JBA Headers vs BBK headers

07stanggt · March 18th, 2008, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Grabber523

Not necissarily. Headers use exhaust pulses from other cylinders to assist in the scavening effect, along with keeping the exhaust stream velocity higher. Length is only a minor factor...equal lengh tubes and firing order through the header tubes makes more of a difference than length, but you will see slihtly higher gains with a mid/long tube setup or equal-length over shorties. A stock cast manifold allows the exhaust from the forward cylinders to swirl through all the other exhaust ports on the way to the midpipe. It's the same principle as a smooth-tube CAI...eliminate bends and vortexes in the pipe, and your air moves faster...you're not losing velocity to swirling turbulence, so your engine moves the air more efficiently, which leads to higher volumetric efficiency at high rpms. More power!!

LOL thats what im talking about. Any questions?

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:33 AM

so grabber what do you think about the BBK's??

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by 06GTMustang89

Stainless Steel headers will outlast your car because they don't rust..period..but allow more heat then ceramic...decisions decisions i do like the JBA's though and the BBK's are good too and they are ceramic

Sounds like it's time to flip a coin!!

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:34 AM

I just don't know which will flow better the JBA's or the BBK's i want performance man haha

07stanggt · March 18th, 2008, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by 06GTMustang89

I just don't know which will flow better the JBA's or the BBK's i want performance man haha

its not gonna matter dude. it really isnt.

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by 06GTMustang89

so grabber what do you think about the BBK's??

Man I gotta be honest, once I saw the price and features of the Mac setup, and heard the prochamber midpipe, I was in love...looking at prices from other manufacturers (especailly to ceramic coat them as an extra expense) kept pushing me back towards the Macs...got a baby on the way so I'm a huge bang-for-the-buck buyer, and they seem to be the most well-rounded for power, quality, and price...For me. You gotta get what you want!

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

LOL thats what im talking about. Any questions?

Haha it's fun to geek out about engine physics every now and then. Lots of folks can tell you what makes power, few can tell you why. Glad you enjoyed that...

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:43 AM

i think im goin BBK's then the ceramic coat and x pipe for only 700 bucks sounds good to me...though i have flowmaster axle backs i hope that isn't goin to be TOOO raspy with the x pipe

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:45 AM

ATTA BOY!!! Now, go buy them before you change your mind again!!

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:48 AM

seriously im waiting on some money from a guy whose buyin my truck so end of the week ill be buying BBK LT headers w/ off road x pipe, steeda lower and upper control arms, and 2 17x10.5 rims w/ 315/35 nitto DR's for the track....

06RedfireGT · March 18th, 2008, 12:50 AM

Hate to break it to you but I think the Flows sound like shit alone, but even worse with an x-pipe. Check out my exhaust sticky for proof.

And if it were me, I would run JBAs. I like the fact that they are stainless. Also, what is the ceramic coating going to do power wise? 1-2hp tops?

06RedfireGT · March 18th, 2008, 12:51 AM

Why Nittos when you could run some mickey thompsons or M&H tires?

Grabber523 · March 18th, 2008, 12:52 AM

Depends on what else you're running for mods...

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 12:55 AM

damnit now im debating again hahaha thanks 06red haha

JStang14 · March 18th, 2008, 12:56 AM

the JBAs are only 409 stainless steel, and will rust. mainly just surface rust but still rust. i'd go bbks

06RedfireGT · March 18th, 2008, 01:00 AM

If you're debating about tires, stop now. If they are strictly for track duty, go with the stickier tire.

M&H Racemaster Drag Radial 325/45/17 [MH-325-45R-17] - $229.00

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 01:05 AM

are my stock axles goin to be able to handle 3000 RPM launch with 12.8" wide DR's?? And will those bad boys fit in my wheel well??

06RedfireGT · March 18th, 2008, 01:10 AM

Yes, and yes. They are 28.5 inches tall, they will fir fine, and your car has 31 spline axles. People are launching from 5k on MT ET drags which are a true slick with no problems. And with these tire you could dump the clutch at 5k and hook like crazy.

06GTMustang89 · March 18th, 2008, 01:13 AM

thats gonna be some fun/scary shit when i first hook with these bad boys good call 06 im gonna go with the M&H's

06RedfireGT · March 18th, 2008, 01:16 AM

If you wanted a sticky tire for street duty I would say the Nittos but if they are only for the tracl than MT or M&H are the way to go.

March 18th, 2008, 12:33 AM	#42
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	so grabber what do you think about the BBK's?? __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

March 18th, 2008, 12:34 AM	#44
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	I just don't know which will flow better the JBA's or the BBK's i want performance man haha __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

March 18th, 2008, 12:43 AM	#48
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think im goin BBK's then the ceramic coat and x pipe for only 700 bucks sounds good to me...though i have flowmaster axle backs i hope that isn't goin to be TOOO raspy with the x pipe __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

March 18th, 2008, 12:45 AM	#49
Grabber523 Your Mom's Favorite 2007 Mustang GT Eats Chevys, Shits Imports... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scott AFB, Illinois Posts: 2,487 iTrader: 0 reviews	ATTA BOY!!! Now, go buy them before you change your mind again!! __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...p-vote-me.html TEAM RICER GT CREW MEMBER (11 SECOND RIDE WITH A 12 SECOND DRIVER) MEMBERS AGAINST MEMBERS AGAINST STUFF CREW FOUNDER TRUNK MONKEY CREW FOUNDER

March 18th, 2008, 12:48 AM	#50
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	seriously im waiting on some money from a guy whose buyin my truck so end of the week ill be buying BBK LT headers w/ off road x pipe, steeda lower and upper control arms, and 2 17x10.5 rims w/ 315/35 nitto DR's for the track.... __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

March 18th, 2008, 12:50 AM	#51
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,216 iTrader: 2 reviews	Hate to break it to you but I think the Flows sound like shit alone, but even worse with an x-pipe. Check out my exhaust sticky for proof. And if it were me, I would run JBAs. I like the fact that they are stainless. Also, what is the ceramic coating going to do power wise? 1-2hp tops? __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

March 18th, 2008, 12:51 AM	#52
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,216 iTrader: 2 reviews	Why Nittos when you could run some mickey thompsons or M&H tires? __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

March 18th, 2008, 12:52 AM	#53
Grabber523 Your Mom's Favorite 2007 Mustang GT Eats Chevys, Shits Imports... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scott AFB, Illinois Posts: 2,487 iTrader: 0 reviews	Depends on what else you're running for mods... __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...p-vote-me.html TEAM RICER GT CREW MEMBER (11 SECOND RIDE WITH A 12 SECOND DRIVER) MEMBERS AGAINST MEMBERS AGAINST STUFF CREW FOUNDER TRUNK MONKEY CREW FOUNDER

March 18th, 2008, 12:55 AM	#54
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	damnit now im debating again hahaha thanks 06red haha __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

March 18th, 2008, 12:56 AM	#55
JStang14 Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 590 iTrader: 0 reviews	the JBAs are only 409 stainless steel, and will rust. mainly just surface rust but still rust. i'd go bbks

March 18th, 2008, 01:00 AM	#56
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,216 iTrader: 2 reviews	If you're debating about tires, stop now. If they are strictly for track duty, go with the stickier tire. M&H Racemaster Drag Radial 325/45/17 [MH-325-45R-17] - $229.00 __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

March 18th, 2008, 01:05 AM	#57
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	are my stock axles goin to be able to handle 3000 RPM launch with 12.8" wide DR's?? And will those bad boys fit in my wheel well?? __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more. Last edited by 06GTMustang89; March 18th, 2008 at 01:07 AM.

March 18th, 2008, 01:10 AM	#58
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,216 iTrader: 2 reviews	Yes, and yes. They are 28.5 inches tall, they will fir fine, and your car has 31 spline axles. People are launching from 5k on MT ET drags which are a true slick with no problems. And with these tire you could dump the clutch at 5k and hook like crazy. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

March 18th, 2008, 01:13 AM	#59
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats gonna be some fun/scary shit when i first hook with these bad boys good call 06 im gonna go with the M&H's __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

March 18th, 2008, 01:16 AM	#60
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,216 iTrader: 2 reviews	If you wanted a sticky tire for street duty I would say the Nittos but if they are only for the tracl than MT or M&H are the way to go. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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