E force or Saleen??

NastyStang113 · October 23rd, 2009, 01:17 PM

I'm thinking he meant post 27.

Mickey · October 23rd, 2009, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by kenneth

But everyone seems to forget Mickeys blower is more effecient than any blower ever put on a car because it was built by GOD and OBAMA.

Please refrain from ever mentioning Obama and my name in the same post...thank you sir

HOLLYWD69 · October 23rd, 2009, 03:12 PM

I like the saleen, I think it is the best looking SC out there. Thats what I would have installed if the car I bought diidn't already have a whipple. Unless you are building 700 hp car the differences in the two is not that big. Yea the edelbrock it a little more efficent but its not that big of a deal on a 500hp street car. Just my opinion.

2006GTARPD3 · October 23rd, 2009, 03:43 PM

Procharger FTW.

Curt@BMCPerformance · October 23rd, 2009, 04:31 PM

E-Force gets my vote.

menace07 · October 23rd, 2009, 10:49 PM

Damn...shoulda posted a poll. What are the boost limitations of each, while still being "efficient?"

NastyStang113 · October 23rd, 2009, 11:03 PM

I think it's fair to say that the Saleen can run around 16-17 lbs. The TVS can't run too much more, maybe 1 or 2 lbs more. Not anything notable, IMO.

Mickey · October 24th, 2009, 12:06 AM

I think the Saleen stops being efficient past 15, maybe 16psi...they have been spun up to 18psi but most likely overspun..

06VistaGT · October 24th, 2009, 02:17 AM

Yeah, I think Brenspeed told me the saleens are good up to 15psi back when I was shopping for a blower. I'd think the TVS would be at least 2 or 3 psi more. At least.

NastyStang113 · October 24th, 2009, 03:24 AM

Both of them hit a 'wall' around around 16-18 lbs.

06VistaGT · October 24th, 2009, 11:48 AM

I thought the TVS would have at least a limit similar to a KB. I've seen KB guys running 18-20psi.

Anthony05GT · October 24th, 2009, 12:59 PM

''Dick dumpster''?

HBK_2007 · October 24th, 2009, 02:22 PM

whats kb running for thier rotor design? it isnt an eaton is it?

DiMora · October 24th, 2009, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by 06VistaGT

I thought the TVS would have at least a limit similar to a KB. I've seen KB guys running 18-20psi.

Originally Posted by HBK_2007

whats kb running for thier rotor design? it isnt an eaton is it?

The TVS is a roots type blower. It is an advanced design...with four lobe rotors and a 160 degree twist.

KB uses a twin-screw design.

You can google the main differences between the two.

Once you hit about 18,19,20 PSI on the TVS it starts generating a lot of heat without a really good return on power...so like Nasty says, you could say you are hitting a wall with it.

On the KB blower, it is still pretty efficient at that boost level, and in fact you can spin it into the low 20 PSI range and still not make too much heat. Thus, if you need more than 18-20 PSI it is best to purchase a twin-screw ala Whipple or KB (assuming you don't want centris or turbos)

Mickey · October 24th, 2009, 04:41 PM

IMO, if youre gonna run over 18-20psi, you should go turbo or centri

06VistaGT · October 24th, 2009, 05:38 PM

the Saleen blower is a twinscrew too but its a smaller one then KB or whipple. I was just kinda surprised that the TVS blowers aren't as good at higher psi because I thought they were bigger blowers in general.

Anthony05GT · October 24th, 2009, 06:40 PM

I thought the saleen blower was a 2.3 liter and uses a Whipple compressor.

06VistaGT · October 24th, 2009, 06:58 PM

I thought it was only a 2.1. Huh, not sure now.

Mickey · October 24th, 2009, 10:45 PM

saleen is 2.3..same as whipple

06RedfireGT · October 24th, 2009, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey

IMO, if youre gonna run over 18-20psi, you should go turbo or centri

Agreed.

October 23rd, 2009, 01:17 PM	#41
NastyStang113 MM Fanatic 2008 Mustang GT 11.87@119 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,726	I'm thinking he meant post 27. __________________ VMP Tuning tuned Roush TVS - 524 rwhp 501 rwtq \| Under Construction \|

October 23rd, 2009, 03:12 PM	#43
HOLLYWD69 Regular 07 GT/CS 12.82 @115.6 mph Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Walker, La. Posts: 239	I like the saleen, I think it is the best looking SC out there. Thats what I would have installed if the car I bought diidn't already have a whipple. Unless you are building 700 hp car the differences in the two is not that big. Yea the edelbrock it a little more efficent but its not that big of a deal on a 500hp street car. Just my opinion. __________________ 07 GT/CS, FRPP GTA exhaust, FRPP handling package, FRPP whipple SC, Hurst shifter, Roush Gauge Pod, A/F gauge, Boost gauge, J&M LCA and relocation brackets.

October 23rd, 2009, 04:31 PM	#45
Curt@BMCPerformance Regular 2005 Mustang GT Stock-13.420 @103.42 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 82	E-Force gets my vote. __________________ Curt \| BMC Performance 2005 Mustang GT BMC Performance Website

October 23rd, 2009, 10:49 PM	#46
menace07 Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 13.7 @ 105 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 683	Damn...shoulda posted a poll. What are the boost limitations of each, while still being "efficient?" __________________ black 07 GT, jlt2 cai, sct2 brenspeed 93 octane tune, UDP's, spydershaft, triax, magnaflow catted x, steeda axleback, bad ass steeda suspension STEEDA SUSPENSION CREW FOUNDER

October 23rd, 2009, 11:03 PM	#47
NastyStang113 MM Fanatic 2008 Mustang GT 11.87@119 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,726	I think it's fair to say that the Saleen can run around 16-17 lbs. The TVS can't run too much more, maybe 1 or 2 lbs more. Not anything notable, IMO. __________________ VMP Tuning tuned Roush TVS - 524 rwhp 501 rwtq \| Under Construction \|

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October 24th, 2009, 12:06 AM	#48
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,843	I think the Saleen stops being efficient past 15, maybe 16psi...they have been spun up to 18psi but most likely overspun.. __________________ 488rwhp @ 6.9psi

October 24th, 2009, 02:17 AM	#49
06VistaGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,815	Yeah, I think Brenspeed told me the saleens are good up to 15psi back when I was shopping for a blower. I'd think the TVS would be at least 2 or 3 psi more. At least. __________________ FastlaneMotorsports http://fastlanemotorsports.us/UCustD...?customerid=77 Dyno vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6PDbkL5DXk

October 24th, 2009, 03:24 AM	#50
NastyStang113 MM Fanatic 2008 Mustang GT 11.87@119 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,726	Both of them hit a 'wall' around around 16-18 lbs. __________________ VMP Tuning tuned Roush TVS - 524 rwhp 501 rwtq \| Under Construction \|

October 24th, 2009, 11:48 AM	#51
06VistaGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,815	I thought the TVS would have at least a limit similar to a KB. I've seen KB guys running 18-20psi. __________________ FastlaneMotorsports http://fastlanemotorsports.us/UCustD...?customerid=77 Dyno vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6PDbkL5DXk

October 24th, 2009, 12:59 PM	#52
Anthony05GT Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 583	''Dick dumpster''? __________________ '05 GT, Whipple, JBA, Zoomers, Centerforce, Metco, J&M, JPC, MGW, FRPP, BBR stage 2 billet cams, McLeod, Diablosport, LFP, Autometer, CDC, tuned by Kevin MacDonald NEED A TIMING CHAIN WEDGE? PM ME

October 24th, 2009, 02:22 PM	#53
HBK_2007 Genibus Nitito Canus 1996 Mustang GT next year Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,166	whats kb running for thier rotor design? it isnt an eaton is it? __________________ Red 1996 GT: JLT RAI, Steeda Underdrive pullies, Stewart Waterpump; nothing to brag about Black 2009 45th aniverary edition GT 5 speed: K&N CAI, BBK Twin 62mm Throttle Body, BBK Underdrive Pullies, some type of exhaust, "leveling kit"

October 24th, 2009, 04:41 PM	#55
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,843	IMO, if youre gonna run over 18-20psi, you should go turbo or centri __________________ 488rwhp @ 6.9psi

October 24th, 2009, 05:38 PM	#56
06VistaGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,815	the Saleen blower is a twinscrew too but its a smaller one then KB or whipple. I was just kinda surprised that the TVS blowers aren't as good at higher psi because I thought they were bigger blowers in general. __________________ FastlaneMotorsports http://fastlanemotorsports.us/UCustD...?customerid=77 Dyno vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6PDbkL5DXk

October 24th, 2009, 06:40 PM	#57
Anthony05GT Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 583	I thought the saleen blower was a 2.3 liter and uses a Whipple compressor. __________________ '05 GT, Whipple, JBA, Zoomers, Centerforce, Metco, J&M, JPC, MGW, FRPP, BBR stage 2 billet cams, McLeod, Diablosport, LFP, Autometer, CDC, tuned by Kevin MacDonald NEED A TIMING CHAIN WEDGE? PM ME

October 24th, 2009, 06:58 PM	#58
06VistaGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,815	I thought it was only a 2.1. Huh, not sure now. __________________ FastlaneMotorsports http://fastlanemotorsports.us/UCustD...?customerid=77 Dyno vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6PDbkL5DXk

October 24th, 2009, 10:45 PM	#59
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,843	saleen is 2.3..same as whipple __________________ 488rwhp @ 6.9psi

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