[BadGT06]

Anyone know if this is a good deal?

05-08 X-PIPE, 4.6L 3V, CUT & CLAMP DESIGN MUSTANG

A little cutting, some clamps, 125 bucks and your factory H is now an Xpipe? Sounds like a good deal but does it still provide the power gains?

[07stanggt]

i ran that x pipe before i had my current setup. I liked it. frpp's website use to say 5hp gains. they changed it just "performance gains." I coule feel the difference in the car with it.


I have mine if you want to buy it used. Ill sell it to you for $75 to your door. was on my car for about 4 months.

[MaverickMLFD371]

i doubt it gives you the power gains. most people get the gains when they run the off-road pipes (H or X), the only thing thats missing from the offroad pipes is the cats. the cats are the biggest obstruction in the exhaust system. you remove the cats, you gain power. all your doing by cutting the X is simple changing the sound with stock cats.

[07stanggt]

so are you saying im lying? since you dont speak from experience how do you know?

[psycho bob]

i also felt a small difference when adding the xpipe. it also tamed the dreaded drone of the slp's. it made it louder out back while quieter inside the car with a slight rasp. i would do it again in a second.

[MaverickMLFD371]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt so are you saying im lying? since you dont speak from experience how do you know?

here we go agin with these boards.

where on my post did it say that I called you a liar? experience, yes I do have experience. so how can you say that I dont speak from experience? its not everyday that i get a call from other mustang guys on other forums that I've become friends with and they ask me to come over to their house to assist with install of parts (cold air intakes, exhaust components, suspension parts, etc.). or even spend a saturday or a sunday at a vendors shop for several hours who specializes in mustangs and sells the parts for the s-197, does custom dyno tuning and installation. I've done the x-pipe install from ford racing. its a very easy installation. all you need is the instructions where to make your mark for the cut, tape measure, an exhaust pipe cutter wrench and sockets, simple! now granted I've seen x-pipes make more power over H pipes. my comment was I doubt you will see MUCH of a gain. you still have stock cats which are the big obstruction in the exhaust system. the true gain of a mid-pipe is going with an off-road pipe that doesn't have any cats. everyone of the S197 community knows the exhaust dilemma and which parts of the ehaust system make the power. the mid pipe and the headers. for the price you pay for the ford racing X, is the same price for an off-road pipe.

its bad enough that I spend ALL of my free time, going on a vast majority of mustang forums to assist others with the help they ask or answer any questions they may have, based upon the knowledge and experience I have with the new mustangs and working on them. but I also spend my free time studying and learning new aspects of the S197 mustang that I don't know about. As of right now, I'm learning the aspect of custom tuning the mustangs by going to a vendors shop for a few hours while he has another S197 on the dyno using SCT software. what to tweak, what to read, what this is, what that is, etc, pull timing, add fuel, etc but I'm still learning! but when I value my time to everyone else in the mustang community, its never good enough. I get looked at like I have 2 heads or I dont know what I'm talking about or get called out. I do this because I enjoy helping everyone and I love working on mustangs. but gathering this comment and the rest of the other comments that have been posted to me on other threads in the past, it really tells me how you guys really feel about me.

so from this moment on I will no longer give any help what so ever to anyone about anything, just to make the MM world much more happier without me.

[07stanggt]

your long winded. Calm down. dont take your toys and go home. I dont care how many you have installed. i told the guy i had the setup and felt a difference in the car. it makes a difference period. You said he wont see any. he will feel a difference. drive one before and after and get back to me.

listen o/r setups are illegal and are a pain in the ass for any of us who have to do emissions. compile that with the fact that the gains are not that much either. maybe 10 if your lucky. it isnt worth it. I got kooks long tubes, catted x, full cat back exhuast, i got freaking 12hp and kooks themselves says the o/r system might get me 3 more. splice in midpipes are a cheap alternative. and if you mean an 0/R x to stock manifold, come on, like i said he might see a 7 hp gain if the mustang god's shined on him. not worth the hassle.

peice brother learn how to have some fun an argue a little bit, this is cars we are talking about.

[HMUSN]

an X pipe changes the flow path and makes the exhaust more efficient.
your basically freeing up power that was already there.
it's not much but every little bit helps.

it's just the internet..
lol

[BadGT06]

I know that the power gains wont be huge, but at least it will be a few extra ponies? (and 75 bucks isn't too bad a price!) Plus, If I buy Long tubes in the future I dont have to worry about getting o/r pipes that will fit. I'm just trying to upgrade a few more things with a $1000 that I won. I think I can get the most pwr (and a little sound) from: Aluminum driveshaft, JBA axle backs, this xpipe, and maybe a UDP or some LCA?

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by BadGT06 I know that the power gains wont be huge, but at least it will be a few extra ponies? (and 75 bucks isn't too bad a price!) Plus, If I buy Long tubes in the future I dont have to worry about getting o/r pipes that will fit. I'm just trying to upgrade a few more things with a $1000 that I won. I think I can get the most pwr (and a little sound) from: Aluminum driveshaft, JBA axle backs, this xpipe, and maybe a UDP or some LCA?

Well how about you buy it all from me and ill give you a deal.

Um as far as not haveing to upgrade it if you buy long tubes in the future. thats where it would get tricky. If you get long tubes you would have to modify your the stock legs that have the cats to fit the long tubes and the the xpipe.

[psycho bob]

hey 07stang did you have any problem with not being able to get the frpp peice tight. it wouldn't get tight for me and actually will move back and forth. it won't be a problem anymore as i will be getting lt's and highflow x. it was just very annoying that i could never get it tight to the stock pipe.

[07stanggt]

I didnt put in on the the dealership did. never had a problem with it. the x on my kooks system is a different story have had to mess with the left side twice, it will move.

[psycho bob]

yeah, i'm just going to have a shop weld it on i think. bad idea....maybe, but i won't have to deal with anything moving.

[BadGT06]

Thanks for the offer 07stang, but I have some friends who work at Latemodelrestoration.com. I usually order most of my stuff from them with a discount and they are local.

[mustanginca]

I have the ford xpipe with stock exhaust. Didn't feel a difference. Very little sound difference. But I'm sure when I put on some exhaust it will make a difference. I just had a muffler shop weld it in for $50. Can't beat that. Screw those damn clamps.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by BadGT06 Thanks for the offer 07stang, but I have some friends who work at Latemodelrestoration.com. I usually order most of my stuff from them with a discount and they are local.

no problem man. good deal.

Originally Posted by mustanginca I have the ford xpipe with stock exhaust. Didn't feel a difference. Very little sound difference. But I'm sure when I put on some exhaust it will make a difference. I just had a muffler shop weld it in for $50. Can't beat that. Screw those damn clamps.

what else do you have done?

[mustanginca]

what else do you have done?[/quote]

All I have is a CAI and the x-pipe. So it would be hard to tell a difference at this point.

[07stanggt]

well every car is different. All i had at that point was a cai and tune and gears. You can feel it slightly. I mean i spend a lot of time in automobiles period mabye thats why. but i could feel it pulling a little more. im not talking 20hp like i said 2 to 5.

[BadGT06]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt well every car is different. All i had at that point was a cai and tune and gears. You can feel it slightly. I mean i spend a lot of time in automobiles period mabye thats why. but i could feel it pulling a little more. im not talking 20hp like i said 2 to 5.

I got a buddy who works for JBA, he can get me longtube's, o/r H, and axle backs for under 900 with shipping...now here is the problem do I go for this or buy other parts? LTH's and Midpipe should give like 20hp? maybe?

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by BadGT06 I got a buddy who works for JBA, he can get me longtube's, o/r H, and axle backs for under 900 with shipping...now here is the problem do I go for this or buy other parts? LTH's and Midpipe should give like 20hp? maybe?

long tubes with an o/r H pipe will give you 12 on a 3 vavle. Remember where you heard that. do a before and after dyno.