Motive 4.10's Worth $75 NIB?

coolhandluke · October 13th, 2008, 03:29 PM

I can pick up a set of Motive 4.10's new in box for $75. I know that some people have had issues with Motive gears being noisy, but I haven't heard any issues with them failing in any way.

Are they worth the $75?

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AMmuslGT · October 13th, 2008, 03:36 PM

yea maybe they are worht 75 but my friend bought an 03 cobra and it had those gears and he ended up replacing them after 8 months

Emay · October 13th, 2008, 03:49 PM

Why in the world even try if we have repeatedly warned and the word is they are typically noisey. That 75.00 is going to cause you a lifetime of annoyance driving down the road listening to gear whine. I wouldn't care if they were free.

FRPP gears non motive cast are only about a 149.00 I wouldn't pinch pennies here.

spike spiegel · October 13th, 2008, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by coolhandluke

I can pick up a set of Motive 4.10's new in box for $75. I know that some people have had issues with Motive gears being noisy, but I haven't heard any issues with them failing in any way.

Are they worth the $75?

Motive 4.10 Mustang Gears at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

id get them they shouldnt whine if installed correctly

Emay · October 13th, 2008, 03:55 PM

here we go again..

coolhandluke · October 13th, 2008, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Emay

Why in the world even try if we have repeatedly warned and the word is they are typically noisey. That 75.00 is going to cause you a lifetime of annoyance driving down the road listening to gear whine. I wouldn't care if they were free.

FRPP gears non motive cast are only about a 149.00 I wouldn't pinch pennies here.

I've heard people complain about every brand of gear being noisy in different cases...FRPP and Richmonds included. I was just wanting to know if this is a brand issue or install issue. I've heard plenty of people say that they have no noise at all from their Motives.

If the complaints that I've heard about are an install issue I was going to pick them up. Not all of us can drop $ as liberally as others...the $75 could have been put to good use somewhere else.

I'll probably just buy a set of FRPP's from Brenspeed in a couple months so that I can have the free tune update.

Emay · October 13th, 2008, 04:16 PM

cool, if you search here on MM, and do the same on stangnet, s197, modular, svtperformance and any other ford forum, you will find that motive landed the contract for a short stint to manufacture the repackaged FRPP gears. Ford discontinued the association with motive after only a few short months and the general public was not told why. During that time frame 4.10 gear whine issues became severely prevalant. Well known installers/shops with year and years of non-issue gear installs began having mass problems with customer returns.

Once the stock thinned out less complaints occurred. Ford still hasn't released or admitted to be the wiser. However, those that purposely ordered non motive FRPP parts had non issues when they went back to the very same installers and the new non motive manufactured parts installed.

07stanggt · October 13th, 2008, 04:40 PM

its a peice of mind issue as well. The fact of the matter is if you get the motives and they whine everyone including yourself and the shop that installed them will blame the gears. If you get FRPP and they whine, you will blame the shop and demand that they be fixed, and the shop will not have an excuse.

At this point its up to richmond and motive quite frankly to fix the problem if there is one, or start threatening shops with law suits for blaming their product.

navyman8903 · October 13th, 2008, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Emay

cool, if you search here on MM, and do the same on stangnet, s197, modular, svtperformance and any other ford forum, you will find that motive landed the contract for a short stint to manufacture the repackaged FRPP gears. Ford discontinued the association with motive after only a few short months and the general public was not told why. During that time frame 4.10 gear whine issues became severely prevalant. Well known installers/shops with year and years of non-issue gear installs began having mass problems with customer returns.

Once the stock thinned out less complaints occurred. Ford still hasn't released or admitted to be the wiser. However, those that purposely ordered non motive FRPP parts had non issues when they went back to the very same installers and the new non motive manufactured parts installed.

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

its a peice of mind issue as well. The fact of the matter is if you get the motives and they whine everyone including yourself and the shop that installed them will blame the gears. If you get FRPP and they whine, you will blame the shop and demand that they be fixed, and the shop will not have an excuse.

At this point its up to richmond and motive quite frankly to fix the problem if there is one, or start threatening shops with law suits for blaming their product.

sometimes it is better to spend the money and get the good stuff and do it once. Plus we wouldn't send you in the wrong direction. I'd get the ford racing gears because you can always do what 07stanggt said and the shop should stand by the quality of the ford gears, where as the motive.....I usually always go with big name products for that reason.

06GTMustang89 · October 13th, 2008, 05:48 PM

NOOOO do not get motive i changed my motives out for FRPP's the whine was unbareable....if you gonna do it..do it right the first time

coolhandluke · October 13th, 2008, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Emay

cool, if you search here on MM, and do the same on stangnet, s197, modular, svtperformance and any other ford forum, you will find that motive landed the contract for a short stint to manufacture the repackaged FRPP gears. Ford discontinued the association with motive after only a few short months and the general public was not told why. During that time frame 4.10 gear whine issues became severely prevalant. Well known installers/shops with year and years of non-issue gear installs began having mass problems with customer returns.

Once the stock thinned out less complaints occurred. Ford still hasn't released or admitted to be the wiser. However, those that purposely ordered non motive FRPP parts had non issues when they went back to the very same installers and the new non motive manufactured parts installed.

Cool...that was just the information that I was looking for. I had no idea that there were so many issues. I'll get the FRPP's.

06GTMustang89 · October 13th, 2008, 07:29 PM

good choice my friend good choice

qwik48r · October 13th, 2008, 11:37 PM

me and 06gtmustang89 got our motives about the same time... we replaced em with frpp about the same time too...

nuff said in this dead thread.

302svt · October 14th, 2008, 12:49 AM

Here is the correct part number for the Ford made FRPP gears M4209G410A.

deekum1627 · October 14th, 2008, 01:38 AM

if the are installed right they will whine, so stay away get the frpp

Arsenal · October 14th, 2008, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by coolhandluke

I can pick up a set of Motive 4.10's new in box for $75. I know that some people have had issues with Motive gears being noisy, but I haven't heard any issues with them failing in any way.

Are they worth the $75?

Motive 4.10 Mustang Gears at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

buy em, then sell em on ebay for 100 bucks

October 13th, 2008, 03:29 PM	#1
coolhandluke Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,143 iTrader: 2 reviews	Motive 4.10's Worth $75 NIB? I can pick up a set of Motive 4.10's new in box for $75. I know that some people have had issues with Motive gears being noisy, but I haven't heard any issues with them failing in any way. Are they worth the $75? Motive 4.10 Mustang Gears at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! __________________ 1967 Styled G.T. 350 S197 tribute - see garage for list of mods.

October 13th, 2008, 03:36 PM	#2
AMmuslGT Baby Punchin' Champ 2008 Mustang GT I have a toy Pony. He takes Big shits Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gilbert, Az Near phoenix Posts: 1,857 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea maybe they are worht 75 but my friend bought an 03 cobra and it had those gears and he ended up replacing them after 8 months __________________ Mods In garage

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Emay May 08 ROTM 2008 Audi S6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: S. Elgin Posts: 6,684 iTrader: 3 reviews	Why in the world even try if we have repeatedly warned and the word is they are typically noisey. That 75.00 is going to cause you a lifetime of annoyance driving down the road listening to gear whine. I wouldn't care if they were free. FRPP gears non motive cast are only about a 149.00 I wouldn't pinch pennies here. __________________ FLICKR Unique Imagery

October 13th, 2008, 03:55 PM	#5
Emay May 08 ROTM 2008 Audi S6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: S. Elgin Posts: 6,684 iTrader: 3 reviews	here we go again.. __________________ FLICKR Unique Imagery

October 13th, 2008, 04:16 PM	#7
Emay May 08 ROTM 2008 Audi S6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: S. Elgin Posts: 6,684 iTrader: 3 reviews	cool, if you search here on MM, and do the same on stangnet, s197, modular, svtperformance and any other ford forum, you will find that motive landed the contract for a short stint to manufacture the repackaged FRPP gears. Ford discontinued the association with motive after only a few short months and the general public was not told why. During that time frame 4.10 gear whine issues became severely prevalant. Well known installers/shops with year and years of non-issue gear installs began having mass problems with customer returns. Once the stock thinned out less complaints occurred. Ford still hasn't released or admitted to be the wiser. However, those that purposely ordered non motive FRPP parts had non issues when they went back to the very same installers and the new non motive manufactured parts installed. __________________ FLICKR Unique Imagery

October 13th, 2008, 04:40 PM	#8
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	its a peice of mind issue as well. The fact of the matter is if you get the motives and they whine everyone including yourself and the shop that installed them will blame the gears. If you get FRPP and they whine, you will blame the shop and demand that they be fixed, and the shop will not have an excuse. At this point its up to richmond and motive quite frankly to fix the problem if there is one, or start threatening shops with law suits for blaming their product. Last edited by 07stanggt; October 13th, 2008 at 04:45 PM.

October 13th, 2008, 05:48 PM	#10
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,178 iTrader: 0 reviews	NOOOO do not get motive i changed my motives out for FRPP's the whine was unbareable....if you gonna do it..do it right the first time __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

October 13th, 2008, 07:29 PM	#12
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 6spd 12.61@109mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,178 iTrader: 0 reviews	good choice my friend good choice __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

October 13th, 2008, 11:37 PM	#13
qwik48r MM Fanatic alotta shit no fat girls fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 reviews	me and 06gtmustang89 got our motives about the same time... we replaced em with frpp about the same time too... nuff said in this dead thread. __________________ mind your business what i drive... i'm on a fucking mustang forum. qwik's build

October 14th, 2008, 12:49 AM	#14
302svt Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Eastern, KY Posts: 163 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here is the correct part number for the Ford made FRPP gears M4209G410A.

October 14th, 2008, 01:38 AM	#15
deekum1627 Regular 2008 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: long island Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 reviews	if the are installed right they will whine, so stay away get the frpp __________________ Dyno Tuned by Realspeed 304 rwhp/tq

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