JBA Headers vs BBK headers

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:06 AM

AH HA then the BBK's are looking better haha

Jucostud · March 18th, 2008, 12:06 AM

mac isn't actually a long tube header

They are more of a mid-length header.

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:07 AM

Either way, ceramic coated will last longer, look better longer, and be more efficient.

07stanggt · March 18th, 2008, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Grabber523

Ceramic keeps the velocity of the expelled gasses up by keeping the heat energy in the header pipes, helping the exhaust scavenging effect, drawing the fresh air and fuel into the cylinders during valve overlap at high rpms, increasing peak hp.

Yea, what he said.

stanglifemike · March 18th, 2008, 12:08 AM

You decide to pass on the PaceSetters, 06GT??

07stanggt · March 18th, 2008, 12:09 AM

hey grabber what do you think of mac headers?

07stanggt · March 18th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Jucostud

mac isn't actually a long tube header They are more of a mid-length header.

good that means they wont drag on every fucking pebble you drive over.

Jucostud · March 18th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Grabber523

Ceramic keeps the velocity of the expelled gasses up by keeping the heat energy in the header pipes, helping the exhaust scavenging effect, drawing the fresh air and fuel into the cylinders during valve overlap at high rpms, increasing peak hp.

this sounds good, but if the best(kooks) makes there headers ss, than i think i would want to go with that. I'm sure they know what they are doing. Thats why i want jba's. They sound good, they are fairly priced, and they are stainless steel.

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by stanglifemike

You decide to pass on the PaceSetters, 06GT??

Got the email from Stage 3 and they said JBA's and BBK's are 10 times better on fitment and quality

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

hey grabber what do you think of mac headers?

I'll be ordering them soon. Just wish I could get them with a catted prochamber...never know where I'll be stationed next...gotta keep it somewhat legal...

Jucostud · March 18th, 2008, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

good that means they wont drag on every fucking pebble you drive over.

wouldn't being shorter make them have less power?

07stanggt · March 18th, 2008, 12:13 AM

why cant you?

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Jucostud

wouldn't being shorter make them have less power?

agreed haha

07stanggt · March 18th, 2008, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Jucostud

wouldn't being shorter make them have less power?

kooks arent really a long tube, they are in between. found that out when i bought them

Jucostud · March 18th, 2008, 12:15 AM

can't you buy cats seperatly and weld them into your pipes?

07stanggt · March 18th, 2008, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Jucostud

wouldn't being shorter make them have less power?

and it could i dont know.

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Jucostud

this sounds good, but if the best(kooks) makes there headers ss, than i think i would want to go with that. I'm sure they know what they are doing. Thats why i want jba's. They sound good, they are fairly priced, and they are stainless steel.

To each their own, I've built a couple turbo imports, same principal...I know how much thermal energy can hurt or help power. I'm going ceramic...it's free h.p. Heat=velocity. Velocity increases how much air your engine can pump at high rpm when the air can only get through the engine up to a certain speed, then your power starts to fall off. Increasing the velocity of the air leaving the cylinders increases the engine's ability to draw more air in, faster. Pump more air+burn more fuel=make more power. It's the same effect as running a mildly higher duration cam, without he cost associated with pulling your heads apart. People say Kook's fit and finish is top notch, if that's what you want, go for it. Stainless will outlast your car. I haven't heard anything bad about Macs, and I like the mid-length design.

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:22 AM

Stainless Steel headers will outlast your car because they don't rust..period..but allow more heat then ceramic...decisions decisions i do like the JBA's though and the BBK's are good too and they are ceramic

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jucostud

wouldn't being shorter make them have less power?

Not necissarily. Headers use exhaust pulses from other cylinders to assist in the scavening effect, along with keeping the exhaust stream velocity higher. Length is only a minor factor...equal lengh tubes and firing order through the header tubes makes more of a difference than length, but you will see slihtly higher gains with a mid/long tube setup or equal-length over shorties. A stock cast manifold allows the exhaust from the forward cylinders to swirl through all the other exhaust ports on the way to the midpipe. It's the same principle as a smooth-tube CAI...eliminate bends and vortexes in the pipe, and your air moves faster...you're not losing velocity to swirling turbulence, so your engine moves the air more efficiently, which leads to higher volumetric efficiency at high rpms. More power!!

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

why cant you?

Haven't heard back from Mac yet if they'll fit with the mid-lengths...waitin on an e-mail...who knows when I'll hear back from them...

March 18th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#21
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March 18th, 2008, 12:22 AM	#38
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	Stainless Steel headers will outlast your car because they don't rust..period..but allow more heat then ceramic...decisions decisions i do like the JBA's though and the BBK's are good too and they are ceramic __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

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