add/remove timing for 104 octane?

Modern_Muscle · April 18th, 2008, 10:26 PM

how much can I advance or remove the timing, if I am running 104 octane (8 gal 93 + 32oz Torco Mach Accelerator)???

qwik48r · April 18th, 2008, 10:38 PM

advanved i'm ballparking... steve would know better than me, 12*?

06RedfireGT · April 18th, 2008, 10:55 PM

Those octane boosters suck. Have a 104 octane tune made and use that when you actually use 104 octane.

qwik48r · April 18th, 2008, 11:12 PM

yea i was gonna say that but i didnt want to being a dick... i feel like a nice guy today friday and all

06GTMustang89 · April 18th, 2008, 11:28 PM

the biggest gimmick in the auto business besides the "tornado" are octane boosters...they do absolutely nothing waste of money IMO sorry bro...the truth sucks sometimes

Bandit · April 18th, 2008, 11:38 PM

I thought torco was one of the few "true" octane boosters?

qwik48r · April 18th, 2008, 11:49 PM

there is no special formula that make regular 93 or what have you into "race gas"... you can retard the octane.. but its not removing the other impurities

Modern_Muscle · April 19th, 2008, 03:40 AM

funny thing, this would be the first time I have heard of anyone calling torco a cheap octane booster.
considering the stuff is over $20 a can (32oz) and $200 (5 gal drum)
and LOTS swear to it race-wise...idk

it makes a diff, 16 oz in a half tank of 93 is 97 octane, and 32oz in 8 gal is 104 oct...supposedly.

also, 100 octane is like $10 a gallon, and torco is $40 a gallon. any questions?

06RedfireGT · April 19th, 2008, 10:54 AM

I say just buy 10 gallons of 100 or 104 octane and just use it at the track.

Bandit · April 19th, 2008, 11:50 AM

I would like to hear the answer as well.How much timing can you add based on octane rating?Is there a formula?

Oddball · April 19th, 2008, 01:45 PM

Seems like I remember reading somewhere that you should advance the timing 1 degree per octane increase. So from 93 to 104 octane, you'd advance 11 degrees. I may be way off base, but I think that's what I remember reading. Have no idea where I read it though.

Emay · April 20th, 2008, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by Modern_Muscle

funny thing, this would be the first time I have heard of anyone calling torco a cheap octane booster.
considering the stuff is over $20 a can (32oz) and $200 (5 gal drum)
and LOTS swear to it race-wise...idk

it makes a diff, 16 oz in a half tank of 93 is 97 octane, and 32oz in 8 gal is 104 oct...supposedly.

also, 100 octane is like $10 a gallon, and torco is $40 a gallon. any questions?

100 here is 5.20 a gallon right now.. 10 bucks is outrageous.

JakeM · April 20th, 2008, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Emay

100 here is 5.20 a gallon right now.. 10 bucks is outrageous.

Its the same here. There is a quite a few shells that still carry it around here. Also, octane boosters are crap.

97Cobra · April 20th, 2008, 05:26 AM

^heh n just think just a year ago I was down in TX slaughtering this dude on the hwy! seen him on myspace and turned him loose on MM!

97Cobra · April 20th, 2008, 05:29 AM

my mod list has much grown since then old pal!

clicky on garage!

Modern_Muscle · April 20th, 2008, 01:40 PM

ill still take you.

I was on a JMS tune that I thoguht was great, but ended upsputtering me...

well run em again if youre ever down here, I may have a few tricks up my sleeve soon

Modern_Muscle · April 20th, 2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Emay

100 here is 5.20 a gallon right now.. 10 bucks is outrageous.

eh, I was just ballparking.

I think 114 is 7 something.

97Cobra · April 21st, 2008, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Modern_Muscle

ill still take you.

I was on a JMS tune that I thoguht was great, but ended upsputtering me...

well run em again if youre ever down here, I may have a few tricks up my sleeve soon

Excuses excuses....

Drive down to Douglas WY may 17! 1st test n tune and me n my step dad are going to run! IM 99.99% positive my dad is going to beat me but then once he gets his 12sumthin they wount let him run intill he gets a roll cage!

April 18th, 2008, 10:26 PM	#1
Modern_Muscle Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	add/remove timing for 104 octane? how much can I advance or remove the timing, if I am running 104 octane (8 gal 93 + 32oz Torco Mach Accelerator)??? __________________ 1998 Trans Am WS6. (Anti Venom) Forged 347, stage 3 T56, and a 76mm Turbo... 659rwhp @ 13.5# ~725rwhp @ 15.5# Meth, C16, and 20psi coming soon 03 Z71 (H/C/I/E/T)...sold 2005 GT, Full Bolt-Ons...12's... GONE

April 18th, 2008, 10:38 PM	#2
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	advanved i'm ballparking... steve would know better than me, 12*? __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

April 18th, 2008, 10:55 PM	#3
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,484 iTrader: 2 reviews	Those octane boosters suck. Have a 104 octane tune made and use that when you actually use 104 octane. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

April 18th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#4
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	yea i was gonna say that but i didnt want to being a dick... i feel like a nice guy today friday and all __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

April 18th, 2008, 11:28 PM	#5
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,178 iTrader: 0 reviews	the biggest gimmick in the auto business besides the "tornado" are octane boosters...they do absolutely nothing waste of money IMO sorry bro...the truth sucks sometimes __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

April 18th, 2008, 11:38 PM	#6
Bandit Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: southern ohio Posts: 99 iTrader: 0 reviews	I thought torco was one of the few "true" octane boosters?

April 18th, 2008, 11:49 PM	#7
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	there is no special formula that make regular 93 or what have you into "race gas"... you can retard the octane.. but its not removing the other impurities __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

April 19th, 2008, 03:40 AM	#8
Modern_Muscle Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	funny thing, this would be the first time I have heard of anyone calling torco a cheap octane booster. considering the stuff is over $20 a can (32oz) and $200 (5 gal drum) and LOTS swear to it race-wise...idk it makes a diff, 16 oz in a half tank of 93 is 97 octane, and 32oz in 8 gal is 104 oct...supposedly. also, 100 octane is like $10 a gallon, and torco is $40 a gallon. any questions? __________________ 1998 Trans Am WS6. (Anti Venom) Forged 347, stage 3 T56, and a 76mm Turbo... 659rwhp @ 13.5# ~725rwhp @ 15.5# Meth, C16, and 20psi coming soon 03 Z71 (H/C/I/E/T)...sold 2005 GT, Full Bolt-Ons...12's... GONE Last edited by Modern_Muscle; April 19th, 2008 at 03:45 AM.

April 19th, 2008, 10:54 AM	#9
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,484 iTrader: 2 reviews	I say just buy 10 gallons of 100 or 104 octane and just use it at the track. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

April 19th, 2008, 11:50 AM	#10
Bandit Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: southern ohio Posts: 99 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would like to hear the answer as well.How much timing can you add based on octane rating?Is there a formula?

April 19th, 2008, 01:45 PM	#11
Oddball Regular 2008 GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Atlanta suburbs Posts: 138 iTrader: 0 reviews	Seems like I remember reading somewhere that you should advance the timing 1 degree per octane increase. So from 93 to 104 octane, you'd advance 11 degrees. I may be way off base, but I think that's what I remember reading. Have no idea where I read it though. __________________ Hurst Short Throw Shifter K&N CAI FRPP 3.73 rearend 279rwhp/293rwtq - pre tune Brenspeed 93 octane tune 283rwhp/306rwtq - post tune ARH longtubes/catted H-pipe - no new numbers yet

April 20th, 2008, 05:26 AM	#14
97Cobra I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1997 Mustang Cobra 1/8 - 8.89@86mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 6,521 iTrader: 1 reviews	^heh n just think just a year ago I was down in TX slaughtering this dude on the hwy! seen him on myspace and turned him loose on MM! __________________ Modifications and pics in my Garage... Reps Appreciated!

April 20th, 2008, 05:29 AM	#15
97Cobra I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1997 Mustang Cobra 1/8 - 8.89@86mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 6,521 iTrader: 1 reviews	my mod list has much grown since then old pal! clicky on garage! __________________ Modifications and pics in my Garage... Reps Appreciated!

April 20th, 2008, 01:40 PM	#16
Modern_Muscle Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	ill still take you. I was on a JMS tune that I thoguht was great, but ended upsputtering me... well run em again if youre ever down here, I may have a few tricks up my sleeve soon __________________ 1998 Trans Am WS6. (Anti Venom) Forged 347, stage 3 T56, and a 76mm Turbo... 659rwhp @ 13.5# ~725rwhp @ 15.5# Meth, C16, and 20psi coming soon 03 Z71 (H/C/I/E/T)...sold 2005 GT, Full Bolt-Ons...12's... GONE

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