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Nitrous Questions
Ok, first off I'll admit it I am nervous about using nitrous on my car. I have herd horror stories and I dont want to risk my engine, period. With that being said I really like the idea of having 50+ HP at my fingertips if needed. What are the risks or potential problems that could affect my engine. Is there a safe level that with minimal use would not harm my engine in stock form? I am looking at the Edelbrock Dry shot plate kit with 50 shot nozzle PN#70410. I do not want to have to get the bottom end beefed up yet just to run a 50 shot when I can get more power with a super charger and no bottom end. Just let me know your views and experience please.
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you will be fine brah. you don't have to beef up the bottom end for a 50 shot what so ever. i am running a 100 shot on my car and love it.
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how long have you been running the 100 shot? and how often do you use it?
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A 50 shot of nitrous is completely safe -- you can go up to 100 shot with a dry kit and be fine -- anything more & you'll need to go with a wet kit. The bottom end of the s197 can handle 450 tops... your flirting with danger if you push harder then that without forged internals.
You know what they say about nitrous --> "Nitrous is like a hot chick with an STD... we all wanna hit it but are scared of the consequences"
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never been scared of hitting the nitrous. it's as safe asa supercharger and i have just about every safety precaution one could get.
it's been on the car for about 2 years now and i used to use it all the time. now i just use it when i am at the track. i am acutally thinking of stepping up to the 150 shot |
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What about the heat and stress on the engine, will it cause any long term effects? The article I read on it said with the 50-80 shot there was no need for a tune with the edelbrock kit. From What you all are saying I am really thinking of making this one of my future mods. I like the Idea of having 80 hp there if I need it, and when I dont it has no other affect on the car. Seems like a win win situation to me.
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Nitrous can be safe,I use the 100 shot wet kit for about 6 months now.
best bet get a tune even with a 50 shot.
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There are alot of safety measures you can use with nitrous. When I was running it on my 06, I used a wide open throttle switch ( nitrous at anything other than wide open is a no no ) and a window switch, which only activates within a certain rpm range, is recomended... I tune isnt nessisary that small of a shot of nitrous, but you will get more out of it with a tune. Also, remeber with a 50hp shot you will only get roughly 42 out of it...
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50 to 100 shot is safe per everyone's reviews. I've alwasy been a worry when it comes to nitrous. but just stay within that range and get a dyno tune, you'll be fine.
without proper tuning, you'll end up like this!! or this |
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if you are using a dry kit make sure you spray before the mass air meter, this will help with the fuel delivery, and i would recommend getting a tune even with a 50 shot you can blow it up
i speak from experience
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You will be okay just spraying a 50 shot. It would not be a bad idea to put the car on the dyno and make sure that your A/F ratio is safe. You don't want to run lean when you spray. If you go with the dry kit and ever plan on upping to a bigger shot you need to look into upgrading your fuel system.
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wht is the difference between wet and dry NOS kits?
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I was going to point the OP to that Mustang blowing off his manifold if it wasn't posted already haha.
50 shot is fine, 100 shot is fine. Just get a good tune.
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dry just sprays nitrous, wet is nitrous and fuel
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Yeah, I figured out the wet vs dry question, now which is better? it seems like dry kits are a lot simpler to install than wet kits but othere than ease of installation what are the advantages / disadvantages of each. I also found a Nitrous Express kit that looks a bit better than the Edelbrock kit I mentioned earlier. A little more expensive but I like the features better.
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a wet kit is easier to tune as far as getting a good A/F ratio.
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+1 on wet system
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Yup, it's much easier to keep a good consistant A/F ratio with a wet shot. There will be some big changes for dry coming soon. Nitrous Express has already developed a new system for the GM LSX engines. It's a unit that replaces the MAF sensor and with the turn of a screw you can adjust the mixture of fuel and nitrous on the fly basically within tenths. It will only be a matter of time before something like this is available for modular motors.
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I got in touch with Nitrous Express they said in the 50-75 shot range that I want I would be fine with no tune and only two step colder spark plugs. They said up to 100 shot would be good but with the removal of some timing. They also said you could safely spray 150 on the stock bottom end. Well just to be sure I e-mailed Brenspeed asking to confirm or deny this. If they say the same thing I will be adding the Nitrous Express 4.6 Liter 3 valve Plate system p/n20947-10 to my list of to do mods.
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Ok the final word on my nitrous quandry is That I am adding the Nitrous Express 4.6 liter 3 valve Plate system to my list of Mods to do probibly with a 50 or 75 hp shot. I got an e-mail back from Brenspeed last night and they confirmed what I was told by NX. I do not need a tune for running Nitrous below a 100 shot, but that they could write a tune that would work with and without nitrous. So in the end I feel better about doing it, based upon your opinions and confirmed by both the manufacturer and Brenspeed. I probibly will not do it till late next year but it is now on the list.
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