Whipple or kenne bell

hbjarosek · December 31st, 2007, 02:53 PM

i am going to get a supercharger but i am not sure witch one to go with. after researching i narrowed it down to the whipple or kenne bell. what is your apinon about these

usafimj · December 31st, 2007, 03:10 PM

I would go with the Whipple HO kit. It comes with everything you need. Only thing you may need are different spark plugs. Contact Gunny or Grabber523 on that issue. Pretty sure theres others on here with whipples. Also gauges to keep a check on everything. Good luck

06VistaGT · December 31st, 2007, 03:18 PM

+1 on the Whipple. The kit comes with absolutely everything you need. The KB is badass but would require more work and money to get running right. I am probably gonna strap on Whipple once i get back home.

VaporS197 · December 31st, 2007, 04:54 PM

I'm ordering the Whipple in a week. I was hoping to go with the 500hp kit, but I don't have the extra $1500 ( that's for installation

)

I think they are both very comparable, but I like the looks of the Whipple, honestly, over the KB. Seems easier to upgrade to the 500 kit, too.

usafimj · December 31st, 2007, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by VaporS197

I'm ordering the Whipple in a week. I was hoping to go with the 500hp kit, but I don't have the extra $1500 ( that's for installation )

I think they are both very comparable, but I like the looks of the Whipple, honestly, over the KB. Seems easier to upgrade to the 500 kit, too.

I would just buy it all at one time. better to be safe than sorry. The the HO kit

06VistaGT · December 31st, 2007, 05:07 PM

If the KB came with a more complete kit like the Whipple i would probably get it. I've always heard good things about KB. +1 usafimj on getting the HO kit. Get it all done right from the start.

VaporS197 · December 31st, 2007, 05:09 PM

I have a stock GT. Can you bolt the 500 kit right on to a stock motor? I've heard contradicting things...

To be honest, I would rather do that!

adam0421 · December 31st, 2007, 05:10 PM

between KB and Whipple, which one has a more pronounced whine to it?

usafimj · December 31st, 2007, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by VaporS197

I have a stock GT. Can you bolt the 500 kit right on to a stock motor? I've heard contradicting things...

To be honest, I would rather do that!

You should be able to bolt up the 500hp HO kit. Just dont get to close to the 500hp mark cuz then your pushing it with the internals

2006greyGT · December 31st, 2007, 05:44 PM

I don't know about a Whipple but my KB 2.6 really doesn't make that much whine,in fact it is more of a whooop. the only time you can hear whine much is at idol. I didn't have to buy anything extra to install this SC. It came complete as well.

06RedfireGT · December 31st, 2007, 06:02 PM

I would say the Whipple because it has the same capability as the KB, but the HO kit is more complete because it comes with the GT500 fuel pumps, where the KB has the BAP.

Wado · December 31st, 2007, 06:31 PM

I would highly recommend the Whipple its quiet and the kit is very complete. The quality of this kits is OEM level Whipple worked with Ford on this product and it shows.
The air cleaner set up on the KB was a real deal breaker for me, you have to cut the core support and hang the air cleaner out in the breeze. I found the Whipple design to be a much more elegant solution.

05mustang_TT_charged · December 31st, 2007, 07:16 PM

the whipple sound

YouTube - Steve's Mustang GT Whipple - Dyno Pulls

the kenne bell sound

05mustang_TT_charged · December 31st, 2007, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Wado

I would highly recommend the Whipple its quiet and the kit is very complete. The quality of this kits is OEM level Whipple worked with Ford on this product and it shows.
The air cleaner set up on the KB was a real deal breaker for me, you have to cut the core support and hang the air cleaner out in the breeze. I found the Whipple design to be a much more elegant solution.

but when your car starts pulling timing because of hot air from engine my car will still be running the 23 degrees because it is getting fresh air from behind the front bumper.

another thing everyone is complaining about complete kits. if you do not get everything you need in the kit to put the car together and drive it then it isn't a complete kit. the whipple kit comes with a GT500 fuel pump setup and kenne bell uses a boost a pump, well guess what they BOTH provide you with fuel needed to support the horsepower. (SORRY) there is no 2 ways about it, they took different roads to get the problem fixed and guess what they both did. i did not have to purchase anything for my kenne bell kit, I opted to buy new colder plugs but they weren't mandatory.

nothing against whipple and don't want to sound biased to kenne bell but unless something changed the whipple is a 2.3l and the kenne bell a 2.6l, which makes the kenne bell more efficient because it is a larger displacement compressor. i like the whipple kit because you don't have to cut into your main wiring harness like the kenne bell kit. i also like that the whipple doesn't need an upgraded housing 2.6l "S" (8-14psi.) and 2.6l "H" (15-24psi.) to up the boost into the higher boost range. but i do like that kenne bell does offer 2 kits and makes the higher boost kit more efficient when running higher boost.

that is all i can think of for now.

hammeron · December 31st, 2007, 10:17 PM

i say both whipple and kenne bell are
fantastic kits. most anyone , would
be happy with either one really.

Wado · January 1st, 2008, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by 05mustang_kb_charged

but when your car starts pulling timing because of hot air from engine my car will still be running the 23 degrees because it is getting fresh air from behind the front bumper.

another thing everyone is complaining about complete kits. if you do not get everything you need in the kit to put the car together and drive it then it isn't a complete kit. the whipple kit comes with a GT500 fuel pump setup and kenne bell uses a boost a pump, well guess what they BOTH provide you with fuel needed to support the horsepower. (SORRY) there is no 2 ways about it, they took different roads to get the problem fixed and guess what they both did. i did not have to purchase anything for my kenne bell kit, I opted to buy new colder plugs but they weren't mandatory.

nothing against whipple and don't want to sound biased to kenne bell but unless something changed the whipple is a 2.3l and the kenne bell a 2.6l, which makes the kenne bell more efficient because it is a larger displacement compressor. i like the whipple kit because you don't have to cut into your main wiring harness like the kenne bell kit. i also like that the whipple doesn't need an upgraded housing 2.6l "S" (8-14psi.) and 2.6l "H" (15-24psi.) to up the boost into the higher boost range. but i do like that kenne bell does offer 2 kits and makes the higher boost kit more efficient when running higher boost.

that is all i can think of for now.

Unfortunately i did have to cut the wiring harness under the hood to extend some wires. I have nothing against the KB in fact thats the direction I was leaning initially. I didn't want to have to cut my core support that was a biggie for me and that intake runner sorry just not the cleanest application IMHO. Intake temperature only becomes relavent if its somehow limiting my boost and thats not an issue. I have not read the efficiency of our intercoolers so I don't know what they're doing. I did just read a test on the ZR1 and the intercooler was dropping the inlet temp as much as 108 degrees.

05mustang_TT_charged · January 1st, 2008, 01:58 AM

intake temperature will limit boost from heat of compressed air, if you have 175 degree air entering motor it will pull timing to surpress detonation, so figure the air under the hood being sucked into the supercharger is 120 degrees and the supercharger compresses the air and the temp rises to 175 degrees and goes through the intercooler and air temp drops to 120 again and you are running 20 degrees of timing, then the computer will pull some timing because of the hot air, if you could get 70 degree air into the blower and when compressed it is 125 degrees and after the intercooler it is 80 degrees then the 20 degrees of timing will not be affected.

the more timing, air, and fuel you can get into the motor the more horsepower, my car only makes 427 rwhp at 16 degrees of timing, yet with 23 degrees it makes 466 rwhp, that was proven on back to back runs on the dyno with the same tune except we put 7 degrees of timing into the car and and picked up 39 rwhp from 7 degrees of timing

05mustang_TT_charged · January 1st, 2008, 02:00 AM

i didn't realize you had to chop into the wiring harness for the whipple too, i thought that was something that wasn't well thought out at kb

2006greyGT · January 1st, 2008, 10:18 AM

I compared the KB,Whipple and Procharger (they build them here in KC) and ended going with my Mechanic's advise. He didn't go into why but he has been doing this for a while and I trusted him. It has been great so far.He told me about the wiring situation, but if its done professionally who cares. I have had zero problems.

catchtheroadrunner · January 1st, 2008, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by VaporS197

I have a stock GT. Can you bolt the 500 kit right on to a stock motor? I've heard contradicting things...

To be honest, I would rather do that!

A Steeda mechanic stated in a magazine article that Steeda didn't recommend pulling more than 430rwhp from the stock internals.

December 31st, 2007, 02:53 PM	#1
hbjarosek Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 67 iTrader: 0 reviews	Whipple or kenne bell i am going to get a supercharger but i am not sure witch one to go with. after researching i narrowed it down to the whipple or kenne bell. what is your apinon about these

December 31st, 2007, 03:10 PM	#2
usafimj I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 Ford Mustang GT 12.847 @ 114.12mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok. Posts: 5,084 iTrader: 1 reviews	I would go with the Whipple HO kit. It comes with everything you need. Only thing you may need are different spark plugs. Contact Gunny or Grabber523 on that issue. Pretty sure theres others on here with whipples. Also gauges to keep a check on everything. Good luck __________________ 07 GT-- Gone But Not Forgotten Military Crew E-5

December 31st, 2007, 03:18 PM	#3
06VistaGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,874 iTrader: 0 reviews	+1 on the Whipple. The kit comes with absolutely everything you need. The KB is badass but would require more work and money to get running right. I am probably gonna strap on Whipple once i get back home. __________________ Dyno vid: http://youtu.be/TkxUrW-mpBw

December 31st, 2007, 04:54 PM	#4
VaporS197 Enthusiast 2008 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 642 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm ordering the Whipple in a week. I was hoping to go with the 500hp kit, but I don't have the extra $1500 ( that's for installation ) I think they are both very comparable, but I like the looks of the Whipple, honestly, over the KB. Seems easier to upgrade to the 500 kit, too. __________________ SMR #0513

December 31st, 2007, 05:07 PM	#6
06VistaGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,874 iTrader: 0 reviews	If the KB came with a more complete kit like the Whipple i would probably get it. I've always heard good things about KB. +1 usafimj on getting the HO kit. Get it all done right from the start. __________________ Dyno vid: http://youtu.be/TkxUrW-mpBw

December 31st, 2007, 05:09 PM	#7
VaporS197 Enthusiast 2008 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 642 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have a stock GT. Can you bolt the 500 kit right on to a stock motor? I've heard contradicting things... To be honest, I would rather do that! __________________ SMR #0513

December 31st, 2007, 05:10 PM	#8
adam0421 Regular 06 GT 35.9@15.5MPH in reverse Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 301 iTrader: 0 reviews	between KB and Whipple, which one has a more pronounced whine to it? __________________ In order to live, you must be willing to die. 06 Torch Red GT: pypes axleback, Kooks LT's, o/r H pipe. JLT bama 91 Race Tune, 4.10's

December 31st, 2007, 05:44 PM	#10
2006greyGT Premium Member 2006 Satin Silver GT 11.08@125.22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KC Posts: 3,073 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't know about a Whipple but my KB 2.6 really doesn't make that much whine,in fact it is more of a whooop. the only time you can hear whine much is at idol. I didn't have to buy anything extra to install this SC. It came complete as well.

December 31st, 2007, 06:02 PM	#11
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,483 iTrader: 2 reviews	I would say the Whipple because it has the same capability as the KB, but the HO kit is more complete because it comes with the GT500 fuel pumps, where the KB has the BAP. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

December 31st, 2007, 06:31 PM	#12
Wado Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 57 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would highly recommend the Whipple its quiet and the kit is very complete. The quality of this kits is OEM level Whipple worked with Ford on this product and it shows. The air cleaner set up on the KB was a real deal breaker for me, you have to cut the core support and hang the air cleaner out in the breeze. I found the Whipple design to be a much more elegant solution.

December 31st, 2007, 10:17 PM	#15
hammeron Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 reviews	i say both whipple and kenne bell are fantastic kits. most anyone , would be happy with either one really. __________________ 2006 Mustang GT Whipple HO FRPP Hot Rod Cams

January 1st, 2008, 01:58 AM	#17
05mustang_TT_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 10.32@137.70 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 2,774 iTrader: 0 reviews	intake temperature will limit boost from heat of compressed air, if you have 175 degree air entering motor it will pull timing to surpress detonation, so figure the air under the hood being sucked into the supercharger is 120 degrees and the supercharger compresses the air and the temp rises to 175 degrees and goes through the intercooler and air temp drops to 120 again and you are running 20 degrees of timing, then the computer will pull some timing because of the hot air, if you could get 70 degree air into the blower and when compressed it is 125 degrees and after the intercooler it is 80 degrees then the 20 degrees of timing will not be affected. the more timing, air, and fuel you can get into the motor the more horsepower, my car only makes 427 rwhp at 16 degrees of timing, yet with 23 degrees it makes 466 rwhp, that was proven on back to back runs on the dyno with the same tune except we put 7 degrees of timing into the car and and picked up 39 rwhp from 7 degrees of timing __________________ 350 rwhp and 310 rwtq at 6000 rpms through stock exhaust system 326 cubic inches of Twin Turbocharged hell will be running soon Tuned by Wes @ TPS

January 1st, 2008, 02:00 AM	#18
05mustang_TT_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 10.32@137.70 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 2,774 iTrader: 0 reviews	i didn't realize you had to chop into the wiring harness for the whipple too, i thought that was something that wasn't well thought out at kb __________________ 350 rwhp and 310 rwtq at 6000 rpms through stock exhaust system 326 cubic inches of Twin Turbocharged hell will be running soon Tuned by Wes @ TPS

January 1st, 2008, 10:18 AM	#19
2006greyGT Premium Member 2006 Satin Silver GT 11.08@125.22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KC Posts: 3,073 iTrader: 0 reviews	I compared the KB,Whipple and Procharger (they build them here in KC) and ended going with my Mechanic's advise. He didn't go into why but he has been doing this for a while and I trusted him. It has been great so far.He told me about the wiring situation, but if its done professionally who cares. I have had zero problems.

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