[07 procharger]

This might get moved to poweradders...not sure but anyway. Should i run a wideband with my nitrous or is it a little overkill? anyone running nitrous without a wideband? comments thoughts? thanks guys.

[GTsetGO]

i have nitrous and run a narrowband right now, but will be stepping up to the wideband when the funds roll in.

[07 procharger]

ya 350.00 for a wideband WTF?. dunno if its worth it

[GTsetGO]

yeah it is. narrowbands are just a pretty light show.

[qwik48r]

i would... dont want to go lean sprayin... things like to go POP.

[leebunnyz]

Do It

[07 procharger]

ya but i got so much safety junk.....FPSS window switch WOT switch....plus i know im jetted for my fuel pressure plus a nitrous tune....

[07 procharger]

Bacardi and cola....DO IT!

[leebunnyz]

Originally Posted by 07 procharger Bacardi and cola....DO IT!

noooo...nike, Just do it!

[07 procharger]

Ah what the christ...ill order it

[GTsetGO]

which one are you getting?

[leebunnyz]

i bet he's getting the cobalt!

[Emay]

By the time you realize your lean on the wideband the damage will have been done. If your running the spray correctly, you've got a shut off in for fuel pressure fall off. That said it's really the only thing that can go wrong, once the car is tuned, it's tuned. It doesn't fluctuate, so the only way your going to blow anything up is via what your already protected for, low fuel pressure.

Some poeple want all these gauges in their car, but there's no chance in hell you can watch everything. Heck most people have gauges and watch none of them. They are what one would call conversation pieces.

I personally am all over 4 gauges - fuel pressure, oil pressure, water temp, and boost. With A/F ratio set in the tune, it's a waste for me to run a wide band, it will not move unless you have a failure, and by the time you get out of it due to a reading on the wideband, the damage will have been done.. You may be able to cause less damage, but no less damage than someone paying attention to their regular gauges.

This is one of those deals where they are key for tuning, and then you can basically put it away. Better off data logging a pull from a hand held or laptop anyway..

[mustangrebuilder]

Originally Posted by GTsetGO yeah it is. narrowbands are just a pretty light show.

+1 i have a narrow band and thats all it is...wideband FTW!

[qwik48r]

Originally Posted by Emay By the time you realize your lean on the wideband the damage will have been done. If your running the spray correctly, you've got a shut off in for fuel pressure fall off. That said it's really the only thing that can go wrong, once the car is tuned, it's tuned. It doesn't fluctuate, so the only way your going to blow anything up is via what your already protected for, low fuel pressure. Some poeple want all these gauges in their car, but there's no chance in hell you can watch everything. Heck most people have gauges and watch none of them. They are what one would call conversation pieces. I personally am all over 4 gauges - fuel pressure, oil pressure, water temp, and boost. With A/F ratio set in the tune, it's a waste for me to run a wide band, it will not move unless you have a failure, and by the time you get out of it due to a reading on the wideband, the damage will have been done.. You may be able to cause less damage, but no less damage than someone paying attention to their regular gauges. This is one of those deals where they are key for tuning, and then you can basically put it away. Better off data logging a pull from a hand held or laptop anyway..

i mean using a wideband as a tuning tool not a safety precaution. when i use a wideband, i'm looking for a baseline. and to that point i add/decrease fuel/timing.

and given what you've said about everyones obsession with guages.. ill second that.. i believe you need nothing more than a ACCURATE tach, fuel press, oil press, temp, and trans temp. obviously boost and perhaps egt for fi guys.

[Grabber523]

I personally feel better running a wideband, it clued me in to a vaccuum leak that was throwing it a little lean under part throttle load. To each their own, I agree some guys will only use them because they look cool, but I have found mine quite useful.

[1FastFox]

I will admit I am one of those guage queens, I have autmeter c2 proshift, air/fuel, & boost on my pillar ( and they look damn good with the top down ). And working on getting fuel pressure wired into the cupholder ( if I ever get around to order the SOS cupholder pod... ). I like the way the guages look, but I have them there for the right reasons... I agree with Emay on the A/F guage to an extent. I do believe there are times where they come in handy ( IE, on my 91 when I kept blowing hoses off at WOT ) it didnt create a dangerously lean situation but it definitally leaned it out a little bit.

[Grabber523]

Yeah, I wasn't lean to the point of detonation, but the A/F did start to creep into the 16s at approx. 60-80% WOT, which got me under the hood where I needed to be to find and fix the problem.

[07 procharger]

well i just made some pulls with the nitrous...without the wideband. 75 shot went great...then i jetted to 100...first two pulls were good then on the third it fell on its face at 4000 rpm. then the engine light came on...went to the tuner and found PO307 - cylinder 7 misfire...the bottle was at 700 psi...did i overload the fuel from too low pressure in the bottle?

[HMUSN]

stock plugs?