Just talk to C&L. Interesting info.

07stanggt · April 14th, 2008, 01:18 PM

Some of us were talking about the adaptive system on the 08 bullit and how it adjust for octane levels. I called C&L today to make my buy in and was talking the him about different facts. Anyway I ask him about this system He said that basically all mustangs have had this ability since 2005. Long explanation of the small difference but basically its just that the bullit comes with the timeing advanced 4 degrees, if it senses lower octane on detonation it will retard the timeing accordingly, basically something the car was already capable of with the knock sensor and all. The bullit does had an ability too monitor trends in a/f to an extent the gt does not though. Another peice of info in the CAI on the bullit it flows 835cfm, stock is around 500 and change i think, and as you all know the steeda, jlt, c&l are all around 1000 cfm. A lot of the no tune CAI's are flowing 800 something.

Another little bit of information that I was unaware of, C&L sells a CAI/Predator package. The particular Diablo that comes in this package is not available through Diablo. It is basically a C&L exclusive. ALL required custom tunes for their street and racer intake are on this diablo as well as tuner support from C&L. Using an xcal only, i dont know if this is true with all diablos or not but you can track A/F right on the screen of the diable and do not have to use you laptop like with the XCAL. When you plug it into your car it will read all necessary information and know whether you car is an automatic or not, it also has 2 additional tunes for automatics. It also has the normal ability for you to change your gear ratio, tire size, a/f and timeing.

TheUNZippee! · April 14th, 2008, 01:20 PM

Yeah I had read that somewhere before, 07sgt, but I could never find the magazine I read it in or find accurate info online, so I never bothered posting aboot it here, since I'm not fond of posting something up unless I'm 100% positive about something that important.

Nice find man.

06VistaGT · April 14th, 2008, 01:24 PM

Interesting info.

07stanggt · April 14th, 2008, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee!

Yeah I had read that somewhere before, 07sgt, but I could never find the magazine I read it in or find accurate info online, so I never bothered posting aboot it here, since I'm not fond of posting something up unless I'm 100% positive about something that important.

Nice find man.

Yea its good enough. I'm glad to know about that package im gonna start selling that. Dont you have the diablo zip? Can all diable show a/f right on the screen like that, its so much easier then using the laptop. Almost like a livewire i guess.

qwik48r · April 14th, 2008, 01:35 PM

just different octane tables thats all adaptive control is.

qwik48r · April 14th, 2008, 01:38 PM

so whens the intake manifold coming out?

TheUNZippee! · April 14th, 2008, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

Yea its good enough. I'm glad to know about that package im gonna start selling that. Dont you have the diablo zip? Can all diable show a/f right on the screen like that, its so much easier then using the laptop. Almost like a livewire i guess.

Yes, I do have the Diablo, stanger, but I have not tried playing with anything besides installing the tune, other than bumping the timing up a few notches on my race tune,raising the rev limiter in the first 3 gears, and disabling the top speed governor. So I can't be of much help on that.

07stanggt · April 14th, 2008, 01:40 PM

What intake manifold brohter.

07stanggt · April 14th, 2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee!

Yes, I do have the Diablo, stanger, but I have not tried playing with anything besides installing the tune, other than bumping the timing up a few notches on my race tune,raising the rev limiter in the first 3 gears, and disabling the top speed governor. So I can't be of much help on that.

I know you have not been to happy with diablo. Is that just a service issue or the unit itself? Cause c&l provides all tuner service on their tuner.

qwik48r · April 14th, 2008, 01:41 PM

2005+ C&L TrueFlow 3-VALVE MUSTANG INTAKE MANIFOLD
this one

07stanggt · April 14th, 2008, 01:45 PM

when i call back to make my order ill ask them for ya. Its not on my price sheet so i guess its not out yet. I see one for the 2 vavle and lightning but thats it.

qwik48r · April 14th, 2008, 01:47 PM

its in final tooling, not even available yet... they wont answer me straight. you'll buy one when they come 07 trust me

07stanggt · April 14th, 2008, 01:51 PM

Oh you know it man. Im on a mission to scrape every horse outta this 281, normally aspirated and keep it a decent street car. new intake, street intake, gt500 tb. its all me.

07stanggt · April 14th, 2008, 01:51 PM

it must be a problem cuase no one has an intake out yet. its been 4 years now.

07 STROKER · April 14th, 2008, 01:52 PM

Ive logged my A/F with my predator

HMUSN · April 14th, 2008, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by 07 procharger

Ive logged my A/F with my predator using a narrow band 02 sensor so I know it's not accurate as it should be

fix t

TheUNZippee! · April 14th, 2008, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

I know you have not been to happy with diablo. Is that just a service issue or the unit itself? Cause c&l provides all tuner service on their tuner.

I think that's Ken, 07Pro you're thinking of. Touch wood, so far my Pred has been working fine. I bought mine from Doug at Bama last summer.

qwik48r · April 14th, 2008, 01:54 PM

haha you'd think! coulda been because we have those funky valves in our intakes.. dunno. but its long overdue. the intake manifold IS A RESTRICTION!!
andything worth having, is worth waiting for.

07 STROKER · April 14th, 2008, 01:56 PM

ya thats me....but let me tell you guys somthing....me level of experience with these things is growing FAST. You can see your A/F on the screen ...its just in a different formula like sg/ somthing.....dunno what it means.

qwik48r · April 14th, 2008, 01:56 PM

so yall like yalls predators

April 14th, 2008, 01:18 PM	#1
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	Just talk to C&L. Interesting info. Some of us were talking about the adaptive system on the 08 bullit and how it adjust for octane levels. I called C&L today to make my buy in and was talking the him about different facts. Anyway I ask him about this system He said that basically all mustangs have had this ability since 2005. Long explanation of the small difference but basically its just that the bullit comes with the timeing advanced 4 degrees, if it senses lower octane on detonation it will retard the timeing accordingly, basically something the car was already capable of with the knock sensor and all. The bullit does had an ability too monitor trends in a/f to an extent the gt does not though. Another peice of info in the CAI on the bullit it flows 835cfm, stock is around 500 and change i think, and as you all know the steeda, jlt, c&l are all around 1000 cfm. A lot of the no tune CAI's are flowing 800 something. Another little bit of information that I was unaware of, C&L sells a CAI/Predator package. The particular Diablo that comes in this package is not available through Diablo. It is basically a C&L exclusive. ALL required custom tunes for their street and racer intake are on this diablo as well as tuner support from C&L. Using an xcal only, i dont know if this is true with all diablos or not but you can track A/F right on the screen of the diable and do not have to use you laptop like with the XCAL. When you plug it into your car it will read all necessary information and know whether you car is an automatic or not, it also has 2 additional tunes for automatics. It also has the normal ability for you to change your gear ratio, tire size, a/f and timeing.

April 14th, 2008, 01:24 PM	#3
06VistaGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,874 iTrader: 0 reviews	Interesting info. __________________ Dyno vid: http://youtu.be/TkxUrW-mpBw

April 14th, 2008, 01:35 PM	#5
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	just different octane tables thats all adaptive control is. __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

April 14th, 2008, 01:38 PM	#6
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	so whens the intake manifold coming out? __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

April 14th, 2008, 01:41 PM	#10
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	2005+ C&L TrueFlow 3-VALVE MUSTANG INTAKE MANIFOLD this one __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

April 14th, 2008, 01:40 PM	#8
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	What intake manifold brohter.

April 14th, 2008, 01:45 PM	#11
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	when i call back to make my order ill ask them for ya. Its not on my price sheet so i guess its not out yet. I see one for the 2 vavle and lightning but thats it.

April 14th, 2008, 01:47 PM	#12
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	its in final tooling, not even available yet... they wont answer me straight. you'll buy one when they come 07 trust me __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

April 14th, 2008, 01:51 PM	#13
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	Oh you know it man. Im on a mission to scrape every horse outta this 281, normally aspirated and keep it a decent street car. new intake, street intake, gt500 tb. its all me.

April 14th, 2008, 01:52 PM	#15
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ive logged my A/F with my predator __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

April 14th, 2008, 01:54 PM	#18
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	haha you'd think! coulda been because we have those funky valves in our intakes.. dunno. but its long overdue. the intake manifold IS A RESTRICTION!! andything worth having, is worth waiting for. __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

April 14th, 2008, 01:56 PM	#19
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya thats me....but let me tell you guys somthing....me level of experience with these things is growing FAST. You can see your A/F on the screen ...its just in a different formula like sg/ somthing.....dunno what it means. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

April 14th, 2008, 01:56 PM	#20
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	so yall like yalls predators __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

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