S197 vs. 5.0

jamesbwhite · May 28th, 2008, 02:08 AM

My friend has a 1990 model 5.0 that has a CAI, reprogrammed, headers, O/R X pipe, and 3.73 gears with positive traction. Do you think he could beat my stock 07 GT?

Mickey · May 28th, 2008, 02:20 AM

ummm.....no

psycho bob · May 28th, 2008, 08:02 AM

for one no
for two just race him, asking is like saying i'm scared to race unless i know i'll win
for three this is in the wrong section
for four we'll forgive you since you're a rookie

1BADSTANG · May 28th, 2008, 08:55 AM

Dont be so sure. Most guys run high 13's with stock s197's. Most people can pull off low 14's with that setup in a fox. If he has good tires and a better driver than you i wouldnt be too sure

1FastFox · May 28th, 2008, 09:00 AM

Like Psycho said, just run him and find out. I bet it will be a good race. I bet that fox ( assuming the driver can drive ) could get into the mid-upper 13s on good tires. When my 91 had a similar setup to that I could run 13.6s all day ( but I had control arms and a few other suspension mods ). Only one way to find out...

1BADSTANG · May 28th, 2008, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by 1FastFox

Like Psycho said, just run him and find out. I bet it will be a good race. I bet that fox ( assuming the driver can drive ) could get into the mid-upper 13s on good tires. When my 91 had a similar setup to that I could run 13.6s all day ( but I had control arms and a few other suspension mods ). Only one way to find out...

13.6 with bolt ons and light suspension is a really impressive time, good job.

rk_2000_Z/28 · May 28th, 2008, 10:34 AM

My initial thought is NO! But fox bodies never cease to surprise the shit out of me, so be careful.

02StangGToWNEr · May 28th, 2008, 01:03 PM

Not a chance, unless he were Blown, did an engine build, or head & cam work were done. Other than that, his car don't have enough power with just the everyday typical bolt-ons.

06RedfireGT · May 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM

No way. They are 15 second cars stock.

07 STROKER · May 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM

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1FastFox · May 28th, 2008, 01:14 PM

You can get a stock one into high 14s, not to mention how many poeple have come on here and had time slips in the mid 14s on a 05+?

YouTube - 91 mustang drag race

Be sure to watch both races on the vid...

1BADSTANG · May 28th, 2008, 04:07 PM

yeah a full bolt on fox body and 3.73's would be a drivers race against a s197. stock s197 are heavy man. a fox with some gutting, such as ac delete/smog pump delete, no spare tire, other things make it easier.

02StangGToWNEr · May 28th, 2008, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

yeah a full bolt on fox body and 3.73's would be a drivers race against a s197. stock s197 are heavy man. a fox with some gutting, such as ac delete/smog pump delete, no spare tire, other things make it easier.

Heavy?? My 02 weighed 3293, and my 06 weighs 3359. I use to think the S197's were heavy to, but when I compared the weight on the cars, the S197 was only 66 pounds heavier. So they arn't that much heavier man. I think because they are a bigger car, most people assumed that they were heavy.

1BADSTANG · May 28th, 2008, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr

Heavy?? My 02 weighed 3293, and my 06 weighs 3359. I use to think the S197's were heavy to, but when I compared the weight on the cars, the S197 was only 66 pounds heavier. So they arn't that much heavier man. I think because they are a bigger car, most people assumed that they were heavy.

Nope sorry

1FastFox · May 28th, 2008, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr

Heavy?? My 02 weighed 3293, and my 06 weighs 3359. I use to think the S197's were heavy to, but when I compared the weight on the cars, the S197 was only 66 pounds heavier. So they arn't that much heavier man. I think because they are a bigger car, most people assumed that they were heavy.

yeah but a fox weighs 2800 as equiped from the factory... 500 lbs is a bit when rolling down the 1/4...
So the mustang gained 75 hp and 500 lbs b/w fox and s197.

02StangGToWNEr · May 28th, 2008, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by 1FastFox

yeah but a fox weighs 2800 as equiped from the factory... 500 lbs is a bit when rolling down the 1/4...
So the mustang gained 75 hp and 500 lbs b/w fox and s197.

I know that Foxes were light, but most people compare the S197 to the New Edge and say the S197's are Heavy, but they really arn't that heavy considering the size of the car.

02StangGToWNEr · May 28th, 2008, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

Nope sorry

It's ok bro. It's just all to common that people think that they are heavy, until they actually look at both of the 2 cars actual weight. When in reality the size of the S197 is what fools alot of people into thinking that it must be heavy.

1BADSTANG · May 28th, 2008, 06:19 PM

they act heavy, they handle heavy. The foxes are much easier to whip around. And what really helps them is slicks, because lots of low end torque plus light weight plus awesome traction equals sick drag times.

HMUSN · May 28th, 2008, 06:20 PM

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1BADSTANG · May 28th, 2008, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr

It's ok bro. It's just all to common that people think that they are heavy, until they actually look at both of the 2 cars actual weight. When in reality the size of the S197 is what fools alot of people into thinking that it must be heavy.

I own a supercharged s197 2007 california special. I know what im talking about its all going to be okay i promise.

May 28th, 2008, 02:08 AM	#1
jamesbwhite Newbie 2007 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 reviews	S197 vs. 5.0 My friend has a 1990 model 5.0 that has a CAI, reprogrammed, headers, O/R X pipe, and 3.73 gears with positive traction. Do you think he could beat my stock 07 GT?

May 28th, 2008, 02:20 AM	#2
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	ummm.....no __________________ Under Construction

May 28th, 2008, 09:00 AM	#5
1FastFox Skirt Chasing Phallus Phondler Kit Car/Ducati/Explorer Nike Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,487 iTrader: 4 reviews	Like Psycho said, just run him and find out. I bet it will be a good race. I bet that fox ( assuming the driver can drive ) could get into the mid-upper 13s on good tires. When my 91 had a similar setup to that I could run 13.6s all day ( but I had control arms and a few other suspension mods ). Only one way to find out... __________________ QUOTE OF THE DAY (5/25/12): “Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” ‐ Miles Davis

May 28th, 2008, 10:34 AM	#7
rk_2000_Z/28 Forever in our hearts travis_afx 2003 SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Enid, OK Posts: 4,311 iTrader: 0 reviews	My initial thought is NO! But fox bodies never cease to surprise the shit out of me, so be careful. __________________ 03 Cobra-Slow 02 SS, 00 Z/28-Gone Rest In Peace Travis Billings

May 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM	#9
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,484 iTrader: 2 reviews	No way. They are 15 second cars stock. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

May 28th, 2008, 08:55 AM	#4
1BADSTANG Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: long island Posts: 1,515 iTrader: 0 reviews	Dont be so sure. Most guys run high 13's with stock s197's. Most people can pull off low 14's with that setup in a fox. If he has good tires and a better driver than you i wouldnt be too sure

May 28th, 2008, 01:03 PM	#8
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,698 iTrader: 0 reviews	Not a chance, unless he were Blown, did an engine build, or head & cam work were done. Other than that, his car don't have enough power with just the everyday typical bolt-ons.

May 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM	#10
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May 28th, 2008, 04:07 PM	#12
1BADSTANG Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: long island Posts: 1,515 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah a full bolt on fox body and 3.73's would be a drivers race against a s197. stock s197 are heavy man. a fox with some gutting, such as ac delete/smog pump delete, no spare tire, other things make it easier.

May 28th, 2008, 06:19 PM	#18
1BADSTANG Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: long island Posts: 1,515 iTrader: 0 reviews	they act heavy, they handle heavy. The foxes are much easier to whip around. And what really helps them is slicks, because lots of low end torque plus light weight plus awesome traction equals sick drag times.

May 28th, 2008, 06:20 PM	#19
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	plus t3h Push Rod PowA __________________

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