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Old October 11th, 2006, 11:22 AM   #1
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In my quest for which supercharger system to go with I am looking for some of you out there that might be able to help. I have seen the standard system with aprox 120HP and then the HO system with the pre-cooler and aprox 160HP. I do not plan on tearing into engine. Just bolt on.
I am looking at the Paxton standard and HO and the Vortech HO. I have heard both sides of the arguement that without beefing up the block, heads etc I will be tearing it up but on the other hand I have heard with a standard system 5-8PSI boost I won't. Looking for some help here ladies and gents.

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The Paxtons are the Novi 1200 standard 120HP/Novi 2200 HO 170HP. And the Vortech stand is 120HP and the HO is 160's HP.
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I would go witht eh Novi 2200...With a good tune then your car will be fine...there are alot of people running superchargers around here...If you stay below 400rwhp I think you will be fine...

L33T is running his KB 2.4 on his stock internals...There are a few others that are running blowers on the stock motor as well...

I think you would be fine...

You are close to Tim @ Modular Powerhouse
He is located in GA and would be able to to tune your car very nicely...

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Old October 11th, 2006, 11:36 AM   #3
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Great thanks man and be safe.
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Most definately...

I am hoping some mroe of the people will chime in and give you their thoughts...

You stay safe too...
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Any recommendations for the Roush or Saleen, those seem to have a lower boost= less wear on the stock eng?
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its all in the tune!
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I would go for a novi and just get a good tune...There are alot of people running them on stock motors...As long as your tuner keeps the timing low then you will be fine...
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i local buy is running the procharger kit and tha car is nuts!
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Originally Posted by acehogg69
Any recommendations for the Roush or Saleen, those seem to have a lower boost= less wear on the stock eng?
I would put a twinscrew supercharger in a street driven car. You will see much more torque at a lower rpm with a twinscrew. If you like that feeling of hitting the gas at any rpm and having power then go with a twinscrew! The Saleens are great blowers and can be very fast. the stock kit will only make you around 400rwhp however. If you get the new whipple (Great Blower) you will be around 450rwhp or so with a stock kit. The Kenne Bell is a great blower and will put great power down as well.

My point is most blowers on the market will make huge power but how the power is delivered and what you like are two different things. A twinscrew will see fuul boost at 2,000 rpm, a centrifical (Novi or Vortech etc) will add boost with rpm and is why you have less power at lower rpms with centrificals. The reason why centrificals are so popular is because they are a great racing blower, they can make huge power. The thing is the 2.6 KB just put down 704rwhp/ 724rwtq on a stock head, stock cam full exhaust S197 Mustang. So you can make big power with twin screws! People will come around and everyone will be running twinscrews, you watch.
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Originally Posted by acehogg69
Any recommendations for the Roush or Saleen, those seem to have a lower boost= less wear on the stock eng?
I can tell you that I am completely satisfied with my Roush S/C. Plently of HP, not enough traction. The boost is about 5or 6psi, hp gain = 115hp and torque gain =65
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I am really pleased with my Roushcharger too. Have driven the 05 Saleensupercharger for a couple hundred miles and have to say the Roush is more explosive but the saleen is no slouch either.
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Another for vote for a twin screw.
The "instant on" is a real kick in the ass!

My low torque cup spilleth over!
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I went with a Procharger HO, 10 lbs boost and intercooler. Had the whole exhaust system changed and some other minor stuff. I wanted to keep the car's basic daily driving characteristics (it's my daily driver) unchanged and the Procharger's boost comes in late compared to some other types.

Whatever you do, invest in a dyno-tune as well ...for safety and best results. My dyno-tune guy gave me 3 progammable tunes that I can plug in at will (safe 450 rwhp, aggressive 480 rwhp, race???)
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Originally Posted by forensicsteve
I went with a Procharger HO, 10 lbs boost and intercooler. Had the whole exhaust system changed and some other minor stuff. I wanted to keep the car's basic daily driving characteristics (it's my daily driver) unchanged and the Procharger's boost comes in late compared to some other types.

Whatever you do, invest in a dyno-tune as well ...for safety and best results. My dyno-tune guy gave me 3 progammable tunes that I can plug in at will (safe 450 rwhp, aggressive 480 rwhp, race???)
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I was the first in my area (Concord, NC) to add a supercharger(spring 05)...Vortech S-trim with 10 lbs of boost. RWHP 496. It ended up running too lean and I broke a rod and it exited the block. Came back with a built bottom end (DSS), changed pulleys (14 lbs boost), 525 RWHP. Also upgraded the fuel sustem. Drove ok at the track (7.7 @ 92 in 1/8 mile), but didn't like it around the street. Wasn't enough response at low rpm's. Sold the supercharger and now in the process of installing twin turbos from www.turbohorsepower.com. Goodbye money.
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Originally Posted by ccciii
I was the first in my area (Concord, NC) to add a supercharger(spring 05)...Vortech S-trim with 10 lbs of boost. RWHP 496. It ended up running too lean and I broke a rod and it exited the block. Came back with a built bottom end (DSS), changed pulleys (14 lbs boost), 525 RWHP. Also upgraded the fuel sustem. Drove ok at the track (7.7 @ 92 in 1/8 mile), but didn't like it around the street. Wasn't enough response at low rpm's. Sold the supercharger and now in the process of installing twin turbos from www.turbohorsepower.com. Goodbye money.
If you wanted more low end power why did you go with turbos?
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I was the first in my area (Concord, NC) to add a supercharger(spring 05)...Vortech S-trim with 10 lbs of boost. RWHP 496. It ended up running too lean and I broke a rod and it exited the block. Came back with a built bottom end (DSS), changed pulleys (14 lbs boost), 525 RWHP. Also upgraded the fuel sustem. Drove ok at the track (7.7 @ 92 in 1/8 mile), but didn't like it around the street. Wasn't enough response at low rpm's. Sold the supercharger and now in the process of installing twin turbos from www.turbohorsepower.com. Goodbye money.
If you wanted more low end power why did you go with turbos?
I rode in an 03 cobra with twin turbos and the low end power was impressive (top end was awesome). The twins spool up much faster than a single turbo...no noticeable lag
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Originally Posted by ccciii
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I was the first in my area (Concord, NC) to add a supercharger(spring 05)...Vortech S-trim with 10 lbs of boost. RWHP 496. It ended up running too lean and I broke a rod and it exited the block. Came back with a built bottom end (DSS), changed pulleys (14 lbs boost), 525 RWHP. Also upgraded the fuel sustem. Drove ok at the track (7.7 @ 92 in 1/8 mile), but didn't like it around the street. Wasn't enough response at low rpm's. Sold the supercharger and now in the process of installing twin turbos from www.turbohorsepower.com. Goodbye money.
If you wanted more low end power why did you go with turbos?
I rode in an 03 cobra with twin turbos and the low end power was impressive (top end was awesome). The twins spool up much faster than a single turbo...no noticeable lag
If I was not going with the Kenne Bell I was looking at the single HP turbo kit. I think I'll like the low end of the twin screw but I love turbos too...can;t make up my mind
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Saving my dimes to get the Kenne Bell. Getting TWIN SCREWED is definetely for me!! They take the guess work and provide you a flasher (preset tune, no mailing your box off for flashing or reflashing to stock) all you have to do is install (or they will tell you the nearest installer they recommend and gaurantee).

Thought about the NOS a lot...looking for more (and more reliable) power than the typical 100HP shot, but if 100-125HP is where you want to stop, don't waste your money (unless its for the asthetics as well) on the SC, use the juice.
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