99-04 vs 05+ GT's

MacGill · October 12th, 2007, 12:29 PM

Hi all,

this is my first post to MM and I've come looking for some opinions!! I currently own an 01 GT, which is the first stang that I have owned, and I am pretty happy with it. The engine is completely stock and my only mods are Eichbach pro kit lowering springs and flowmasters. I have never been in an 05+ GT but love the looks of them.

Here's my delemma..... I am going straight to Kenne Bell for my engine mod but in reviewing their technical data it appears that the 3v is the way to go. As I'll be spending $5k+ on the s/c, I am wondering if I am better off selling mine and purchasing an 05+ GT because of the added power it will make.

I've read many reviews on both models but I always feel that it's better going to people who own them for their thoughts. This is why I am posting this in the 05+ section....hopefully someone has owned both models and can shed some light for me. Pound for pound is the 05+ GT that much better??

Sorry about the long post but I wasn't able to find any info in the forums..so I'm hoping you all can help!!

Thx..

MacGill

2001 Black Mustang GT
Eichbach Pro Kit
Flowmasters

ShelbyGT · October 12th, 2007, 12:36 PM

Well i owned a 05GT and i loved it to death the power was nice to have i never did any engine mods except exhaust and i was abouts to lower so idk not much help from here i guess

onederful100 · October 12th, 2007, 02:16 PM

i think the difference in HP is about 20-40. if your 01 engine is still good i would keep it and get the KB, it would save money. then after you put a lot of miles on it u can sell it and get a s197 later. or if you got all this extra money burning a hole in your pocket you can loan some to me and i can put a KB in my s197.

HMUSN · October 12th, 2007, 02:19 PM

the 3v will make more power than the 2v mod for mod.

you could always just get a 4v and beat them both

welcome to the forums.

JAY'SRED02 · October 12th, 2007, 03:15 PM

Let me say first welcome to the site! I had a 02 gt before I got my 2006 and there is a major difference in the two. MY 02 had almost every bolt-on part you could buy except gears and it was a blast to drive and the only thing left to do was a supercharger. My 06 has cold air intake,brenspeed tune and exhaust. It will blow my other car away with just those mods. The interior is much better as well. If your wanting more power and have the money to spend go get you a 03-04 cobra you can get one with low miles for about what you'll spend on a newer model car. I drove two of them before I got the 06 and they are bad stock. I wanted the cobra but the wife stepped in and over-ruled me. She had a fit over the new car so there you have it.

06RedfireGT · October 12th, 2007, 06:05 PM

Mod for mod the 05 is faster, it handles better, and the interior is much nicer, as is the stock sound system. I had an 02 and 03 GT before this one and I can say it is far superior. How mush would you be willing to spend on a new car?

MacGill · October 12th, 2007, 08:02 PM

Thanks for all the responses....I will have this car paid off next year and if I flip it.. listing prices in Canada for a black 01 GT with 57k miles is anywhere from 12-15k(high) (autotrader.ca) depending on the condition of the car, which in my case is pretty mint (second owner) but I think the quick sale would be $12-$13k. I just bought the car in July from the USA and the underneath still looks brand new! If all goes to plan and I get the quick sale I would use this as a down payment for the 05+. I've checked both autotrader & ebay (where I found this car) and anywhere from $21-25k you can get a low mile 05 GT (excluding performance upgraded or kits.)

I was thinking a corba but I read an article on Kenne Bell (sorry no link) which was titled "3V the new 4V" and they had nothing but great things to say about the 3V. Question....and sorry if the comparison has already been made,

If I put a 2.6L KB on the 05+GT, which would be all the performance I would need or want, and aside from which one you could make faster, would I be getting an overall better made car?

Thx again....

MacGill

2001 Black Mustang GT
Eichbach Lowering Springs
Flowmaster Exhaust

06RedfireGT · October 12th, 2007, 08:19 PM

The Cobra will smoke the GT anyday of the week unless you mess with the GTs internals. The Cobra has forged internals meaning you can boost the hell out of it and make huge HP. If you can find a low miles Cobra for a good price, then jump on it. And make sure it is a 2003 or 2004 Cobra.

MacGill · October 12th, 2007, 08:55 PM

So the Cobra's are the real deal then??

Thx...

MacGill

2001 Black Mustang GT
Eichback Lowering Springs
Flowmaster Exhaust

Jucostud · October 12th, 2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by MacGill

So the Cobra's are the real deal then??

Thx...

MacGill

2001 Black Mustang GT
Eichback Lowering Springs
Flowmaster Exhaust

only the 03-04 cobra's. If you can't find one of those, then get a 05+

HMUSN · October 12th, 2007, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by MacGill

So the Cobra's are the real deal then??

they are as real as it gets..

07gtmustang · October 12th, 2007, 09:25 PM

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07gtmustang · October 12th, 2007, 09:26 PM

sorry broke the internet, don't know how to do the, click here thing help

HMUSN · October 12th, 2007, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by 07gtmustang

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now just edit your post and highlight what I wrote

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MacGill · October 12th, 2007, 09:31 PM

So I have another quick question.... any changes or upgrades made on the 04 Cobra vs the 03?

thx.....

MacGill

HMUSN · October 12th, 2007, 09:32 PM

the 03's had a head tick issue.

it was fixed in the 04's and most of the 03's.

MacGill · October 12th, 2007, 09:38 PM

I see.... I've just been looking on the net at some 03-04's...are these engines ok even into the higher miles? Someone was telling me that they are pretty much bullet proof?

Thx.....

MacGill

HMUSN · October 12th, 2007, 09:40 PM

yes.. they are very good engines.

and you are correct about being almost bullet proof.

forged internals and a blower from the factory is a good thing.

06RedfireGT · October 12th, 2007, 11:01 PM

You might as well call them bullet proof. The have had more than 1000hp on an internally stock motor.

+1 to Juco. If you can't find a 03-04 Cobra get a 2005+ GT.

MacGill · October 13th, 2007, 03:28 PM

Well thanks for all the advice...much appreciated!!

One last thing....and please correct me if I'm wrong. For my 01 GT I've been told not to surpass approx 425rwhp otherwise I will need to start upgrading internal engine parts. From what I've been told here...I won't have to worry about it with an 03-04 Cobra (as I will never hit 1000 hp). So if I find a deal that I can't pass up on an 05+ what limit (RWHP) is safe to reach on the 3V (with a KB) before I would need to worry about further internal upgrades.

Thx again...

October 12th, 2007, 12:29 PM	#1
MacGill Regular 2001 Mustang GT 13.46 @ 104.3 3 year old tires Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 200 iTrader: 0 reviews	99-04 vs 05+ GT's Hi all, this is my first post to MM and I've come looking for some opinions!! I currently own an 01 GT, which is the first stang that I have owned, and I am pretty happy with it. The engine is completely stock and my only mods are Eichbach pro kit lowering springs and flowmasters. I have never been in an 05+ GT but love the looks of them. Here's my delemma..... I am going straight to Kenne Bell for my engine mod but in reviewing their technical data it appears that the 3v is the way to go. As I'll be spending $5k+ on the s/c, I am wondering if I am better off selling mine and purchasing an 05+ GT because of the added power it will make. I've read many reviews on both models but I always feel that it's better going to people who own them for their thoughts. This is why I am posting this in the 05+ section....hopefully someone has owned both models and can shed some light for me. Pound for pound is the 05+ GT that much better?? Sorry about the long post but I wasn't able to find any info in the forums..so I'm hoping you all can help!! Thx.. MacGill 2001 Black Mustang GT Eichbach Pro Kit Flowmasters

October 12th, 2007, 12:36 PM	#2
ShelbyGT Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 83 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well i owned a 05GT and i loved it to death the power was nice to have i never did any engine mods except exhaust and i was abouts to lower so idk not much help from here i guess __________________ Is it that bad? to have love and lost than to have never loved at all?

October 12th, 2007, 02:16 PM	#3
onederful100 Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 GT 2000 GT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,843 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think the difference in HP is about 20-40. if your 01 engine is still good i would keep it and get the KB, it would save money. then after you put a lot of miles on it u can sell it and get a s197 later. or if you got all this extra money burning a hole in your pocket you can loan some to me and i can put a KB in my s197. __________________ 2007 GT 5spd 2000 GT 5spd whipple crew member 2-Stang Crew My Car

October 12th, 2007, 02:19 PM	#4
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	the 3v will make more power than the 2v mod for mod. you could always just get a 4v and beat them both welcome to the forums. __________________

October 12th, 2007, 06:05 PM	#6
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,206 iTrader: 2 reviews	Mod for mod the 05 is faster, it handles better, and the interior is much nicer, as is the stock sound system. I had an 02 and 03 GT before this one and I can say it is far superior. How mush would you be willing to spend on a new car? __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 12th, 2007, 03:15 PM	#5
JAY'SRED02 Enthusiast 2006 mustang gt Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tennessee (GO VOLS!) Posts: 538 iTrader: 0 reviews	Let me say first welcome to the site! I had a 02 gt before I got my 2006 and there is a major difference in the two. MY 02 had almost every bolt-on part you could buy except gears and it was a blast to drive and the only thing left to do was a supercharger. My 06 has cold air intake,brenspeed tune and exhaust. It will blow my other car away with just those mods. The interior is much better as well. If your wanting more power and have the money to spend go get you a 03-04 cobra you can get one with low miles for about what you'll spend on a newer model car. I drove two of them before I got the 06 and they are bad stock. I wanted the cobra but the wife stepped in and over-ruled me. She had a fit over the new car so there you have it.

October 12th, 2007, 08:02 PM	#7
MacGill Regular 2001 Mustang GT 13.46 @ 104.3 3 year old tires Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 200 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks for all the responses....I will have this car paid off next year and if I flip it.. listing prices in Canada for a black 01 GT with 57k miles is anywhere from 12-15k(high) (autotrader.ca) depending on the condition of the car, which in my case is pretty mint (second owner) but I think the quick sale would be $12-$13k. I just bought the car in July from the USA and the underneath still looks brand new! If all goes to plan and I get the quick sale I would use this as a down payment for the 05+. I've checked both autotrader & ebay (where I found this car) and anywhere from $21-25k you can get a low mile 05 GT (excluding performance upgraded or kits.) I was thinking a corba but I read an article on Kenne Bell (sorry no link) which was titled "3V the new 4V" and they had nothing but great things to say about the 3V. Question....and sorry if the comparison has already been made, If I put a 2.6L KB on the 05+GT, which would be all the performance I would need or want, and aside from which one you could make faster, would I be getting an overall better made car? Thx again.... MacGill 2001 Black Mustang GT Eichbach Lowering Springs Flowmaster Exhaust

October 12th, 2007, 08:19 PM	#8
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,206 iTrader: 2 reviews	The Cobra will smoke the GT anyday of the week unless you mess with the GTs internals. The Cobra has forged internals meaning you can boost the hell out of it and make huge HP. If you can find a low miles Cobra for a good price, then jump on it. And make sure it is a 2003 or 2004 Cobra. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 12th, 2007, 08:55 PM	#9
MacGill Regular 2001 Mustang GT 13.46 @ 104.3 3 year old tires Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 200 iTrader: 0 reviews	So the Cobra's are the real deal then?? Thx... MacGill 2001 Black Mustang GT Eichback Lowering Springs Flowmaster Exhaust

October 12th, 2007, 09:25 PM	#12
07gtmustang Enthusiast 2007 GT Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 555 iTrader: 0 reviews	click

October 12th, 2007, 09:26 PM	#13
07gtmustang Enthusiast 2007 GT Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 555 iTrader: 0 reviews	sorry broke the internet, don't know how to do the, click here thing help

October 12th, 2007, 09:31 PM	#15
MacGill Regular 2001 Mustang GT 13.46 @ 104.3 3 year old tires Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 200 iTrader: 0 reviews	So I have another quick question.... any changes or upgrades made on the 04 Cobra vs the 03? thx..... MacGill

October 12th, 2007, 09:32 PM	#16
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	the 03's had a head tick issue. it was fixed in the 04's and most of the 03's. __________________

October 12th, 2007, 09:38 PM	#17
MacGill Regular 2001 Mustang GT 13.46 @ 104.3 3 year old tires Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 200 iTrader: 0 reviews	I see.... I've just been looking on the net at some 03-04's...are these engines ok even into the higher miles? Someone was telling me that they are pretty much bullet proof? Thx..... MacGill

October 12th, 2007, 09:40 PM	#18
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	yes.. they are very good engines. and you are correct about being almost bullet proof. forged internals and a blower from the factory is a good thing. __________________

October 12th, 2007, 11:01 PM	#19
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,206 iTrader: 2 reviews	You might as well call them bullet proof. The have had more than 1000hp on an internally stock motor. +1 to Juco. If you can't find a 03-04 Cobra get a 2005+ GT. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 13th, 2007, 03:28 PM	#20
MacGill Regular 2001 Mustang GT 13.46 @ 104.3 3 year old tires Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 200 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well thanks for all the advice...much appreciated!! One last thing....and please correct me if I'm wrong. For my 01 GT I've been told not to surpass approx 425rwhp otherwise I will need to start upgrading internal engine parts. From what I've been told here...I won't have to worry about it with an 03-04 Cobra (as I will never hit 1000 hp). So if I find a deal that I can't pass up on an 05+ what limit (RWHP) is safe to reach on the 3V (with a KB) before I would need to worry about further internal upgrades. Thx again... __________________ MacGill

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