CHE Stabilizer bracket or MGW Shifter upgrade

ethrjock · November 3rd, 2009, 12:01 AM

Looking for some advice from others that might have had similar issues shifting the 5sp in our cars.

I have missed the 3-4 shift a few times under heavy laod. It feels as though there is a barrier between 3-4 and I cannot move the shifter into 4th. I have read some other posts where it happens a lot while drag racing or under heavy stress high rpm situations.

Some folks run a che engineering k member brace View the V8 K-Member Brace with Engine Torque Limiters<br>Part # CHE7LA at http://www.cheperformance.com

and I see where some run the MGW shifter Mustang Shift Handle

If anyone on this forum has some feedback to share I would appreciate it. I currently have a hurst shifter that is very notcy and with the drag racing setup I am running smooth quick shifts are more important than looks at this time in the game

Thanks

NastyStang113 · November 3rd, 2009, 12:20 AM

MGW

DRock · November 3rd, 2009, 12:34 AM

Is doing both not an option?

qwik48r · November 3rd, 2009, 01:41 AM

i'd say he asked because he's like all us workin fuckers... he's broke lol

MGW...

DRock · November 3rd, 2009, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by qwik48r

i'd say he asked because he's like all us workin fuckers... he's broke lol

MGW...

True that! Yea get the MGW first

ethrjock · November 3rd, 2009, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by qwik48r

i'd say he asked because he's like all us workin fuckers... he's broke lol

MGW...

right on. I was thinking that if the CHE bar resolved my problem I would not have to spend the cash for another shifter. CHE is like $169 and MGW is $299 (anyone seen them discounted anywhere?)

I prob will go with the MGW first and sell the Hurst for the funds to pay for the CHE bracket later. Souns like a plan.

Anything to keep from missing the 3-4 shift again.

NastyStang113 · November 3rd, 2009, 11:09 AM

By the way, I had the CHE K Member Brace (Rod Ends) on my car and ended up taking it off because it started making way more noise, washers got continually bent, and it would never stay adjusted and just cause worse shifting because it was binding up.

Anthony05GT · November 3rd, 2009, 09:51 PM

Go MGW and you really should have some poly motor mounts with that Paxton too if you don't already.

EfylSetaf · November 4th, 2009, 12:14 AM

MGW and BMR K-Member with the poly mounts. Which is worthless advice from me since I have neither, but have the CHE-Torque limiters and love them.

Good luck and post pics and tech advice and feedback when you get what you get and get it installed!

ethrjock · November 4th, 2009, 01:08 AM

Pics/tech advice forthcoming as mods go in. Should I be hesitant posting up tech notes when a lot of others have already done the same or post away to keep the forums "fresh"..

Ordered the MGW shifter to start with. I am on my 3rd or 4th wave of MODs now so I need to slow down.

This month's list of Mods going in or done.

* gt500 pump-on workbench install begins this weekend
* shelby 2 5/8" tripple gauge cluster (boost, fuel and oil) should receive gauge pod tomorrow
* removing sway bar (tough since air/air pipes wrap around it)
* welded in BMR LCA brackets - DONE ;-)
* adjusted pinion angle
* New TUNE at injected engineering schedule for Nov 13, 09

getting ready for a club track meet where a GTO Procharged friend called me out. Gotta show him who is the boss ya know...

EfylSetaf · November 4th, 2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by ethrjock

Pics/tech advice forthcoming as mods go in. Should I be hesitant posting up tech notes when a lot of others have already done the same or post away to keep the forums "fresh"..

Just don't jump on with pics of parts you haven't installed yet, waiving your arms enthusiastically on Christmas morning or something.

Detailed write-ups are good, pictures of tricky installation points are even better and while shifters have been done to death, any additional installation or first hand qualitative technical feedback (more than just: it feels good!) is a good thing.

I don't think anyone has ever begrudged a forum member for posting an install writeup, unless of course it's done wrong or something.

Have fun with the upgrades!

Anthony05GT · November 4th, 2009, 06:36 PM

Good luck with that Procharged GTO. What's he been doing at the track? He got tires too? If you have Mickeys let her rev over 4500 on the launch.

DiMora · November 5th, 2009, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by ethrjock

Pics/tech advice forthcoming as mods go in. Should I be hesitant posting up tech notes when a lot of others have already done the same or post away to keep the forums "fresh"..

Ordered the MGW shifter to start with. I am on my 3rd or 4th wave of MODs now so I need to slow down.

This month's list of Mods going in or done.

* gt500 pump-on workbench install begins this weekend
* shelby 2 5/8" tripple gauge cluster (boost, fuel and oil) should receive gauge pod tomorrow
* removing sway bar (tough since air/air pipes wrap around it)
* welded in BMR LCA brackets - DONE ;-)
* adjusted pinion angle
* New TUNE at injected engineering schedule for Nov 13, 09

getting ready for a club track meet where a GTO Procharged friend called me out. Gotta show him who is the boss ya know...

Nice! Aric and Ryan will tighten you up. Sounds sick. You gotta take down that Goat!

ethrjock · November 5th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anthony05GT

Good luck with that Procharged GTO. What's he been doing at the track? He got tires too? If you have Mickeys let her rev over 4500 on the launch.

The only time he has been at the track with it he pulled a 12.7 on street tires. Now he has MT DRs but they are 18" so not much sidewall. I expect him to NOT hook but he will be strolling on the big end no doubt.

He is a AUTO, Procharged and MTs. He has been racing for a while so he has the track time over me. We went to highschool together and recently caught up afte 20 years I used to roll with a 65 mustang and he had a plymouth valiant. We joked him a lot but he took it well. He's prob thinking...time for some payback.

We shall see.

Wonder what the procharged GTO is capable of. I suspect low 11s.

07 STROKER · November 5th, 2009, 11:22 PM

i had lockout issues with my stocker, i installed the che member with limiters as well as a MGW, and I am still being locked out of thrird and grinding second at times....alltough i believe i have a issue with my spec 3 clutch but noone can help mw with diagnosis. oh and i still had lockout and grinding issues with the stock clutch instaled with the mgw and limiters....but it cant hurt to throw them in there

ethrjock · November 5th, 2009, 11:33 PM

Man 07 stroker. That's not promising. I am only seeing some lockout between 3-4.

The MGW arrived today. I am impressed with the engineering that went into that shifter. Can't wait to get it in this weekend.

Will update in a week or so after I had a chance to install and write up a tech article.

EfylSetaf · November 6th, 2009, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by 07 STROKER

i had lockout issues with my stocker, i installed the che member with limiters as well as a MGW, and I am still being locked out of thrird and grinding second at times....alltough i believe i have a issue with my spec 3 clutch but noone can help mw with diagnosis. oh and i still had lockout and grinding issues with the stock clutch instaled with the mgw and limiters....but it cant hurt to throw them in there

Wait, I thought you were just being locked out of third? If you're grinding, did you ever suspect the transmission for problems?

November 3rd, 2009, 12:01 AM	#1
ethrjock Newbie 2006 11.82@118 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 32	CHE Stabilizer bracket or MGW Shifter upgrade Looking for some advice from others that might have had similar issues shifting the 5sp in our cars. I have missed the 3-4 shift a few times under heavy laod. It feels as though there is a barrier between 3-4 and I cannot move the shifter into 4th. I have read some other posts where it happens a lot while drag racing or under heavy stress high rpm situations. Some folks run a che engineering k member brace View the V8 K-Member Brace with Engine Torque Limiters<br>Part # CHE7LA at http://www.cheperformance.com and I see where some run the MGW shifter Mustang Shift Handle If anyone on this forum has some feedback to share I would appreciate it. I currently have a hurst shifter that is very notcy and with the drag racing setup I am running smooth quick shifts are more important than looks at this time in the game Thanks __________________ 06 Paxton HO, 60lb Inj, GT500 pump, 3.16 pulley, BMR LCA Panard Drop Bkt, FRPP spgs, Basssani exhaust, Off X, SLP LLck, 4.10 gear, Weld RT 15x10 rear, 4" ft-MT 28.1 x 12" rear (PB 11.82:1.62 60 ft on 10-25-09 at SDR) Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #4

November 3rd, 2009, 12:20 AM	#2
NastyStang113 MM Fanatic 2008 Mustang GT 11.87@119 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,726	MGW __________________ VMP Tuning tuned Roush TVS - 524 rwhp 501 rwtq \| Under Construction \|

November 3rd, 2009, 12:34 AM	#3
DRock Regular 2009 Mustang GT/CS N/A Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 345	Is doing both not an option? __________________ '09 GT/CS SHOW: GT500 Spoiler, Black Turn Signals, 5k Headlight & Fog HID's GO:Flowmaster 40's, BMR Poly/Rod LCA's

November 3rd, 2009, 01:41 AM	#4
qwik48r MM Fanatic 2002 SS incredibly slow Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,621	i'd say he asked because he's like all us workin fuckers... he's broke lol MGW... __________________ turbocharged 2002 SS. 641rwhp @ 6700, pump gas. qwik's build

November 3rd, 2009, 11:09 AM	#7
NastyStang113 MM Fanatic 2008 Mustang GT 11.87@119 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,726	By the way, I had the CHE K Member Brace (Rod Ends) on my car and ended up taking it off because it started making way more noise, washers got continually bent, and it would never stay adjusted and just cause worse shifting because it was binding up. __________________ VMP Tuning tuned Roush TVS - 524 rwhp 501 rwtq \| Under Construction \|

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November 3rd, 2009, 09:51 PM	#8
Anthony05GT Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 583	Go MGW and you really should have some poly motor mounts with that Paxton too if you don't already. __________________ '05 GT, Whipple, JBA, Zoomers, Centerforce, Metco, J&M, JPC, MGW, FRPP, BBR stage 2 billet cams, McLeod, Diablosport, LFP, Autometer, CDC, tuned by Kevin MacDonald NEED A TIMING CHAIN WEDGE? PM ME

November 4th, 2009, 12:14 AM	#9
EfylSetaf Hardcore Enthusiast 2008 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West [of] Chicago Posts: 1,923	MGW and BMR K-Member with the poly mounts. Which is worthless advice from me since I have neither, but have the CHE-Torque limiters and love them. Good luck and post pics and tech advice and feedback when you get what you get and get it installed! __________________ Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.

November 4th, 2009, 01:08 AM	#10
ethrjock Newbie 2006 11.82@118 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 32	Pics/tech advice forthcoming as mods go in. Should I be hesitant posting up tech notes when a lot of others have already done the same or post away to keep the forums "fresh".. Ordered the MGW shifter to start with. I am on my 3rd or 4th wave of MODs now so I need to slow down. This month's list of Mods going in or done. * gt500 pump-on workbench install begins this weekend * shelby 2 5/8" tripple gauge cluster (boost, fuel and oil) should receive gauge pod tomorrow * removing sway bar (tough since air/air pipes wrap around it) * welded in BMR LCA brackets - DONE ;-) * adjusted pinion angle * New TUNE at injected engineering schedule for Nov 13, 09 getting ready for a club track meet where a GTO Procharged friend called me out. Gotta show him who is the boss ya know... __________________ 06 Paxton HO, 60lb Inj, GT500 pump, 3.16 pulley, BMR LCA Panard Drop Bkt, FRPP spgs, Basssani exhaust, Off X, SLP LLck, 4.10 gear, Weld RT 15x10 rear, 4" ft-MT 28.1 x 12" rear (PB 11.82:1.62 60 ft on 10-25-09 at SDR) Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #4 Last edited by ethrjock : November 4th, 2009 at 01:10 AM. Reason: added info

November 4th, 2009, 06:36 PM	#12
Anthony05GT Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 583	Good luck with that Procharged GTO. What's he been doing at the track? He got tires too? If you have Mickeys let her rev over 4500 on the launch. __________________ '05 GT, Whipple, JBA, Zoomers, Centerforce, Metco, J&M, JPC, MGW, FRPP, BBR stage 2 billet cams, McLeod, Diablosport, LFP, Autometer, CDC, tuned by Kevin MacDonald NEED A TIMING CHAIN WEDGE? PM ME

November 5th, 2009, 11:22 PM	#15
07 STROKER MM's resident Juice head 07 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,482	i had lockout issues with my stocker, i installed the che member with limiters as well as a MGW, and I am still being locked out of thrird and grinding second at times....alltough i believe i have a issue with my spec 3 clutch but noone can help mw with diagnosis. oh and i still had lockout and grinding issues with the stock clutch instaled with the mgw and limiters....but it cant hurt to throw them in there __________________ The MGW short throw shifter Its not just a shifter...It's a lifestyle!

November 5th, 2009, 11:33 PM	#16
ethrjock Newbie 2006 11.82@118 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 32	Man 07 stroker. That's not promising. I am only seeing some lockout between 3-4. The MGW arrived today. I am impressed with the engineering that went into that shifter. Can't wait to get it in this weekend. Will update in a week or so after I had a chance to install and write up a tech article. __________________ 06 Paxton HO, 60lb Inj, GT500 pump, 3.16 pulley, BMR LCA Panard Drop Bkt, FRPP spgs, Basssani exhaust, Off X, SLP LLck, 4.10 gear, Weld RT 15x10 rear, 4" ft-MT 28.1 x 12" rear (PB 11.82:1.62 60 ft on 10-25-09 at SDR) Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #4

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