[APER]

No i have the Nser Stage II's. I found this thread on another web forum. sorry for the confusion those aren't my numbers i just wnated to post the the numbers someone had with dynos with two different cams including the stock cam. Also the dyno sheet you provided 07stanggt had an overall way better power and torque curve than the dyno this guy posted. Anyway i'lkl try to cut and paste the sheet. Hey here's the sheet. The blue line is stock cams, the red line in the FRPP Hot Rod cams and the green line is the Thumpr

here are his mods: Pro 5.0 STS, C&L CAI with D/S 93, Steeda UDPs, Spohn LCAs & UCA, FRPP 4:10, JPC D/S, Eibach Pro Kit, Tokico D Specs, P/h bar, Chr VCs, FM 40s, BO Strut Brace, Seq. TLs, SLP LTs, SLP XPipe/high flow cats, Comp Cams Thumprs, JPC Chrome fuel rails, BBK Chrome Plenum Cover

[07stanggt]

Oh thanks for the sheet man thats nice info. Yea i thought didnt he buy cams from me and i know i didnt sell him thumpr cams. Thought maybe i was losin it.


I wander whos car that was. Ill try to hunt them down this weekend. I think i know whos car that is.


Funny thing about justins dyno is my car dynoed at 335hp on his dyno and a totally different curve then what you saw on my dynojet dyno. well not totally different but different. i wish my scanner was working.

Ill ask him which thumpr that was.

[APER]

man no Rep for the dyno sheet. This is a hard forum to satisfy..J/K..LOL

[killermach1]

07 I thought you were getting the Comp SPR Cams installed? I e-mailed JPC racing in MD and they quoted $1750 for install and tune on the SPR Cams if I supply the parts. They quoted $1625 if I get the cams and associated parts from them. I asked them what the cost of parts would be?

They quoted $1250 to install and tune the Comp NSR cams so like $500 difference between just Cams and Cams, Springs, Retainers, and Phaser limiters.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by killermach1 07 I thought you were getting the Comp SPR Cams installed? I e-mailed JPC racing in MD and they quoted $1750 for install and tune on the SPR Cams if I supply the parts. They quoted $1625 if I get the cams and associated parts from them. I asked them what the cost of parts would be? They quoted $1250 to install and tune the Comp NSR cams so like $500 difference between just Cams and Cams, Springs, Retainers, and Phaser limiters.

I am doing spr stage II cams. this thread was saying i have them on the way to stock them.

are you asking what the cost of the parts would be? well the cams are 740 retail, i dont know what justin charges for them, you know what i charge, the springs are like 300 and phaser limiters are 225, retainers are like 80. those are retail prices. So i dont know what to make of charging you 1750 for labor and basically 1625 for parts and labor, thats stupid unless im missing somthing.

He charged me 5 hours @ 95 per hour. he quoted someone else 550 to do the nsr cams. i dont get why he is quoting you 1250, unless he is charging you like 600 for dyno tune.

I like justin but those prices are high.

What kind of tuner do you have now? You dont even need a tune for nsr cams period and if you want one, get the tune from someone else or get doug from bamachips to email you one for them.

i would go to someone else for some better priceing.

check this out.

JPC quoted me about 2000 for heads and the spr stage IIs, I didnt even ask for a tune becuase he uses diablo.

SGS in dillsburg pa quoted me 1200 for a before power pull, install the heads and cams, and dyno tune afterwards. Now i dont need a tuner becuase they are just going to use my xcal. thats why i ask you if you had a tuner. He also said he would check my pinion angle and adjust it if he thought it needed it.

Shop around. just for the stage II spr cams with the spring swap i bet you could get it for 800. then what ever a tune would cost, becuase you do need a dyno tune for those spr cams.

[07stanggt]

I rep'd you aper. i meant to and forgot. It is great info actually.


btw killermach, you probably talked to tommy over at jpc?

[killermach1]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt I am doing spr stage II cams. this thread was saying i have them on the way to stock them. are you asking what the cost of the parts would be? well the cams are 740 retail, i dont know what justin charges for them, you know what i charge, the springs are like 300 and phaser limiters are 225, retainers are like 80. those are retail prices. So i dont know what to make of charging you 1750 for labor and basically 1625 for parts and labor, thats stupid unless im missing somthing. He charged me 5 hours @ 95 per hour. he quoted someone else 550 to do the nsr cams. i dont get why he is quoting you 1250, unless he is charging you like 600 for dyno tune. I like justin but those prices are high. What kind of tuner do you have now? You dont even need a tune for nsr cams period and if you want one, get the tune from someone else or get doug from bamachips to email you one for them. i would go to someone else for some better priceing. check this out. JPC quoted me about 2000 for heads and the spr stage IIs, I didnt even ask for a tune becuase he uses diablo. SGS in dillsburg pa quoted me 1200 for a before power pull, install the heads and cams, and dyno tune afterwards. Now i dont need a tuner becuase they are just going to use my xcal. thats why i ask you if you had a tuner. He also said he would check my pinion angle and adjust it if he thought it needed it. Shop around. just for the stage II spr cams with the spring swap i bet you could get it for 800. then what ever a tune would cost, becuase you do need a dyno tune for those spr cams.

I have an SCT Tuner, My big issue is I want it done right I know JPC has a good rep for this stuff. If anyone can reccoment someone comparable a little closer to NC and maybe a bit cheaperthat would be great.

[killermach1]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt I rep'd you aper. i meant to and forgot. It is great info actually. btw killermach, you probably talked to tommy over at jpc?

Yeah I think it was Tommy. I know there are probibly a dozen guys within 100 miles of me that could do this ether the SPR or NSR cams and tunes but I am one of those that if I dont know you or have not herd good stuff about you I don't fully trust you. JPC is known and the closest of their caliber to me that I know of. Like I stated above if anyone knows a good tuner / shop that could do the install and tune that is closer or in NC that would be awsome.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by killermach1 Yeah I think it was Tommy. I know there are probibly a dozen guys within 100 miles of me that could do this ether the SPR or NSR cams and tunes but I am one of those that if I dont know you or have not herd good stuff about you I don't fully trust you. JPC is known and the closest of their caliber to me that I know of. Like I stated above if anyone knows a good tuner / shop that could do the install and tune that is closer or in NC that would be awsome.

Well i can only speak about JPC and SGS.

SGS is about 1.5 hour further from you. They are great guys, have been on pinks, and won, in a fox body, against a camaro, so you gotta love that.

Very honest, not a lot of bullshit.

You really should start a seperate thread and title it that way, "good shops in NC." that would get you a lot of responses. A lot of people arent going to look in this thread.

But no way i would drive to md to pay that price. Good or not, it isnt worth that, your not haveing him build you a race car, its just a cam and spring swap. And he doesnt tune on xcal so your going to have to buy a predator from him which is why that dyno tune price is high.

[07stanggt]

i got a call into comp for someone else ill ask him about shops in nc that he might deal with well for you.

[killermach1]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt Well i can only speak about JPC and SGS. SGS is about 1.5 hour further from you. They are great guys, have been on pinks, and won, in a fox body, against a camaro, so you gotta love that. Very honest, not a lot of bullshit. You really should start a seperate thread and title it that way, "good shops in NC." that would get you a lot of responses. A lot of people arent going to look in this thread. But no way i would drive to md to pay that price. Good or not, it isnt worth that, your not haveing him build you a race car, its just a cam and spring swap. And he doesnt tune on xcal so your going to have to buy a predator from him which is why that dyno tune price is high.

ok thanks I'll start a thread on it.

[02StangGToWNEr]

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[07stanggt]

No those are the spr cams.

Comp has four basic lines of cams for 3 vavles. They are; NSR, Thumpr, VSR and SPR.

The NSR cams...... they require no spring upgrades or no phaser limiters as long as they are just droped in on basic setups. They are stage I part # 127050 and stage II 127200, Stage II nsr cams are very popular, they are the cams i and a lot of people are running on their car.

The Thumpr cams that are also NSR (no springs required) but unlike the nsr cams they DO require phaser limiters. They are brand new and not on Comps website yet. if you call comp you are likely to have someone tell you they dont know what your talking about, Give them these part #s 127010, 127020, 127030, respectively stage, 1, 2, and, 3. They will be able to look them up and then say, oh i didnt know the thumpr's were out for the 3 vavle. (i had this happen today)

Next is the oldest of the 3 vavle cams from comp the VSR line. There are now 2 stages listed of these cams, though there were more and im sure you could get the other grinds. they require spring upgrades but no phaser limiters. they part numbers are 127100, stage I and 127300 stage II, the 127300 were also a popular grind and a lot of people are running them, they use to be commonly refered to as stage IIIs.


The SPR cams are fairly new. They are the most aggressive of the comp off the shelf cams for the 3 vavles. they require springs and phaser limiters. There is stage I, 127400, stage II, 127500 and stage III 127600, the 127600 cams require ported heads to be effective.

In all of these grinds except for the thumpr line up there are also blower, or what i would call high boost grinds, usually the part numbers for those are the same as the n/a grind with with either a 05, or 50 at the end

for example the stage II spr blower grind is 127550, n/a stage II spr grind is 127500.

the stage II NSR blower grind is 127205, the n/a grind 127200. so forth.

here is a link to comps site with all these grinds listed. I hope this helps, comp has changed names of the grinds and part numbers lately and since they have come out with so much new stuff it gets confuseing.


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