[JakeM]

Which would be better for the rear. I have heard a couple of instances where the Tokico's have failed with someone using drag radials. Is there any truth to this? Which would be better for a weekend driver that goes to the strip on the regular? At least twice a month. With the deals on the Tokico's going around for the end of the year I'm tempted to just drop the $$ on a full set of tokico's.

What do you guys think?

[qwik48r]

one on each side

I vote QA1's because thats all I have ever used...

[speeddemon06]

I'm actually really curious about this. any say from anyone else?

[PiggySmallz]

i don't drag the car but I'm not a big fan of my tokico's...i'm looking to replace them with bilsteins

[navyman8903]

Originally Posted by PiggySmallz i don't drag the car but I'm not a big fan of my tokico's...i'm looking to replace them with bilsteins

what is wrong with them? And are they the adj d-spec's?

[PiggySmallz]

yes i have the dspecs. I think the problem is they don't like these new york roads and I blew them out lol. I gotta call tokico and get them repaired. Realistically though I really love the bilsteins. I've been in a car with them, it's a nice difference. Plus I never adjust the d specs so it's a waste to me. The bilsteins are more expensive but they are great

[navyman8903]

My home town is syracuse/ auburn and believe it or not the roads are worse, and I'm not trying to do the same.

[forensicsteve]

Cannot comment on the Tokico. We use the QA1 dual adjustables all the way around. Seem to work fine, although we're starting chassis tuning at the track as well as datalogging...so might find some improvements.

Obviously, lots of other parts to the traction puzzle...but Lance averages mid 1.4 sixties with a 1.41 best (see Timeslips)

[PiggySmallz]

Originally Posted by navyman8903 My home town is syracuse/ auburn and believe it or not the roads are worse, and I'm not trying to do the same.

lol not possible, every street is ripped up or uneven here. It sickens me lol

[07stanggt]

I generally avoid this topic becuase one, im the first guy i know of to have bought bilsteins on the new stang and two the d specs are popular. Most guys that get them are happy with them.

But if i totalled my car tomorrow and bought a new stang. Bilsteins would go in without a second thought.

Unless i were looking to do a fully adjustable coilover conversion kit like the full qa1 setup.

Bilsteins have a lifetime unlimited warranty, and at any time you can have them revavled for a more specific setup for $60.

All shocks includings the d specs are self adjusting to conditions if you know what i mean. The bilsteins just do it better then others.

[black05stxjt]

i vote qa1....but i have strange adjustable's on my car and they seem to work well and for the money!

[JakeM]

Originally Posted by forensicsteve Cannot comment on the Tokico. We use the QA1 dual adjustables all the way around. Seem to work fine, although we're starting chassis tuning at the track as well as datalogging...so might find some improvements. Obviously, lots of other parts to the traction puzzle...but Lance averages mid 1.4 sixties with a 1.41 best (see Timeslips)

I love your car and Lance can drive!!! I've been watching your progress and all I have to say is, you guys have done a awesome job with that car. Have you guys ever run into any problems with the rears? If your care isn't breakin' them I know mine won't.

Originally Posted by 07stanggt I generally avoid this topic becuase one, im the first guy i know of to have bought bilsteins on the new stang and two the d specs are popular. Most guys that get them are happy with them. But if i totalled my car tomorrow and bought a new stang. Bilsteins would go in without a second thought. Unless i were looking to do a fully adjustable coilover conversion kit like the full qa1 setup. Bilsteins have a lifetime unlimited warranty, and at any time you can have them revavled for a more specific setup for $60. All shocks includings the d specs are self adjusting to conditions if you know what i mean. The bilsteins just do it better then others.

Your not the first person I've heard this from. Although, I wonder if they are as benificial at the strip as they are at the road coarse/auto-x events? I understand bilstien makes some of the greatest shocks but I don't know if they are right with my application. Did you notice an improvment at the strip with the bilstiens over othe D-specs? Or have you just had bilstiens?

Originally Posted by black05stxjt i vote qa1....but i have strange adjustable's on my car and they seem to work well and for the money!

What makes you vote QA1 over the Strange Adjustables then? Just curious.


Thanks for all the responses guys.

[HEAVYGT]

+1 for the QA1's Jake...but I'm partial!!!

[forensicsteve]

Have you guys ever run into any problems with the rears? If your care isn't breakin' them I know mine won't.

Do you mean the rearend? It's a Currie 9 inch with 3:50 gears. So far so good...but nothing is unbreakable...lol. One of the most useful mods purchased was an open trailer. We've used it twice. Once for a $15 turbo piping clip and split oil pump two weeks ago. 05mustangKB and Freaknazty have also used it. Whoever needs it takes it.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by Towelly I love your car and Lance can drive!!! I've been watching your progress and all I have to say is, you guys have done a awesome job with that car. Have you guys ever run into any problems with the rears? If your care isn't breakin' them I know mine won't. Your not the first person I've heard this from. Although, I wonder if they are as benificial at the strip as they are at the road coarse/auto-x events? I understand bilstien makes some of the greatest shocks but I don't know if they are right with my application. Did you notice an improvment at the strip with the bilstiens over othe D-specs? Or have you just had bilstiens?

Never ran it at the strip with anything but bilsteins.

If i were seting my car up for the strip I wouldnt be running bilstiens. Nor would i be running stock rims, or lowering springs. I would be looking at the setups that these other guys are telling you.

By the way your OP says for the rear? are you thinking about just getting adjustables for the rear? I dont think that will do much for you, you need them up front as well. total setup is key. i watched two guys with adjustable shocks this year spend the entire summer just trying to get back to where they started before the adjustable shocks.

I have three priorities with my car. This is asside from the obvious, power and sound which reign supreme.

When i mod, I consider how with this modification will affect these issues in order of importance.

1, drivability, 2, handling/cornering 3, drag strip.

You can see that the drag strip ranks a distant 3 to me. For one becuase this is a street car.

I spend as much time at the strip running on street tires as the dr's. espeically at the end of the year. And on saturday nights, it pays off, i walk guys light to light that on a drag strip are .5 second faster then me.

When i say bilsteins over d specs. Its becuase for a OEM replacement shock, it cant be beat. The ride quality of my car improved, it was smoother, handled bumps better and took turns better, less nose dive, less roll, better everything without me having to adjust anything. So if you look at my goals then you see why i like the bilsteins. I dont think the bilsteins hurt me at the strip. I doubt they help. i think the springs i have on the car hurt me.

But it sounds like you are more of a 1/4 mile guy. You need to listen to what those guys tell you.

[black05stxjt]

i said the qa1's because thats what u had listed....i love my stranges shock and for $140 a pair from jegs you cant beat the performance.

[JakeM]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt Never ran it at the strip with anything but bilsteins. If i were seting my car up for the strip I wouldnt be running bilstiens. Nor would i be running stock rims, or lowering springs. I would be looking at the setups that these other guys are telling you. By the way your OP says for the rear? are you thinking about just getting adjustables for the rear? I dont think that will do much for you, you need them up front as well. total setup is key. i watched two guys with adjustable shocks this year spend the entire summer just trying to get back to where they started before the adjustable shocks. I have three priorities with my car. This is asside from the obvious, power and sound which reign supreme. When i mod, I consider how with this modification will affect these issues in order of importance. 1, drivability, 2, handling/cornering 3, drag strip. You can see that the drag strip ranks a distant 3 to me. For one becuase this is a street car. I spend as much time at the strip running on street tires as the dr's. espeically at the end of the year. And on saturday nights, it pays off, i walk guys light to light that on a drag strip are .5 second faster then me. When i say bilsteins over d specs. Its becuase for a OEM replacement shock, it cant be beat. The ride quality of my car improved, it was smoother, handled bumps better and took turns better, less nose dive, less roll, better everything without me having to adjust anything. So if you look at my goals then you see why i like the bilsteins. I dont think the bilsteins hurt me at the strip. I doubt they help. i think the springs i have on the car hurt me. But it sounds like you are more of a 1/4 mile guy. You need to listen to what those guys tell you.

Basically what I'm trying to get at is, do I want D-Spec's all the way around or would it be worth it to have QA1's in the back instead? I want my car to be a decent daily driver with a moderate amount of track days. I want it to be a street car first and a race car last. At least of the time being. I would love to do more road coarse racing but I would be traveling at the very least 2 and a half hours to the nearest road coarse (American Autobahn, near Chicago) then another 2 and a half back. I don't feel safe doing that without a trailer. The dragstrip on the other hand is less than 45 minutes away and most of my friends have trailers so if I run into trouble, help is only a cell phone call away.

So basically, should I run D-specs at all four corners or should I put QA1's in the back because they are more drag specific? Or should I go with QA1's all the way around?

Also, I do they have anything besides a coil over for the front?

Thanks again guys.

[07stanggt]

Thats was what i was saying. Im my opinion, its not worth anything to just get adjustables in the back. just turning the shocks in the back to soft isnt going to give you weight transfer, it actually could make wheel hop worse or spin as the suspension doesn want to stay planted.

So to me its adjusables all the way around. But again the drag racers can tell you that i just wanted to clarify on that part.

[JakeM]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt Thats was what i was saying. Im my opinion, its not worth anything to just get adjustables in the back. just turning the shocks in the back to soft isnt going to give you weight transfer, it actually could make wheel hop worse or spin as the suspension doesn want to stay planted. So to me its adjusables all the way around. But again the drag racers can tell you that i just wanted to clarify on that part.

Right, I would have adjustables all the way around either way, D-Specs in the front and QA1's in the rear. I'm just wondering if I should go D-Specs all the way around or D-Specs in the front and QA1's in the rear! LoL

[07stanggt]

LOL. Im sorry. duh.

Oh i dont know have you priced out qa1s? I did but its been a while, i know the setup i wanted front and back was some big money.