Fed up with 3650

06VistaBlueGT · October 16th, 2008, 07:39 PM

I'm so pissed at this transmission. This 2nd gear grinding issue is really ridiculous. So far this year I've had 2nd gear synchro and gear replaced, tried to put a RAM TOB in but it leaked when being bled. Also had a spec Stage 1 installed at same time. Still grinding in 2nd. Got the TOB back from RAM (3 freakin weeks later). Had that installed and had 2nd gear inspected again. Gear was trashed but synchro was good. Trans shop tried an old racers trick, he ground down every other tooth on 2nd gear to allow the synchro more time to engage. Had the rebuilt RAM TOB installed at the same time. This time no leaking. Upon driving it home, TOB blew, had to limp the car home. Had car towed to local shop to have factory TOB installed. Emailed RAM told them I wanted a refund, they wanted to know what all the gaps, etc are. I told them the car's in the shop with the trans out and factory TOB being installed. They refuse to give a refund. I will never deal with RAM again. Got car back tonight, this was the first time testing it since 2nd gear had every other tooth ground down. Piece of junk still grinds into 2nd under high RPM shifting. I also have another symptom. When trans is hot, it gets hard to get into 1st gear. I'm so frustrated with this thing. I'm thinking about getting a replacement from new takeoffs for $699 but I'm afraid I'm going to have the same problem. I have a 4r70w sitting in my garage to put in it but I don't have the $$$ to have it rebuilt and buy everything I need to get it into the car. OK, sorry, just had to vent.

chad05gt · October 16th, 2008, 08:18 PM

TR6060 w/ RAM Powergrip HD, billett steel flywheel, and STOCK tob (use the shim that comes in the HD kit) and your problems are solved..... for GOOD!!

06VistaBlueGT · October 16th, 2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by chad05gt

TR6060 w/ RAM Powergrip HD, billett steel flywheel, and STOCK tob (use the shim that comes in the HD kit) and your problems are solved..... for GOOD!!

I looked into that but it would cost more than doing the 4r70w. And I will never deal with RAM again but I'm sure there are other clutch choices that I could use.

deekum1627 · October 16th, 2008, 09:14 PM

that sucks man good luck with a fix why dont you have the tranny rebuild by a good shop

06VistaBlueGT · October 16th, 2008, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by deekum1627

that sucks man good luck with a fix why dont you have the tranny rebuild by a good shop

I did. The shop who replaced 2nd gear is a very well known shop with a great rep. They're as confused about it as i am.

chad05gt · October 17th, 2008, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by 06VistaBlueGT

I did. The shop who replaced 2nd gear is a very well known shop with a great rep. They're as confused about it as i am.

If they are 'confused' about why a tr3650 needed a 2nd gear replaced... their reputation is now suspect. These trains are notorious for the problem you are facing (I went thru 2, original and one 'built' w/ 26 shaft... It would have been cheaper if I'd gone tr6060 in the first place...

JMO
good luck

06RedfireGT · October 17th, 2008, 11:58 AM

The 3650 is crap. Makes me happy that mine is an auto.

Goldcomet · October 17th, 2008, 12:01 PM

My daughter's 02 GT grunts going in to 2cd when it's cold. It's sad that this problem has been going on for years and they can't correct it. Other brands of cars w/ manual trans don't do this.

usafimj · October 17th, 2008, 12:11 PM

Time for a D&D Performance 6spd tranny

TheUNZippee! · October 17th, 2008, 12:22 PM

05-08 6 Speed Kit

06VistaBlueGT · October 17th, 2008, 12:31 PM

I'll go with a the 4r70w before I go with a manual again. This car sees more 1/4 mile time than street time. I love driving a stick and have for years but for racing, I'm going to go auto.

06VistaBlueGT · October 17th, 2008, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee!

05-08 6 Speed Kit

That is a nice kit but I'd have less into converting to a 4r70w. The trans is sitting in my garage waiting to be rebuilt. i just need the money to do it.

TheUNZippee! · October 17th, 2008, 12:35 PM

All depends what you're in to. I prefer to handle the stick.

lol

Emay · October 17th, 2008, 01:03 PM

All the items above are a Non issue with my car and as you all see with the vids floating around I'm hard as, if not harder than most, on this car. Other than disinegrating the tail shaft back in the spring (own fault) I think I got a factory freak, because even at my power level, I may replace my clutch when it's time with another oem. I'm that happy with my entire setup across the board.

06VistaBlueGT · October 17th, 2008, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Emay

All the items above are a Non issue with my car and as you all see with the vids floating around I'm hard as, if not harder than most, on this car. Other than disinegrating the tail shaft back in the spring (own fault) I think I got a factory freak, because even at my power level, I may replace my clutch when it's time with another oem. I'm that happy with my entire setup across the board.

You're still using the factory clutch? I was wondering if maybe that is my issue? I'm running a spec stage 1 since I'm not FI. I was considering giving it one more shot. Having 2nd replaced again and installing a factory clutch. I may go with a new factory flywheel as well since this one has been resurfaced.

Might be worth a shot.

I did just call ST Motorsports. Adam is going to give me a call with a quote on an install kit for the 4r70w.

Bhblondguy · October 17th, 2008, 02:55 PM

that sucks man.

I'm still on the factory clutch too, at 65,000 miles and hard driving...santa claus doesn't give any breaks

Mine has been fine, but I'm starting to get that grinding into second at high rpms so I know what you are talking about.

October 16th, 2008, 07:39 PM	#1
06VistaBlueGT Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT 12.76@105 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stark County, Ohio Posts: 878 iTrader: 0 reviews	Fed up with 3650 I'm so pissed at this transmission. This 2nd gear grinding issue is really ridiculous. So far this year I've had 2nd gear synchro and gear replaced, tried to put a RAM TOB in but it leaked when being bled. Also had a spec Stage 1 installed at same time. Still grinding in 2nd. Got the TOB back from RAM (3 freakin weeks later). Had that installed and had 2nd gear inspected again. Gear was trashed but synchro was good. Trans shop tried an old racers trick, he ground down every other tooth on 2nd gear to allow the synchro more time to engage. Had the rebuilt RAM TOB installed at the same time. This time no leaking. Upon driving it home, TOB blew, had to limp the car home. Had car towed to local shop to have factory TOB installed. Emailed RAM told them I wanted a refund, they wanted to know what all the gaps, etc are. I told them the car's in the shop with the trans out and factory TOB being installed. They refuse to give a refund. I will never deal with RAM again. Got car back tonight, this was the first time testing it since 2nd gear had every other tooth ground down. Piece of junk still grinds into 2nd under high RPM shifting. I also have another symptom. When trans is hot, it gets hard to get into 1st gear. I'm so frustrated with this thing. I'm thinking about getting a replacement from new takeoffs for $699 but I'm afraid I'm going to have the same problem. I have a 4r70w sitting in my garage to put in it but I don't have the $$$ to have it rebuilt and buy everything I need to get it into the car. OK, sorry, just had to vent.

October 16th, 2008, 09:14 PM	#4
deekum1627 Regular 2008 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: long island Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 reviews	that sucks man good luck with a fix why dont you have the tranny rebuild by a good shop __________________ Dyno Tuned by Realspeed 304 rwhp/tq

October 17th, 2008, 11:58 AM	#7
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,484 iTrader: 2 reviews	The 3650 is crap. Makes me happy that mine is an auto. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 17th, 2008, 12:01 PM	#8
Goldcomet Enthusiast 2007 Mustang Gt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 536 iTrader: 0 reviews	My daughter's 02 GT grunts going in to 2cd when it's cold. It's sad that this problem has been going on for years and they can't correct it. Other brands of cars w/ manual trans don't do this. __________________ There are many like it but this one is mine!!!.........Full Metal Jacket 1987

October 17th, 2008, 12:11 PM	#9
usafimj I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 Ford Mustang GT 12.847 @ 114.12mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok. Posts: 5,086 iTrader: 1 reviews	Time for a D&D Performance 6spd tranny __________________ 07 GT-- Gone But Not Forgotten Military Crew E-5

October 17th, 2008, 12:31 PM	#11
06VistaBlueGT Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT 12.76@105 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stark County, Ohio Posts: 878 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'll go with a the 4r70w before I go with a manual again. This car sees more 1/4 mile time than street time. I love driving a stick and have for years but for racing, I'm going to go auto.

October 17th, 2008, 01:03 PM	#14
Emay May 08 ROTM 2008 Audi S6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: S. Elgin Posts: 6,684 iTrader: 3 reviews	All the items above are a Non issue with my car and as you all see with the vids floating around I'm hard as, if not harder than most, on this car. Other than disinegrating the tail shaft back in the spring (own fault) I think I got a factory freak, because even at my power level, I may replace my clutch when it's time with another oem. I'm that happy with my entire setup across the board. __________________ FLICKR Unique Imagery

October 17th, 2008, 02:55 PM	#16
Bhblondguy Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 12.00@114.82 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baytown, Tx. Posts: 1,234 iTrader: 0 reviews	that sucks man. I'm still on the factory clutch too, at 65,000 miles and hard driving...santa claus doesn't give any breaks Mine has been fine, but I'm starting to get that grinding into second at high rpms so I know what you are talking about.

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