add/remove timing for 104 octane?

Modern_Muscle · April 18th, 2008, 11:26 PM

how much can I advance or remove the timing, if I am running 104 octane (8 gal 93 + 32oz Torco Mach Accelerator)???

qwik48r · April 18th, 2008, 11:38 PM

advanved i'm ballparking... steve would know better than me, 12*?

06RedfireGT · April 18th, 2008, 11:55 PM

Those octane boosters suck. Have a 104 octane tune made and use that when you actually use 104 octane.

qwik48r · April 19th, 2008, 12:12 AM

yea i was gonna say that but i didnt want to being a dick... i feel like a nice guy today friday and all

06GTMustang89 · April 19th, 2008, 12:28 AM

the biggest gimmick in the auto business besides the "tornado" are octane boosters...they do absolutely nothing waste of money IMO sorry bro...the truth sucks sometimes

Bandit · April 19th, 2008, 12:38 AM

I thought torco was one of the few "true" octane boosters?

qwik48r · April 19th, 2008, 12:49 AM

there is no special formula that make regular 93 or what have you into "race gas"... you can retard the octane.. but its not removing the other impurities

Modern_Muscle · April 19th, 2008, 04:40 AM

funny thing, this would be the first time I have heard of anyone calling torco a cheap octane booster.
considering the stuff is over $20 a can (32oz) and $200 (5 gal drum)
and LOTS swear to it race-wise...idk

it makes a diff, 16 oz in a half tank of 93 is 97 octane, and 32oz in 8 gal is 104 oct...supposedly.

also, 100 octane is like $10 a gallon, and torco is $40 a gallon. any questions?

06RedfireGT · April 19th, 2008, 11:54 AM

I say just buy 10 gallons of 100 or 104 octane and just use it at the track.

Bandit · April 19th, 2008, 12:50 PM

I would like to hear the answer as well.How much timing can you add based on octane rating?Is there a formula?

Oddball · April 19th, 2008, 02:45 PM

Seems like I remember reading somewhere that you should advance the timing 1 degree per octane increase. So from 93 to 104 octane, you'd advance 11 degrees. I may be way off base, but I think that's what I remember reading. Have no idea where I read it though.

Emay · April 20th, 2008, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by Modern_Muscle

funny thing, this would be the first time I have heard of anyone calling torco a cheap octane booster.
considering the stuff is over $20 a can (32oz) and $200 (5 gal drum)
and LOTS swear to it race-wise...idk

it makes a diff, 16 oz in a half tank of 93 is 97 octane, and 32oz in 8 gal is 104 oct...supposedly.

also, 100 octane is like $10 a gallon, and torco is $40 a gallon. any questions?

100 here is 5.20 a gallon right now.. 10 bucks is outrageous.

Towelly · April 20th, 2008, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Emay

100 here is 5.20 a gallon right now.. 10 bucks is outrageous.

Its the same here. There is a quite a few shells that still carry it around here. Also, octane boosters are crap.

97Cobra · April 20th, 2008, 06:26 AM

^heh n just think just a year ago I was down in TX slaughtering this dude on the hwy! seen him on myspace and turned him loose on MM!

97Cobra · April 20th, 2008, 06:29 AM

my mod list has much grown since then old pal!

clicky on garage!

Modern_Muscle · April 20th, 2008, 02:40 PM

ill still take you.

I was on a JMS tune that I thoguht was great, but ended upsputtering me...

well run em again if youre ever down here, I may have a few tricks up my sleeve soon

Modern_Muscle · April 20th, 2008, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Emay

100 here is 5.20 a gallon right now.. 10 bucks is outrageous.

eh, I was just ballparking.

I think 114 is 7 something.

97Cobra · April 21st, 2008, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Modern_Muscle

ill still take you.

I was on a JMS tune that I thoguht was great, but ended upsputtering me...

well run em again if youre ever down here, I may have a few tricks up my sleeve soon

Excuses excuses....

Drive down to Douglas WY may 17! 1st test n tune and me n my step dad are going to run! IM 99.99% positive my dad is going to beat me but then once he gets his 12sumthin they wount let him run intill he gets a roll cage!

April 18th, 2008, 11:26 PM	#1
Modern_Muscle Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,354	add/remove timing for 104 octane? how much can I advance or remove the timing, if I am running 104 octane (8 gal 93 + 32oz Torco Mach Accelerator)??? __________________ 1998 Trans Am WS6. (Anti Venom) Forged 347, stage 3 T56, and a 76mm Turbo... 659rwhp @ 13.5# ~725rwhp @ 15.5# Meth, C16, and 20psi coming soon 03 Z71 (H/C/I/E/T)...sold 2005 GT, Full Bolt-Ons...12's... GONE

April 18th, 2008, 11:38 PM	#2
qwik48r MM Fanatic 2002 SS incredibly slow Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,620	advanved i'm ballparking... steve would know better than me, 12*? __________________ turbocharged 2002 SS. 641rwhp @ 6700, pump gas. qwik's build

April 19th, 2008, 12:12 AM	#4
qwik48r MM Fanatic 2002 SS incredibly slow Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,620	yea i was gonna say that but i didnt want to being a dick... i feel like a nice guy today friday and all __________________ turbocharged 2002 SS. 641rwhp @ 6700, pump gas. qwik's build

April 19th, 2008, 12:28 AM	#5
06GTMustang89 MM Fanatic 2006 Mustang GT 5spd 12.85 @ 107 (with my TR3650 shot to hell) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,173	the biggest gimmick in the auto business besides the "tornado" are octane boosters...they do absolutely nothing waste of money IMO sorry bro...the truth sucks sometimes __________________ JLT CAI: KOOKS LT's: Comp NSR II's: 4.56's: TR6060: Steeda LCA, UCA: QA1's: Roush rear springs...see garage for more.

April 19th, 2008, 12:49 AM	#7
qwik48r MM Fanatic 2002 SS incredibly slow Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the woods Posts: 3,620	there is no special formula that make regular 93 or what have you into "race gas"... you can retard the octane.. but its not removing the other impurities __________________ turbocharged 2002 SS. 641rwhp @ 6700, pump gas. qwik's build

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April 19th, 2008, 12:38 AM	#6
Bandit Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: southern ohio Posts: 99	I thought torco was one of the few "true" octane boosters?

April 19th, 2008, 04:40 AM	#8
Modern_Muscle Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,354	funny thing, this would be the first time I have heard of anyone calling torco a cheap octane booster. considering the stuff is over $20 a can (32oz) and $200 (5 gal drum) and LOTS swear to it race-wise...idk it makes a diff, 16 oz in a half tank of 93 is 97 octane, and 32oz in 8 gal is 104 oct...supposedly. also, 100 octane is like $10 a gallon, and torco is $40 a gallon. any questions? __________________ 1998 Trans Am WS6. (Anti Venom) Forged 347, stage 3 T56, and a 76mm Turbo... 659rwhp @ 13.5# ~725rwhp @ 15.5# Meth, C16, and 20psi coming soon 03 Z71 (H/C/I/E/T)...sold 2005 GT, Full Bolt-Ons...12's... GONE Last edited by Modern_Muscle : April 19th, 2008 at 04:45 AM.

April 19th, 2008, 12:50 PM	#10
Bandit Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: southern ohio Posts: 99	I would like to hear the answer as well.How much timing can you add based on octane rating?Is there a formula?

April 19th, 2008, 02:45 PM	#11
Oddball Regular 2008 GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Atlanta suburbs Posts: 138	Seems like I remember reading somewhere that you should advance the timing 1 degree per octane increase. So from 93 to 104 octane, you'd advance 11 degrees. I may be way off base, but I think that's what I remember reading. Have no idea where I read it though. __________________ Hurst Short Throw Shifter K&N CAI FRPP 3.73 rearend 279rwhp/293rwtq - pre tune Brenspeed 93 octane tune 283rwhp/306rwtq - post tune ARH longtubes/catted H-pipe - no new numbers yet

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97Cobra I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1997 Mustang Cobra 1/8 - 8.89@86mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 6,554	^heh n just think just a year ago I was down in TX slaughtering this dude on the hwy! seen him on myspace and turned him loose on MM! __________________ Modifications and pics in my Garage... Reps Appreciated!

April 20th, 2008, 06:29 AM	#15
97Cobra I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1997 Mustang Cobra 1/8 - 8.89@86mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 6,554	my mod list has much grown since then old pal! clicky on garage! __________________ Modifications and pics in my Garage... Reps Appreciated!

April 20th, 2008, 02:40 PM	#16
Modern_Muscle Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,354	ill still take you. I was on a JMS tune that I thoguht was great, but ended upsputtering me... well run em again if youre ever down here, I may have a few tricks up my sleeve soon __________________ 1998 Trans Am WS6. (Anti Venom) Forged 347, stage 3 T56, and a 76mm Turbo... 659rwhp @ 13.5# ~725rwhp @ 15.5# Meth, C16, and 20psi coming soon 03 Z71 (H/C/I/E/T)...sold 2005 GT, Full Bolt-Ons...12's... GONE

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