Work done but I am not sure if the hp is right

1FastFox · October 25th, 2007, 12:13 PM

Look at the RPM range, its not even reach the top of the gears, plus with full exhaust, intake ( even if it is KN ), and a dynotune is good for as much as we are saying, and its more than 30hp, our cars stock have 30 at the crank and dynos read at the wheels...

Jucostud · October 25th, 2007, 12:19 PM

she didn't say if she had long tubes. I just didn't think that that little of mods would get you over 300hp.

HMUSN · October 25th, 2007, 12:22 PM

^ she basically has your set up but you have a better intake.

what are you putting down?

Jucostud · October 25th, 2007, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

^ she basically has your set up but you have a better intake.

what are you putting down?

I don't know. I have the same set up as stanglifemike, minus the UDP's, and he is at 306.7hp and 319torq. So i figure around 295hp.
http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...tml?highlight=

^^^a link to his thread.

PrettyPony07 · October 25th, 2007, 01:05 PM

ok I am going to call the guy back and have him look at it. does it look like it is running rich?

PrettyPony07 · October 25th, 2007, 01:12 PM

So a CNL CIA is better then the K&N?

Jucostud · October 25th, 2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by PrettyPony07

So a CNL CIA is better then the K&N?

way better, The JLT and C&L CAI's are the two best on the market. They will both give you about 28 rwhp. The JLT is a lot cheaper though.

Emay · October 25th, 2007, 01:47 PM

Pretty, the car looks fine in terms a/f, your not rich and it's decently flat across the rpm range. I've seen flatter, but more focus is given to that on a boosted car. Looks good for naturally aspirated..

Do you know what RPM they shut down the pull at. I gotta second fasts comments, looks like they cut out pretty dang early...

Emay · October 25th, 2007, 01:48 PM

Also, hows the car feel to you now, better than before in the seat of the pants?

MaverickMLFD371 · October 25th, 2007, 08:55 PM

291 sounds about right, your not going to get much power out of that K&N intake, no matter how much you tune it, you'll get 2HP more over the 15 HP when you dont have a tune. C&L or a JLT intake would of put you around the 305 range. you got the tune, but you got the wrong intake.

Jucostud · October 25th, 2007, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by MaverickMLFD371

291 sounds about right, your not going to get much power out of that K&N intake, no matter how much you tune it, you'll get 2HP more over the 15 HP when you dont have a tune. C&L or a JLT intake would of put you around the 305 range. you got the tune, but you got the wrong intake.

I knew those numbers sounded about right.

Grabber523 · October 25th, 2007, 09:09 PM

Shouldn't that A/F ratio be a little richer? Say 11.5 to 12.5?? IDK about NA, but that seems pretty lean...are you sure that the tune loaded properly? Mine was a bitch, had to do it 4 times to get it to load up...do you have another dyno close by?

kkdoughboy · October 25th, 2007, 11:00 PM

What size wheels are you running? Numbers may be right with 19's or 20's. The dyno tuner probably didnt want to take the time to max out performance for you. In my experience you cant find anyone that really gives a shit about your car unless you personally know them.

PrettyPony07 · October 26th, 2007, 08:49 AM

I do feel the difference since getting the tune. It seems to not be as sluggish. I just thought the dyno looked a little off in comparison to my friend's car with the same amount of work. I called the guy yesterday and he basically said that the K&N sucks and I need to get something different. I am going to get a copy of the baseline today (went sailing last night so I didn't get a chance to stop down there). I have only had the car for 2 months so there are still plenty of things to learn and do to it. Next on the list is pulleys and shifter. BTW anyone know the stock rwhp?

leebunnyz · October 26th, 2007, 12:13 PM

round 267-270 whp

thurman · October 28th, 2007, 07:41 AM

I have to agree with mavrick. Though 291 seems a little low, it is not that far off. I have cams, long tubes etv. And I am at 335 rwhp.
Change to C&L and you numbers will get better.

05mustang_TT_charged · October 28th, 2007, 09:38 AM

They shut the pull down at 6800 rpm. look at the bottom of the graph :wink
those numbers seem close to where you should be, the air fuel is around 13 to 1 and that is a ok for naturally aspirated motors for wide open throttle, they usually keep them around 12.8 to 1 though

the reason it fell flat on it's face on top end was because he was probably floating the valves, the rotating assembly is good to 7000 rpm, but the valvetrain is good for about 6400 rpm before you start floating the valves, i wouldn't run it past 6100 rpm unless you have cams, besides that you are just wasting your time

05mustang_TT_charged · October 28th, 2007, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

do you have an auto?

that should be crossing at 5252
that would bring you into the 315rwhp range.

that is only on an engine dyno

TheUNZippee! · October 28th, 2007, 10:15 AM

291 sounds about right for just an intake, exhaust, and tune, IMO.

In stock form our cars rear wheel at about 255 - 270 hp, depending on the car and the dyno. So you've picked up roughly 30 rwhp from stock, which is a normal gain seen from your modifications. The majority of that gain coming from your CAI & tune.

October 25th, 2007, 12:13 PM	#21
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October 25th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#23
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,049 iTrader: 11 reviews	^ she basically has your set up but you have a better intake. what are you putting down? __________________

October 25th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#28
Emay May 08 ROTM 2008 Audi S6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: S. Elgin Posts: 6,684 iTrader: 3 reviews	Pretty, the car looks fine in terms a/f, your not rich and it's decently flat across the rpm range. I've seen flatter, but more focus is given to that on a boosted car. Looks good for naturally aspirated.. Do you know what RPM they shut down the pull at. I gotta second fasts comments, looks like they cut out pretty dang early... __________________ FLICKR Unique Imagery

October 25th, 2007, 01:48 PM	#29
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October 25th, 2007, 01:05 PM	#25
PrettyPony07 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 17 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok I am going to call the guy back and have him look at it. does it look like it is running rich?

October 25th, 2007, 01:12 PM	#26
PrettyPony07 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 17 iTrader: 0 reviews	So a CNL CIA is better then the K&N?

October 25th, 2007, 08:55 PM	#30
MaverickMLFD371 Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,462 iTrader: 0 reviews	291 sounds about right, your not going to get much power out of that K&N intake, no matter how much you tune it, you'll get 2HP more over the 15 HP when you dont have a tune. C&L or a JLT intake would of put you around the 305 range. you got the tune, but you got the wrong intake.

October 25th, 2007, 09:09 PM	#32
Grabber523 Your Mom's Favorite 2007 Mustang GT Eats Chevys, Shits Imports... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scott AFB, Illinois Posts: 2,490 iTrader: 0 reviews	Shouldn't that A/F ratio be a little richer? Say 11.5 to 12.5?? IDK about NA, but that seems pretty lean...are you sure that the tune loaded properly? Mine was a bitch, had to do it 4 times to get it to load up...do you have another dyno close by? __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...p-vote-me.html TEAM RICER GT CREW MEMBER (11 SECOND RIDE WITH A 12 SECOND DRIVER) MEMBERS AGAINST MEMBERS AGAINST STUFF CREW FOUNDER TRUNK MONKEY CREW FOUNDER

October 25th, 2007, 11:00 PM	#33
kkdoughboy Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 reviews	What size wheels are you running? Numbers may be right with 19's or 20's. The dyno tuner probably didnt want to take the time to max out performance for you. In my experience you cant find anyone that really gives a shit about your car unless you personally know them.

October 26th, 2007, 08:49 AM	#34
PrettyPony07 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 17 iTrader: 0 reviews	I do feel the difference since getting the tune. It seems to not be as sluggish. I just thought the dyno looked a little off in comparison to my friend's car with the same amount of work. I called the guy yesterday and he basically said that the K&N sucks and I need to get something different. I am going to get a copy of the baseline today (went sailing last night so I didn't get a chance to stop down there). I have only had the car for 2 months so there are still plenty of things to learn and do to it. Next on the list is pulleys and shifter. BTW anyone know the stock rwhp?

October 26th, 2007, 12:13 PM	#35
leebunnyz MM Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 3,550 iTrader: 0 reviews	round 267-270 whp __________________ Jesus Christ is #1 "The Founder Of Crews"

October 28th, 2007, 07:41 AM	#36
thurman Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 11 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have to agree with mavrick. Though 291 seems a little low, it is not that far off. I have cams, long tubes etv. And I am at 335 rwhp. Change to C&L and you numbers will get better. __________________ 07 gt comp cams,kooks,shaker,bmr upr & lwr, hurst,4.10's,diablo,zex,procharger 14psi,d specs,spydershaft,udp's,dr's,chin classic,ductail,corsa's,8 pt roll cage

October 28th, 2007, 09:38 AM	#37
05mustang_TT_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 10.32@137.70 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 2,774 iTrader: 0 reviews	They shut the pull down at 6800 rpm. look at the bottom of the graph :wink those numbers seem close to where you should be, the air fuel is around 13 to 1 and that is a ok for naturally aspirated motors for wide open throttle, they usually keep them around 12.8 to 1 though the reason it fell flat on it's face on top end was because he was probably floating the valves, the rotating assembly is good to 7000 rpm, but the valvetrain is good for about 6400 rpm before you start floating the valves, i wouldn't run it past 6100 rpm unless you have cams, besides that you are just wasting your time __________________ 350 rwhp and 310 rwtq at 6000 rpms through stock exhaust system 326 cubic inches of Twin Turbocharged hell will be running soon Tuned by Wes @ TPS

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