298 stroker

05roush0090 · October 18th, 2008, 10:24 AM

ok, let me get my facts strait here. with the 298 stroker kit from livernois you are basically swapping out parts, no boring honing etc. correct? Also if I get a local reputable mechanic to install it for me will it be safe to drive around a little before taking it to brenspeed for the blower and tune? Let me know fellas.

TheUNZippee! · October 18th, 2008, 10:38 AM

Anytime you rebuild the bottom end, you will be using new rings. Which means that the cylinders will need to be properly honed.

Boring is only done if you wish to further increase displacement.

I don't believe you need to touch anything on the tune by doing the bottom end. I'm not positive though. I am sure someone else will know for sure here.

05roush0090 · October 18th, 2008, 11:31 AM

so some machine work will need to be done is what your saying.

TheUNZippee! · October 18th, 2008, 11:32 AM

Yup.

05roush0090 · October 18th, 2008, 11:42 AM

Man I love this site!!! So much to learn and so little time. I am leaning towards the 298 stroker kit for my build now. I have to get everything figured out before I have the money that way I can get started as soon as I have it. I have to talk to a guy about installing it still but I am confident he can do as long as he is not too busy, (he does alot of resto mods etc). So its looking like a Livernois 298ci stroker kit and brenspeed paxton novi2200.

TheUNZippee! · October 18th, 2008, 11:46 AM

Thank man. This site loves it's members.

tribaltek · October 18th, 2008, 12:27 PM

I've looked at this idea a few times as well, but to me, it seems like just buying the 298 short block (and some new heads and cams... cause why not?) and then selling your stock engine to recoup some costs would be about the same price as getting all of the machine work done to your old block.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

05roush0090 · October 18th, 2008, 12:52 PM

Man I dont know.....$5 grand for short block another $2 grand for heads etc....I think you would be looking at around $10 grand or more and only getting around $2-2.5 grand back from selling your stock motor. I still think it would be cheaper just to buy the rotating assembly and have it installed. I wouldnt think it would cost more than $5grand parts and labor. But then again I dont know either as I have never had it done yet.

07 STROKER · October 18th, 2008, 12:53 PM

the 298 stroker kit requires block prep to honor the livernois warrenty. Cylider hone of .002 for the rings. Line hone on the mains and for a long block i believe a deck plane. its also a good idea to let them take off any rough casting edges. these lead to cracks on these blocks apparently in some cases of making big power.

tribaltek · October 18th, 2008, 12:59 PM

I guess I just look at it like "Go Big or Go Home".

I, obviously, have "gone home" for the most part so far

07 STROKER · October 18th, 2008, 12:59 PM

i am getting my short block built for 960.00

My heads are being ported and polished for 600.00

i already have cams so they will stay put.

i am taking the engine out and putting it back myself so i save there.

i bougt the steeda race delete plates for around 350.00

so really 960 plus 600 is all its costing me to forge my engine...plus 80 bucks for a gt 500 oil pump.

05roush0090 · October 18th, 2008, 01:21 PM

What bottum end did you buy if you dont mind me asking?

tribaltek · October 18th, 2008, 02:12 PM

07 - I guess that isn't a bad deal at all. I'm in money-saving mode right now anyways (about to buy a house), so will most likely wait on the forged internals until NEXT Winter

I'm PM'ing you about the port/polish for more info

07 STROKER · October 18th, 2008, 02:44 PM

its the livernois 298 kit i bought

TheUNZippee! · October 18th, 2008, 03:16 PM

Ken said head

05roush0090 · October 18th, 2008, 03:51 PM

WOH!!

SUHLeen · October 18th, 2008, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by 07 procharger

i am getting my short block built for 960.00

My heads are being ported and polished for 600.00

i already have cams so they will stay put.

i am taking the engine out and putting it back myself so i save there.

i bougt the steeda race delete plates for around 350.00

so really 960 plus 600 is all its costing me to forge my engine...plus 80 bucks for a gt 500 oil pump.

Is this a typo? haha

07 STROKER · October 18th, 2008, 05:17 PM

nope thats my cost on it

usafimj · October 19th, 2008, 02:43 PM

only thing you do to the block is clean up the cylinder walls. Your stock heads and cams will work fine with the 298 stroker and s/c until you feel the need for more power.

05roush0090 · October 19th, 2008, 04:22 PM

yep yep....07procharger filled me in about the .002 honing of cylinder walls. Thanks for posting though.

October 18th, 2008, 10:24 AM	#1
05roush0090 Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT Roush Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 735 iTrader: 0 reviews	298 stroker ok, let me get my facts strait here. with the 298 stroker kit from livernois you are basically swapping out parts, no boring honing etc. correct? Also if I get a local reputable mechanic to install it for me will it be safe to drive around a little before taking it to brenspeed for the blower and tune? Let me know fellas. __________________ 2005 BLACK Mustang GT Roush #05-0090 DOB manifold, m122 SC, gt500 TB, 52lbers, KB BAP, AFCO HE,Brisk plugs, Mac Lt's, Off road x, Roush TVS CAI, Detroit rocker sc grind cams, Brenspeed 93 tune, 10 psi (2.875" pulley) 470rwhp-419ftlbs sae

October 18th, 2008, 11:31 AM	#3
05roush0090 Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT Roush Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 735 iTrader: 0 reviews	so some machine work will need to be done is what your saying. __________________ 2005 BLACK Mustang GT Roush #05-0090 DOB manifold, m122 SC, gt500 TB, 52lbers, KB BAP, AFCO HE,Brisk plugs, Mac Lt's, Off road x, Roush TVS CAI, Detroit rocker sc grind cams, Brenspeed 93 tune, 10 psi (2.875" pulley) 470rwhp-419ftlbs sae

October 18th, 2008, 11:42 AM	#5
05roush0090 Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT Roush Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 735 iTrader: 0 reviews	Man I love this site!!! So much to learn and so little time. I am leaning towards the 298 stroker kit for my build now. I have to get everything figured out before I have the money that way I can get started as soon as I have it. I have to talk to a guy about installing it still but I am confident he can do as long as he is not too busy, (he does alot of resto mods etc). So its looking like a Livernois 298ci stroker kit and brenspeed paxton novi2200. __________________ 2005 BLACK Mustang GT Roush #05-0090 DOB manifold, m122 SC, gt500 TB, 52lbers, KB BAP, AFCO HE,Brisk plugs, Mac Lt's, Off road x, Roush TVS CAI, Detroit rocker sc grind cams, Brenspeed 93 tune, 10 psi (2.875" pulley) 470rwhp-419ftlbs sae

October 18th, 2008, 12:27 PM	#7
tribaltek Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,508 iTrader: 1 reviews	I've looked at this idea a few times as well, but to me, it seems like just buying the 298 short block (and some new heads and cams... cause why not?) and then selling your stock engine to recoup some costs would be about the same price as getting all of the machine work done to your old block. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. __________________ '06 Whipple'd Mustang GT (Coming Soon) '02 Supercharged Harley-Davidson F-150 (Sold) '05 Mustang GT (Sold)

October 18th, 2008, 12:52 PM	#8
05roush0090 Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT Roush Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 735 iTrader: 0 reviews	Man I dont know.....$5 grand for short block another $2 grand for heads etc....I think you would be looking at around $10 grand or more and only getting around $2-2.5 grand back from selling your stock motor. I still think it would be cheaper just to buy the rotating assembly and have it installed. I wouldnt think it would cost more than $5grand parts and labor. But then again I dont know either as I have never had it done yet. __________________ 2005 BLACK Mustang GT Roush #05-0090 DOB manifold, m122 SC, gt500 TB, 52lbers, KB BAP, AFCO HE,Brisk plugs, Mac Lt's, Off road x, Roush TVS CAI, Detroit rocker sc grind cams, Brenspeed 93 tune, 10 psi (2.875" pulley) 470rwhp-419ftlbs sae

October 18th, 2008, 12:53 PM	#9
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	the 298 stroker kit requires block prep to honor the livernois warrenty. Cylider hone of .002 for the rings. Line hone on the mains and for a long block i believe a deck plane. its also a good idea to let them take off any rough casting edges. these lead to cracks on these blocks apparently in some cases of making big power. __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

October 18th, 2008, 12:59 PM	#10
tribaltek Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,508 iTrader: 1 reviews	I guess I just look at it like "Go Big or Go Home". I, obviously, have "gone home" for the most part so far __________________ '06 Whipple'd Mustang GT (Coming Soon) '02 Supercharged Harley-Davidson F-150 (Sold) '05 Mustang GT (Sold)

October 18th, 2008, 01:21 PM	#12
05roush0090 Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT Roush Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 735 iTrader: 0 reviews	What bottum end did you buy if you dont mind me asking? __________________ 2005 BLACK Mustang GT Roush #05-0090 DOB manifold, m122 SC, gt500 TB, 52lbers, KB BAP, AFCO HE,Brisk plugs, Mac Lt's, Off road x, Roush TVS CAI, Detroit rocker sc grind cams, Brenspeed 93 tune, 10 psi (2.875" pulley) 470rwhp-419ftlbs sae

October 18th, 2008, 02:12 PM	#13
tribaltek Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,508 iTrader: 1 reviews	07 - I guess that isn't a bad deal at all. I'm in money-saving mode right now anyways (about to buy a house), so will most likely wait on the forged internals until NEXT Winter I'm PM'ing you about the port/polish for more info __________________ '06 Whipple'd Mustang GT (Coming Soon) '02 Supercharged Harley-Davidson F-150 (Sold) '05 Mustang GT (Sold)

October 18th, 2008, 02:44 PM	#14
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	its the livernois 298 kit i bought __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

October 18th, 2008, 03:51 PM	#16
05roush0090 Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT Roush Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 735 iTrader: 0 reviews	WOH!! __________________ 2005 BLACK Mustang GT Roush #05-0090 DOB manifold, m122 SC, gt500 TB, 52lbers, KB BAP, AFCO HE,Brisk plugs, Mac Lt's, Off road x, Roush TVS CAI, Detroit rocker sc grind cams, Brenspeed 93 tune, 10 psi (2.875" pulley) 470rwhp-419ftlbs sae

October 18th, 2008, 05:17 PM	#18
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,920 iTrader: 0 reviews	nope thats my cost on it __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

October 19th, 2008, 02:43 PM	#19
usafimj I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 Ford Mustang GT 12.847 @ 114.12mph Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok. Posts: 5,086 iTrader: 1 reviews	only thing you do to the block is clean up the cylinder walls. Your stock heads and cams will work fine with the 298 stroker and s/c until you feel the need for more power. __________________ 07 GT-- Gone But Not Forgotten Military Crew E-5

October 19th, 2008, 04:22 PM	#20
05roush0090 Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT Roush Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 735 iTrader: 0 reviews	yep yep....07procharger filled me in about the .002 honing of cylinder walls. Thanks for posting though. __________________ 2005 BLACK Mustang GT Roush #05-0090 DOB manifold, m122 SC, gt500 TB, 52lbers, KB BAP, AFCO HE,Brisk plugs, Mac Lt's, Off road x, Roush TVS CAI, Detroit rocker sc grind cams, Brenspeed 93 tune, 10 psi (2.875" pulley) 470rwhp-419ftlbs sae

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