess thats Dougs part no. 127300?

It has an exhaust duration of 274. I heard that for street, 270 is about the max. Im going to stick to 100 shot of gas next season as you state; I use the car big time every day and I reckon Ill be about 485bhp (with gas). The combined motor mods and gas should be inside the transmission and bottom end tolerances.

I like the idea of gas as it is only on at the strip so the motor is only on about 385 on the street.

Thanks for your input, do you agree with this logic??

Goose 07 · October 10th, 2007, 12:04 PM

Lazyracer

I am also considering a cam swap as my next mod, and after talking to Doug (Bamachips), he recommended the 127350, or the new 127400 cam for my 07 GT. He said that these cams will give you the classic idle we all love, and they are still streetable. I also use my car as a daily driver, and I feel like the BBR stage II's might be a bit much.

I will probably stop by BBR sometime soon, and talk to those guys about their stage II cam. I just want to make sure that I don't over cam the car.

Are you also going to port and polish the heads?

jat · October 10th, 2007, 12:16 PM

my friend has a jdm stroker with bbr stage 2 cams and ported and polished heads.. he makes amazing power with his turbo and this set up..reason im saying this it is a dd I don't hink its too aggressive at all

Lazyracer · October 10th, 2007, 03:18 PM

I have thought about the heads, I understand that there can be serious gains from doing this. Make sure you post up what BBR say. Ive got a lot of faith in BAMA and I have also had no probs with BBR so its a tough call

whats the difference between the 127400' cam you mentioned, I cant see it on Dougs site?

Goose 07 · October 10th, 2007, 09:34 PM

Doug doesnt have the 127400 up on his site, but he can get it for you. Its a new cam that COMP CAMS just released. Its almost as aggressive a cam as the BBR stage II.

The first I had heard of the 127400 was when Doug mentioned it. The 127400 is also called the COMP CAM stage IV.

06RedfireGT · October 10th, 2007, 09:46 PM

Here is the BBR stage II at idle. Not to rough for a DD IMO.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=13pA6O0cm...elated&search=

jat · October 10th, 2007, 10:25 PM

bbr stage 2 cams dont sound rough at all just listen to mti cams for vettes.. lol it makes bbr sound like kids throwing pebbles on pavement...

but since its the only thing we s197s have id get bbr stage 2s

06RedfireGT · October 10th, 2007, 10:28 PM

This is a rough idle :wink

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GchDT2hrYns

jat · October 10th, 2007, 10:32 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DG65mcICyuY

sry to say it but that is a big cam..

the bbr is nothing to this.. lol

06RedfireGT · October 10th, 2007, 10:37 PM

Ok you win lol.

The thing is the mod motors dont really benefit from a super aggresive cam.

jat · October 10th, 2007, 11:16 PM

i know but i just had to show it... lol

wish we could throw in something like this...

06RedfireGT · October 11th, 2007, 12:26 AM

That thing can't idle lol

Lazyracer · October 11th, 2007, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT

Here is the BBR stage II at idle. Not to rough for a DD IMO.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=13pA6O0cm...elated&search=

DD??

jat · October 11th, 2007, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Lazyracer

Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT

Here is the BBR stage II at idle. Not to rough for a DD IMO.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=13pA6O0cm...elated&search=

DD??

dd is daily driving...

Lazyracer · October 11th, 2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT

Ok you win lol.

The thing is the mod motors dont really benefit from a super aggresive cam.

Interesting comment, whats the rationale behind it?

jat · October 11th, 2007, 02:23 PM

that was in reference to when i showed him the big cammed vette...

cuz he was saying bbr stage 2 cams r big.. technically they are for OUR cars but not that because we can only go so much till it starts hurting our performance..

pushrods are different obviously because its a different type of motor and lets say a big cam will help them but hurt us..

Goose 07 · October 11th, 2007, 02:24 PM

Does anybody know if the BBR stage II's give good results w/o adding heads?

jat · October 11th, 2007, 02:35 PM

every1 i know that has em did the heads.. theres no point in going halfway.. do it all..

October 9th, 2007, 06:38 AM	#1
Lazyracer Regular 05 GT 13.14@104 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 135 iTrader: 0 reviews	Cam swap out I am thinking of replacing the cam in my 05 as my next power mod and I am looking at the crane kit from Bama; Camshaft kit 127350. Does anyone have any experience of this cam on the street as well as the strip? Any other reccomendations?? Leading on from this will be gas to get up to 500BHP (Im guessing 75hp jets), any thoughts on weaknesses in the stock short motor or transmission? __________________ www.streetandstrip.co.uk 05 GT, spec in garage

October 9th, 2007, 09:31 PM	#2
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	A 100 shot should be the max IMO, but I say the BBR Stage II cams. They are pretty aggresive, but still streetable. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 10th, 2007, 04:33 AM	#3
Lazyracer Regular 05 GT 13.14@104 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 135 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks, that makes sense; I guess thats Dougs part no. 127300? It has an exhaust duration of 274. I heard that for street, 270 is about the max. Im going to stick to 100 shot of gas next season as you state; I use the car big time every day and I reckon Ill be about 485bhp (with gas). The combined motor mods and gas should be inside the transmission and bottom end tolerances. I like the idea of gas as it is only on at the strip so the motor is only on about 385 on the street. Thanks for your input, do you agree with this logic?? __________________ www.streetandstrip.co.uk 05 GT, spec in garage

October 10th, 2007, 12:04 PM	#4
Goose 07 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lazyracer I am also considering a cam swap as my next mod, and after talking to Doug (Bamachips), he recommended the 127350, or the new 127400 cam for my 07 GT. He said that these cams will give you the classic idle we all love, and they are still streetable. I also use my car as a daily driver, and I feel like the BBR stage II's might be a bit much. I will probably stop by BBR sometime soon, and talk to those guys about their stage II cam. I just want to make sure that I don't over cam the car. Are you also going to port and polish the heads? __________________ 2007 Mustang GT/CS White 5 speed C&L CAI w/ BAMA Tune BBK Ceramic Shorty Headers Magna Flow O/R X-Pipes Magna Flow Mufflers 3.73 Gears

October 10th, 2007, 03:18 PM	#6
Lazyracer Regular 05 GT 13.14@104 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 135 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have thought about the heads, I understand that there can be serious gains from doing this. Make sure you post up what BBR say. Ive got a lot of faith in BAMA and I have also had no probs with BBR so its a tough call whats the difference between the 127400' cam you mentioned, I cant see it on Dougs site? __________________ www.streetandstrip.co.uk 05 GT, spec in garage

October 10th, 2007, 12:16 PM	#5
jat Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maspeth , Queens, NYC Posts: 1,341 iTrader: 0 reviews	my friend has a jdm stroker with bbr stage 2 cams and ported and polished heads.. he makes amazing power with his turbo and this set up..reason im saying this it is a dd I don't hink its too aggressive at all

October 10th, 2007, 09:34 PM	#7
Goose 07 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	Doug doesnt have the 127400 up on his site, but he can get it for you. Its a new cam that COMP CAMS just released. Its almost as aggressive a cam as the BBR stage II. The first I had heard of the 127400 was when Doug mentioned it. The 127400 is also called the COMP CAM stage IV. __________________ 2007 Mustang GT/CS White 5 speed C&L CAI w/ BAMA Tune BBK Ceramic Shorty Headers Magna Flow O/R X-Pipes Magna Flow Mufflers 3.73 Gears

October 10th, 2007, 09:46 PM	#8
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	Here is the BBR stage II at idle. Not to rough for a DD IMO. http://youtube.com/watch?v=13pA6O0cm...elated&search= __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 10th, 2007, 10:25 PM	#9
jat Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maspeth , Queens, NYC Posts: 1,341 iTrader: 0 reviews	bbr stage 2 cams dont sound rough at all just listen to mti cams for vettes.. lol it makes bbr sound like kids throwing pebbles on pavement... but since its the only thing we s197s have id get bbr stage 2s

October 10th, 2007, 10:28 PM	#10
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	This is a rough idle :wink http://youtube.com/watch?v=GchDT2hrYns __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 10th, 2007, 10:32 PM	#11
jat Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maspeth , Queens, NYC Posts: 1,341 iTrader: 0 reviews	http://youtube.com/watch?v=DG65mcICyuY sry to say it but that is a big cam.. the bbr is nothing to this.. lol

October 10th, 2007, 10:37 PM	#12
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	Ok you win lol. The thing is the mod motors dont really benefit from a super aggresive cam. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 10th, 2007, 11:16 PM	#13
jat Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maspeth , Queens, NYC Posts: 1,341 iTrader: 0 reviews	i know but i just had to show it... lol wish we could throw in something like this...

October 11th, 2007, 12:26 AM	#14
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	That thing can't idle lol __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 11th, 2007, 02:23 PM	#18
jat Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maspeth , Queens, NYC Posts: 1,341 iTrader: 0 reviews	that was in reference to when i showed him the big cammed vette... cuz he was saying bbr stage 2 cams r big.. technically they are for OUR cars but not that because we can only go so much till it starts hurting our performance.. pushrods are different obviously because its a different type of motor and lets say a big cam will help them but hurt us..

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October 11th, 2007, 02:24 PM	#19
Goose 07 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	Does anybody know if the BBR stage II's give good results w/o adding heads? __________________ 2007 Mustang GT/CS White 5 speed C&L CAI w/ BAMA Tune BBK Ceramic Shorty Headers Magna Flow O/R X-Pipes Magna Flow Mufflers 3.73 Gears

October 11th, 2007, 02:35 PM	#20
jat Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maspeth , Queens, NYC Posts: 1,341 iTrader: 0 reviews	every1 i know that has em did the heads.. theres no point in going halfway.. do it all..

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