[psycho bob]

so i've been thinking. i could either forge my bottom end which i would have to pay someone to do. that or i could do the 6 speed which would be about 4 grand and i could do the work myself and would be prepared for the bottom end later. i can do the kenne bell myself also. so all the installation i can do myself and wouldn't be paying someone else to install anything.

[leebunnyz]

i would rather blow a tranny then an engine. so forged would be my way

[qwik48r]

+1 forged...make it a screamer... 302 stroker, frrp cnc'd heads, big cams... redline at 7500... longtubes, x pipe.. and spray the hell out of it... cage it. fi is schweet but i think n/a car's have more soul just my .2c

[psycho bob]

i was thinking forged also, but what happens when my tranny goes and i don't have a car for months because i don't have the 4 grand to replace it. i wouldn't blow the engine with the standard kb kit pushing 450 to the wheels, but when i did save the money to do the engine the rest of the drive train would already be there waiting for the power.

[stanglifemike]

I think if the tranny will hold with the supercharger, then why wouldnt it hold up to the forged internals

[psycho bob]

when you up the boost and start pushing it at the track to around 700 or so at the wheels with some stickies. i would think the stocker would start to be questionable. if i'm wrong i'd like to know.

[IronStomach]

Tremec officially rates the stocker (tr3650) at 360 lbs ft torque. Of course it does unofficially handle more, quite a few successful people there, but I think you're planning correctly if the potential for a surprise upgrade is too much long term risk versus the short term forged internal reward.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by stanglifemike I think if the tranny will hold with the supercharger, then why wouldnt it hold up to the forged internals

Originally Posted by qwik48r +1 forged...make it a screamer... 302 stroker, frrp cnc'd heads, big cams... redline at 7500... longtubes, x pipe.. and spray the hell out of it... cage it. fi is schweet but i think n/a car's have more soul just my .2c

I dig this guy.

[IronStomach]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

I totally agree on the N/A route, but it doesn't put out 700+ rwhp ( I don't track and that kind of power would be an absolute waste on me).

And I think Psycho Bob is talking about forged internals WITH the S/C in order to up the boost, not in place of the S/C at stock internal boost levels....

[Grabber523]

Originally Posted by EfylSetaf Tremec officially rates the stocker (tr3650) at 360 lbs ft torque. Of course it does unofficially handle more, quite a few successful people there, but I think you're planning correctly if the potential for a surprise upgrade is too much long term risk versus the short term forged internal reward.

You can usually figure about 150% manufacturer's rating for the breaking point of most components. So around 540 lb/ft you need to be real careful.

[usafimj]

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[psycho bob]

why yes, the only reason i am wanting the internals is so i can up the boost when i put the kb on. i can do the kb and the trans for around 11 grand, or i could do the kb and the internals for a couple grand more as i would be paying someone to install it all.

[acmillr]

Originally Posted by qwik48r +1 forged...make it a screamer... 302 stroker, frrp cnc'd heads, big cams... redline at 7500... longtubes, x pipe.. and spray the hell out of it... cage it. fi is schweet but i think n/a car's have more soul just my .2c

Yeah, take a long rod modular to 7500 on a daily basis and let us know how that turns out...... If you want the cubes and the revs, use a 3.7" bore and just keep the stock stroke.

[usafimj]

internals and tranny

[psycho bob]

the decision is only between the tranny or the internals. i will be getting a sc'er.

[06RedfireGT]

I would do the blower and trans first. That way you still have tons of power and the trans can handle the built motor later on. And you will save a ton of money installing yourself.

[06RedfireGT]

I would do internals before tranny because you could always run a 150 shot to hold you over till the blower.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by acmillr Yeah, take a long rod modular to 7500 on a daily basis and let us know how that turns out...... If you want the cubes and the revs, use a 3.7" bore and just keep the stock stroke.

Didnt say he was right, i still dig him . besides i think you lose the "soul" aspect of n/a once you talk about spraying. spray is just the poors mans s/c anyway.

[stanglifemike]

Oh ok, so your doing
SC and forged or
SC and tranny

I didnt understand that from your poll options

[qwik48r]

Originally Posted by acmillr Yeah, take a long rod modular to 7500 on a daily basis and let us know how that turns out...... If you want the cubes and the revs, use a 3.7" bore and just keep the stock stroke.

5.0 Mustang & Super Ford April 2008.
Page 50. "Tripping the Light: Camtastic"

car built by Big 3 Performance. Made 631 whp huffing 18#'s... on 93 pump gas. Eagle Forged Crank/Rods. 8.7:1 made with stock heads and Arias pistons.

"...Big 3's sales manager, Anthony Stephenson, tells us that this beserk off-idle response, as well as the fact the the 5.0-liter missle will zing happily and repeatedly to 7500rpm..."

Car is fully DD friendly.

these engines are underrated... i certainly hope ford can make a small block capable of beating chevy's small block... and i know from expirience, sbc's especially LSx variants can REV.